Upgrade to business - O/CS availability, check-in upgrade

Old Aug 27, 19, 6:28 am
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Question Upgrade to business - O/CS availability, check-in upgrade

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I booked two tickets CDG-JNB (AF990) on 16/09/19. Both tickets are economy (R class). I am Sliver, fellow traveler Explorer. Tickets bought online on French Air France website. I also includes a flight back but CPT-AMS-CDG (so, with KLM).

I'm looking for the different possibilities to upgrade. After reading a lot on FT (including this interesting thread Trying to Understand Upgrade Availability for AF), I still have some questions.
  • When I manage my reservation on AF website, I have the upgrade button, but it says no seats are available for upgrade
  • I asked Flying Blue on Facebook Messenger, same answer
  • I checked Expert Flyer, it says 0O, 9C
After reading the above thread, it says that no O availability on EF doesn't mean that there is no seat upgrade available for Flying Blue members but that KVS can show them, under CS class code. I don't have KVS so I couldn't check.
  • Does it worth to pay for KVS and check if any CS exists?
  • Is it likely that new CS/O seats will appear, knowing the flight is in 3 weeks?
  • Is my understanding correct that CS is a class available for miles upgrade?
  • Is it correct that upgrades proposals from AF are targeted, sent just before the check-in? And/or also during the check-in process?
After reading on FT, my understanding is that the amount of miles for an upgrade isn't as variable as for the award tickets. Then, if someone has an estimation of miles needed for upgrade on CDG-JNB, I'll take it!

Also: I read a lot "DoD upgrades". What does that mean? I couldn't find it on FT glossary.
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Old Aug 27, 19, 6:42 am
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DoD means Day of Departure
I have never heard about this “CS class”. But I am not an expert of KVS.
O inventory may appear at any time to upgrade with miles so I recommend you to check at least on a daily basis.
For paid upgrade at OLCI/DoD , the offers are indeed targeted (and customized price-wise). But, even if you are not targeted, you can ask at the airport at a customer service desk.
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Old Aug 27, 19, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by trilame View Post
Hi,
I booked two tickets CDG-JNB (AF990) on 16/09/19. Both tickets are economy (R class). I am Sliver, fellow traveler Explorer. Tickets bought online on French Air France website. I also includes a flight back but CPT-AMS-CDG (so, with KLM).

I'm looking for the different possibilities to upgrade. After reading a lot on FT (including this interesting thread Trying to Understand Upgrade Availability for AF), I still have some questions.
  • When I manage my reservation on AF website, I have the upgrade button, but it says no seats are available for upgrade
  • I asked Flying Blue on Facebook Messenger, same answer
  • I checked Expert Flyer, it says 0O, 9C
After reading the above thread, it says that no O availability on EF doesn't mean that there is no seat upgrade available for Flying Blue members but that KVS can show them, under CS class code. I don't have KVS so I couldn't check.
  • Does it worth to pay for KVS and check if any CS exists?
  • Is it likely that new CS/O seats will appear, knowing the flight is in 3 weeks?
  • Is my understanding correct that CS is a class available for miles upgrade?
  • Is it correct that upgrades proposals from AF are targeted, sent just before the check-in? And/or also during the check-in process?
After reading on FT, my understanding is that the amount of miles for an upgrade isn't as variable as for the award tickets. Then, if someone has an estimation of miles needed for upgrade on CDG-JNB, I'll take it!

Also: I read a lot "DoD upgrades". What does that mean? I couldn't find it on FT glossary.
To try and answer your questions:
1. Would it make a difference if FB said no seats are available?
2. Not very likely, however if you are trying to upgrade with FB miles this is irrelevant (as also explained in the other thread)
3. See above
4. Yes

DoD is Day of Departure, if there are still seats available they might be available at the check-in counter/lounge/gate.
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Old Aug 27, 19, 7:17 am
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Thanks for your answers.
Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
DoD means Day of Departure
I have never heard about this “CS class”. But I am not an expert of KVS.
O inventory may appear at any time to upgrade with miles so I recommend you to check at least on a daily basis.
For paid upgrade at OLCI/DoD , the offers are indeed targeted (and customized price-wise). But, even if you are not targeted, you can ask at the airport at a customer service desk.
Ok, I will at least check everyday O availability. According this message https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30536151-post55.html from the same thread, Expert Flyer shows only O if partners (DL, AZ ,etc.) see it. Seems that only KVS can give O availability that Flying Blue agents see.

Originally Posted by Ditto View Post
To try and answer your questions:
1. Would it make a difference if FB said no seats are available?
2. Not very likely, however if you are trying to upgrade with FB miles this is irrelevant (as also explained in the other thread)
3. See above
4. Yes

DoD is Day of Departure, if there are still seats available they might be available at the check-in counter/lounge/gate.
Not sure to understand point 2: you mean that it is likely to get upgrades with miles, but not awards?
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