glennhaak

Hi there,

I know about the BA Master Thread about direct turnarounds, but couldn't find one for AF/KL...

Does anyone have experience about doing direct turnarounds in VNO and OSL coming from either CDG or AMS?

irishguy28

It's a while since I've been to OSL, but the last time I was connecting there - not a turnaround though - there's a separate transfer channel where you undergo a security check so it's not exactly a direct turnaround. Keep an eye out for the transfer sign - don't follow the bulk of the passengers all the way to the end of the corridor and downstairs through duty free. Make sure you have your boarding pass in hand.

That said, it shouldn't be a problem if you are first off the plane.

https://avinor.no/en/airport/oslo-ai...nsfer/transfer

glennhaak

Thank you for the extensive reply! Any experience in VNO?

ThePlaneThePlane

joyu12

Actually it depends on what gate you arrive at. If you arrive at the new C/D gates you are funneled straight into the departures area (such as at Schiphol). Even if you arrive at the E gates you should clear the extra security checkpoint rather quickly as it is mostly empty.

offvoice

Reviving this thread - does anyone know if it's possible to do a direct turnaround in Kiev (IEV) ?

Romanianflyer

KLM and AF do not fly to IEV - I assume you mean KBP as the designated Kiev aiport.

I have no experience doing a direct turnaround - but the information you need you can find here.

https://kbp.aero/en/pass/transfer/

You will need to pass security and will have a brief BP check (make sure you did OLCI). From my limited experiences transiting the airport on UIA flights it was all fairly straightforward and quickly but please do not take this as a definite yes to attempt it! (as I always had 2+ hours connections and I really do not remember if those occasions were during busy or less crowded times of the day)

offvoice

Thank you for the information! I crosschecked and it's indeed IEV (with Alitalia, forgot to mention )

Romanianflyer

Ah then IEV it is, indeed!

I have only flown to/from IEV on low-costs (Wizzair) so no experience connecting there. I however doubt it will be better than KBP for it! On the contrary, it might be much worse as I don't think IEV is designed for connecting passengers at all. There are just no airlines serving IEV which offer connecting flights AFAIK. Yes, Wizzair Ukraine has its hub at IEV, but the airline only sells single segments and does not offer connections. I would not be surprised if you would need to go all the way landside first to make your way back airside, unless you can somehow talk an airport employee/border guard into escorting you back airside. Do note, this is not based on any experience I have at IEV and there might well be an easy way to make an airside turnaround. My advice would however be that unless someone can confirm this from experience, I would expect the worst on-ground situation.

NickB

Is a turnaround at BLL on KL straightforward?

carnarvon

I would think so, but having been there only a couple of times, my memory can betray me. So you need to keep asking in order to be sure.

How much time between both flights?

NickB

Reasonably long in itself (45 mins) so I have no qualms if the flight is on time. It is more a case of planning in case of delay. Do KL flight normally dock at a gate and are arrivals and departures mixed or is there a rather more complex route that requires re-clearing security?

Porcepic

I don't remember about a transfer path for connecting passengers at BLL but the airport online FAQ (https://www.bll.dk/en-en/faq) states that: "if you have arrived at Billund Airport and must continue with another flight, follow the arrival line and use the call buttom by the door with the sign "Transfer". Then you will get access to the departure hall."

Should you need to go landside, the fast lane is relatively efficient from what I have experienced for the few times I have been in BLL (it is a dedicated lane and not a by-pass of the queue that throw you to a normal lane) and you should be able nonetheless to do the turnaround on time. I have always seen AF/KL flights parked at gate.

Yreal

VNO shouldnt work, because the KLM flight is a Air baltic code-share

glennhaak

What does it, being a codeshare, have anything to do with if it's possible to do a direct turn-around or not?