Definiton of “Europe” for promo awards?
Can someone help with the link to this IATA defintion which apparently does not include Lebanon but it’s southern neigbour? Many thanks |
See IATA's website - the process how it can be found for the future reference is here.
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Originally Posted by ok986
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See IATA's website - the process how it can be found for the future reference is here.
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Originally Posted by Hafnia
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Thank you for the link to the iata website which I did look at before posting. Grateful if you could point out where the content of the link provides a definition of which countries are part of “Europe”? Many thanks in advance. For a full listing, see IATA Phraseology overview. Many IATA reports contain such table. |
The "logic" behind this is the Israeli-Arab conflict. Not much different from, for example, the situation in the basket ball Euroleague that includes israeli teams (and many other sports as well).
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Originally Posted by Hafnia
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Grateful if you could point out where the content of the link provides a definition of which countries are part of “Europe”? Many thanks in advance.
Accepting the Urals-Caspian-Caucasus as the boundary between Europe and Asia, then Armenia is definitely not in Europe. Since it is on the list anyway, that begs the question why Georgia is not? Turkey can least claim a toehold, but including a bunch of North African countries (but not Egypt?) is plainly ridiculous. Last time they were anywhere near European was when Rome sacked Carthage and imposed its rule. And what happened to Lichtenstein, Andorra, Monaco and San Marino? Johan |
Originally Posted by ok986
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Now you see Israel is listed there. You asked where this is stated, and i gave you an example.
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Originally Posted by johan rebel
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And what happened to Lichtenstein, Andorra, Monaco and San Marino?
Johan They - along with the Vatican City - are the only countries not to have got around to building an airport yet. |
Originally Posted by johan rebel
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Turkey can least claim a toehold, but including a bunch of North African countries (but not Egypt?) is plainly ridiculous. Last time they were anywhere near European was when Rome sacked Carthage and imposed its rule.
And what happened to Lichtenstein, Andorra, Monaco and San Marino? |
Originally Posted by Hafnia
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Can someone help with the link to this IATA defintion which apparently does not include Lebanon but it’s southern neigbour? Many thanks
Originally Posted by Hafnia
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West Russia
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I would be interested to know what airports West Russia contains, i.e. how far East you can go. For booking ordinary rewards, this would be interesting. However, it is a major negative that Aeroflot award flights are now loaded with extra taxes and charges (presumably YQ).
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Originally Posted by Concerto
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I would be interested to know what airports West Russia contains, i.e. how far East you can go. For booking ordinary rewards, this would be interesting. However, it is a major negative that Aeroflot award flights are now loaded with extra taxes and charges (presumably YQ).
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Previously I was able to book Samara (KUF) for normal European rates. A round trip was 25,000 miles, with a smattering of taxes. Now, ticket prices have come down sharply and award ticket bogus surcharges have gone up sharply.
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
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They - along with the Vatican City - are the only countries not to have got around to building an airport yet.
Although bit harder to define than some other continents, it should be pretty evident to most what Europe means in a geographic sense. IATA obviously lacks geographic sense, and stretching an accepted definition to suit its own unclear purposes doesn't help. Besides, both Liechtenstein (ICAO:LSXB) and Monaco (IATA: MCM, ICAO:LNMC) have officially recognized heliports ( Collins English Dictionary: an airport for helicopters)
Originally Posted by NickB
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I think that if you give yourself two minutes to think about it and think about what the first "A" in IATA stands for, you might have your answer...
I think "A" stands for "Air". I strongly suspect that all four countries have plenty of air, and that some of their inhabitants not only breathe that air, but on occasion travel by air as well. Doesn't really have much to do with whether they are in Europe or not. Johan |
Originally Posted by Concerto
(Post 30652045)
I would be interested to know what airports West Russia contains, i.e. how far East you can go.
Johan |
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