Air France/FB says my 317,000+ MR transfer is FRAUD! Help!
Apr 13, 2019, 9:40 pm
#91
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 27
This thread is pretty concerning as I was planning to transfer some MR into my (recently created) FB account before the 25% bonus ends. Should I just avoid this altogether? I’m thinking maybe I will make a few purchases through the shopping portal now to hopefully get some miles in the account that way before I do the transfer? Has anyone ever tried that before?
Apr 15, 2019, 3:57 pm
#93
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: AA 1M
Posts: 31,474
Something odd just happened. I transferred 5K to my AF account from my wife's account and I got a confirmation. But the miles never posted for half an hour and so logged back into Amex and found the transfer got cancelled and points put back into Amex.
I then transferred points from my Amex account and it went through. Just booked a 7.5K award without a problem. Any idea what happened and if I should proceed with the larger 66K booking?
I then transferred points from my Amex account and it went through. Just booked a 7.5K award without a problem. Any idea what happened and if I should proceed with the larger 66K booking?
Apr 15, 2019, 9:03 pm
#94
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,555
I believe that you can only transfer miles to a designated FB account with the same name. You cannot transfer to someone' else FFP.
That is no problem when airlines, like BA, have household accounts, but AF does not.
That is no problem when airlines, like BA, have household accounts, but AF does not.
Apr 18, 2019, 4:48 am
#95
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: BCN
Programs: BA Gold · A3 Gold · DL Gold · VY apologist
Posts: 8,545
Reading this whole saga really brought back some memories from my time having status and flying frequently on KL.
I have some SkyTeam flights coming up and figured I would just credit them to my FB account that's been sitting empty for a few years. Now I remember why I left KL in the first place. These kinds of shenanigans are SOP for them. I'll have to find somewhere new to credit.
I have some SkyTeam flights coming up and figured I would just credit them to my FB account that's been sitting empty for a few years. Now I remember why I left KL in the first place. These kinds of shenanigans are SOP for them. I'll have to find somewhere new to credit.
Apr 18, 2019, 7:18 am
#96
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Posts: 74
Yeah, it's clear there's weird business going on at AirFrance. They hugely wasted my time, energy, and caused me to end up having to book a crappy routing just to get there (in coach versus business class).
Apr 18, 2019, 7:19 am
#97
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Posts: 74
Apr 18, 2019, 8:28 am
#98
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rotterdam, NL
Programs: Flying Blue (AF/KL)
Posts: 4,711
Reading this whole saga really brought back some memories from my time having status and flying frequently on KL.
I have some SkyTeam flights coming up and figured I would just credit them to my FB account that's been sitting empty for a few years. Now I remember why I left KL in the first place. These kinds of shenanigans are SOP for them. I'll have to find somewhere new to credit.
I have some SkyTeam flights coming up and figured I would just credit them to my FB account that's been sitting empty for a few years. Now I remember why I left KL in the first place. These kinds of shenanigans are SOP for them. I'll have to find somewhere new to credit.
Apr 27, 2019, 5:03 am
#99
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Portland OR & Bangkok
Programs: United GS, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 662
Gosh.... I was thinking of transferring some MR to FB to upgrade a KLM TXL-AMS flight but now I'm hesitant. Never flown on KLM/AF before. A/C has 0 miles.
However, it would be upgrading a purchase ticket - that shouldn't trigger a fraud? Is KLM any different from AF?
How many miles would it take to upgrade anyway, and is there a minimum fare class to be eligible for an upgrade?
Thanks!
However, it would be upgrading a purchase ticket - that shouldn't trigger a fraud? Is KLM any different from AF?
How many miles would it take to upgrade anyway, and is there a minimum fare class to be eligible for an upgrade?
Thanks!
Apr 27, 2019, 8:27 am
#100
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Somewhere between BHX and HUY
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Eurobonus Silver, ALL Gold
Posts: 1,674
Is KLM any different from AF? no different
How many miles would it take to upgrade anyway, and is there a minimum fare class to be eligible for an upgrade? af-kl are very opaque and won't tell you before you have a reservation if there are available ones for your flight. The prices greatly vary and are almost always not worth it. Upgrades get more expensive with el cheapo fare codes. Availabilty is very limited.
Thanks!
How many miles would it take to upgrade anyway, and is there a minimum fare class to be eligible for an upgrade? af-kl are very opaque and won't tell you before you have a reservation if there are available ones for your flight. The prices greatly vary and are almost always not worth it. Upgrades get more expensive with el cheapo fare codes. Availabilty is very limited.
Thanks!
May 26, 2021, 12:47 pm
#101
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: Chase, United
Posts: 403
help getting started
I've just made a FB account, and hope to transfer chase miles and buy one round trip J ticket for me to fly from LAX to BER. But now I am concerned about this problem. Can anyone offer any advice about how to do this? Has it gotten better? Is it better on KLM than AF? (Either is fine for my purposes) thanks in advance!
May 27, 2021, 8:27 am
#102
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: LAX/FAO
Posts: 355
I've just made a FB account, and hope to transfer chase miles and buy one round trip J ticket for me to fly from LAX to BER. But now I am concerned about this problem. Can anyone offer any advice about how to do this? Has it gotten better? Is it better on KLM than AF? (Either is fine for my purposes) thanks in advance!
May 30, 2021, 5:56 am
#103
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: JFK, LGA
Programs: AA PRO, BA S
Posts: 185
I've just made a FB account, and hope to transfer chase miles and buy one round trip J ticket for me to fly from LAX to BER. But now I am concerned about this problem. Can anyone offer any advice about how to do this? Has it gotten better? Is it better on KLM than AF? (Either is fine for my purposes) thanks in advance!
Jun 23, 2021, 11:49 am
#104
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 2
My FB is also suspended for 3 months now and is still under audit. I had a new account and transferred miles from Amex.
I paid the taxes with the credit card from my spouse, as she was traveling along me. I think that triggered the red flag and I should have paid with my own card. So be careful! No warning, just suspended.
Btw my account got suspended after the flight. So I was able to use the miles, but I still have a lot of miles left.
Recently I paid for another flight (without miles) so my account looks now more valid. I hope to get my account working again soon.
I paid the taxes with the credit card from my spouse, as she was traveling along me. I think that triggered the red flag and I should have paid with my own card. So be careful! No warning, just suspended.
Btw my account got suspended after the flight. So I was able to use the miles, but I still have a lot of miles left.
Recently I paid for another flight (without miles) so my account looks now more valid. I hope to get my account working again soon.
Jun 25, 2021, 4:12 pm
#105
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: UA 2MM
Posts: 1,679
I am looking at taking an AF flight this summer (they seem to have pretty good last minute business availability and prices if one is slightly flexible on arrival airports in the US).
I had to open a new FB account as my account appears to have been closed due to lack of activity (I credited a flight there years ago and the miles expired). I plan on doing an FB shopping portal purchase and then plan on transferring 1000 MR at first to make sure it goes through before transferring 60k or so. Does anyone recommend something different, unfortunately I don't have any ST flights coming up that I could credit there.
I had to open a new FB account as my account appears to have been closed due to lack of activity (I credited a flight there years ago and the miles expired). I plan on doing an FB shopping portal purchase and then plan on transferring 1000 MR at first to make sure it goes through before transferring 60k or so. Does anyone recommend something different, unfortunately I don't have any ST flights coming up that I could credit there.