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delanotre Jan 13, 2018 8:03 am

AF codeshare on Etihad
 
Looking for AF flights in Y to KTM there is only one code share with Etihad via AUH. What about ST elite + on these flights (EY is not ST) regarding lounges and Sky priority?
Merci

delanotre Jan 13, 2018 10:56 am

I just phoned to the Plat line and they say "no" except if you are in J...
AF fare is ~ 20% more expensive than EY on same flights.
So, the difference is only for crediting miles.

Goldorak Jan 13, 2018 11:22 am

The answer they gave you is correct, unfortunately. Code-share outside the alliance is always complicated for Elite+ benefits.

ranskis Jan 13, 2018 6:09 pm

But some FB Platinum benefits might apply if the flight is coded AF or KL, like lounge access.

brunos Jan 14, 2018 3:38 am


Originally Posted by ranskis (Post 29289653)
But some FB Platinum benefits might apply if the flight is coded AF or KL, like lounge access.

Really? You get access to EY lounge?

delanotre Jan 14, 2018 6:25 am


Originally Posted by ranskis (Post 29289653)
But some FB Platinum benefits might apply if the flight is coded AF or KL, like lounge access.

My 4 flights are AF coded on EY but nothing to wait as FB Platinum, says AF.
Have you some counterexamples?

Goldorak Jan 14, 2018 10:27 am


Originally Posted by ranskis (Post 29289653)
But some FB Platinum benefits might apply if the flight is coded AF or KL, like lounge access.


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 29290619)
Really? You get access to EY lounge?

I remember several reports on this forum for the same route and there was no lounge access even if AF coded. When it comes to code-share outside the alliance, there is nothing automatic and it all comes to the agreement signed between the partners or to the agreements AF may have signed with some local operators. For instance, on medium-haul, AF Elite+ pax flying Y on AF-coded tickets have lounge access when flying to/from HEL on AY and in VIE when flying on OS. But, with EY, I think there’s nothing even in CDG.

irishguy28 Jan 14, 2018 10:58 am

Indeed, as EY is entirely outside Skyteam, and is not a Flying Blue partner, there is absolutely no question of AF elites having access to lounges when travelling on AF-coded EY-operated flights.

There may be one or two places where there is some other agreement in place - I don't know, but perhaps AF elites travelling on AF-coded flights from CDG have access to the Etihad lounge - but you should never expect your Flying Blue status to get you into a non-Skyteam lounge, except in those cases where an exceptional agreement is in place.

delanotre Jan 15, 2018 2:41 am

Thank you Goldorak and irishguy28. I wait nothing but I ask also to EtihadHelp Company Representative, Etihad on FT forum to know if something is coming.
I will post his/her answer.

irishguy28 Jan 15, 2018 2:43 am

I would warn you that the responses from the various staff that use the EtihadHelp handle frequently do not address the question asked, and often just request you to send your query to an email address.

Even if you were to get a competent answer from them, it would be no different than the responses you have got here - I wouldn't expect a thorough and rigorous listing of locations where an FB elite on an AF-codeshare can have access to EY lounges (even assuming that this is even possible).

ranskis Jan 15, 2018 5:01 am


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 29290619)
Really? You get access to EY lounge?

I don't know for EY, hence the "might" in my reply, based on what I know has been explained by Goldorak: when flying to HEL or VIE (and also RIX and TLL to my understanding) on AF tickets, you get lounge access although Finnair and Austrian are members of competing alliances and Air Baltic is not aligned. Then for the EY code share, I have not experienced it myself.

Goldorak Jan 15, 2018 1:29 pm

@delanotre : you should try and please report here ;)
In CDG, if you manage to have an AF BP with the SkyP mention, you have a good chance to have Accès N°1/SkyP access for immigration and security. Indeed, several Skyteam airlines are departing from 2C and the PAF/PIF are now common between 2A and 2C (I believe EY in in 2A). Lounge access : you have nothing to loose to try, especially in CDG. As they say in a very famous French movie from the 70's: "vas-y fonce, oublie que t'as aucune chance. On ne sait jamais sur un malentendu ça peut marcher*" :D

* les bronzés font du ski

delanotre Jan 16, 2018 2:59 am


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 29296321)
@delanotre : you should try and please report here ;)
In CDG, if you manage to have an AF BP with the SkyP mention, you have a good chance to have Accès N°1/SkyP access for immigration and security. Indeed, several Skyteam airlines are departing from 2C and the PAF/PIF are now common between 2A and 2C (I believe EY in in 2A). Lounge access : you have nothing to loose to try, especially in CDG. As they say in a very famous French movie from the 70's: "vas-y fonce, oublie que t'as aucune chance. On ne sait jamais sur un malentendu ça peut marcher*" :D * les bronzés font du ski

Il faut conclure!

Etihadhelp writes: Unfortunately Air France frequent flyer don't have benefits on our flights. We hope this helps. *Isi

With an AF coded flight, bought on AF, you think I can go, as usual, to AF/ST+ check-in, if exists, in 2C?

irishguy28 Jan 16, 2018 3:06 am


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 29298553)
With an AF coded flight, bought on AF, you think I can go, as usual, to AF/ST+ check-in, if exists, in 2C?

No! Not at all!

You must check in with the operating carrier, i.e. Etihad.

Note that if you are travelling in Economy, you will have to use the regular Etihad economy check-in line. Flying Blue status won't allow you to use Eithad Business/Priority check in lines. (Though if you want to brazen it out and try, go ahead - it may work - but you have no right to expect it to work).

(EDIT: It seems that the only Skyteam members to deapart Saudia and Aeroflot depart from T2C; so I really doubt that Etihad would have subcontracted their checkin to any Skyteam entity there)

delanotre Jan 16, 2018 4:23 am

Merci.


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