China Southern leaving ST
Nov 17, 2018, 3:30 pm
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Nov 17, 2018, 3:31 pm
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Leaving ST will likely happen only in a couple of months, but we don't know when. I would say you are likely safe until end march, but that's just my own feeling. If the JV with AF survives, then it will be fine also. Overall, making long term CZ booking today is not recommended due to the uncertainties. Even booking on an AF code-share will not protect you as the ticket will be reissued with CZ flight numbers when the partnership ends.
Nov 30, 2018, 8:03 am
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I asked the Platinum Service Line to give me a definitive answer on this because I am considering booking China Southern for May 2019.
After a few days of waiting, the answer came back verbally. We will continue to receive our SkyTeam benefits with China Southern until December 31, 2019. I suggested to the PSL it would be good to publish this somewhere as this important info is not visible online.
After a few days of waiting, the answer came back verbally. We will continue to receive our SkyTeam benefits with China Southern until December 31, 2019. I suggested to the PSL it would be good to publish this somewhere as this important info is not visible online.
Nov 30, 2018, 2:47 pm
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That's what I sort of thought (but wasn't sure), going by some of the things I have read about this. It would make sense, but I guess they can pull benefits and miles earning at any time in reality. That happened to me when Virgin America got bought by Alaska, and I had some VX flights in 1st I had hoped to credit to VS Flying Club. VX very quickly ceased to be connected to VS.
Nov 30, 2018, 3:45 pm
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I am also a little wary given that the info is not yet published online, but I trust that the PSL would choose to give me the XP at the very least, given they have a record of my correspondence. China Southern is one of the three SkyTeam members I have not flown; very keen to try it out next year while the benefits still exist!
Dec 1, 2018, 2:19 am
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My understanding from somewhat reliable Chinese sources is that relations have been tense ever since MU took ownership in AFKL and AA in CZ.
The only certainty is that CZ leaves ST on 31 December 2018.Other details are still under discussion.
The only certainty is that CZ leaves ST on 31 December 2018.Other details are still under discussion.
Dec 1, 2018, 1:04 pm
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I am also a little wary given that the info is not yet published online, but I trust that the PSL would choose to give me the XP at the very least, given they have a record of my correspondence. China Southern is one of the three SkyTeam members I have not flown; very keen to try it out next year while the benefits still exist!
Dec 1, 2018, 3:05 pm
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There will be a period of transition and according to what the PSL told me, ST benefits will be applied until 31 December 2019.
Dec 1, 2018, 3:09 pm
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Very good. Then, like you, I would like to travel with China Southern again and ideally enjoy the elite benefits. Definitely one of the better Skyteam ones out there.
Dec 1, 2018, 4:03 pm
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I asked the Platinum Service Line to give me a definitive answer on this because I am considering booking China Southern for May 2019.
After a few days of waiting, the answer came back verbally. We will continue to receive our SkyTeam benefits with China Southern until December 31, 2019. I suggested to the PSL it would be good to publish this somewhere as this important info is not visible online.
After a few days of waiting, the answer came back verbally. We will continue to receive our SkyTeam benefits with China Southern until December 31, 2019. I suggested to the PSL it would be good to publish this somewhere as this important info is not visible online.
Dec 1, 2018, 10:06 pm
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There could be some positive transition for a few months. But I doubt that MU, with a seat on AFKL board, would agree with an extensive joint venture of AFKL with CZ. CZ was both a partner and competitor of AFKL. And in the future they will be primarily a competitor. I think that CZ and AA have high hopes that CZ become a major airline on the Europe-China route.
Dec 2, 2018, 2:19 am
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Dec 2, 2018, 6:26 am
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Well yes, I believe it because I wrote and called the PSL three times about it and they said they would come back to me with a definitive answer, which they finally did on the third call. I don't see why the PSL would invent a date out of thin air and assure me this was the confirmed answer, but I could be wrong...
Dec 2, 2018, 5:51 pm
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There could be some positive transition for a few months. But I doubt that MU, with a seat on AFKL board, would agree with an extensive joint venture of AFKL with CZ. CZ was both a partner and competitor of AFKL. And in the future they will be primarily a competitor. I think that CZ and AA have high hopes that CZ become a major airline on the Europe-China route.