Mileage requirement increased for CDG-SXM?
Nov 12, 2017, 11:34 am
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Mileage requirement increased for CDG-SXM?
Has AF increased Business award prices on this route from 62.500 to 75.000? I can't seem to find any day less than 75k....
Nov 12, 2017, 1:54 pm
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I don't think they really increased the number of miles needed but remember that award redemption has become a dynamic offering for a while now. I believe what you see is just a consequence of less flights and less J seats available.
Indeed, the AF non-stop flights to SXM are still suspended for an unlimited period (with a few exceptions for special flights around Christmas and new year times) and are replaced by one weekly new AF short-haul flight (A320) from PTP in connection with the ORY service. There are also some code-sharing with Air Antilles from PTP to SFG (Grand Case airport on the French side of the island). ORY-FDF being served with a COI 77W with only 14J seats, it's not surprising that they request more miles in a dynamic pricing context than with the A343 to SXM with about 30 J seats.
And on the KL side, the service operates via CUR and only twice a week and with the smallest long-haul module they have : the A332. So clearly less redemption options in J.
Indeed, the AF non-stop flights to SXM are still suspended for an unlimited period (with a few exceptions for special flights around Christmas and new year times) and are replaced by one weekly new AF short-haul flight (A320) from PTP in connection with the ORY service. There are also some code-sharing with Air Antilles from PTP to SFG (Grand Case airport on the French side of the island). ORY-FDF being served with a COI 77W with only 14J seats, it's not surprising that they request more miles in a dynamic pricing context than with the A343 to SXM with about 30 J seats.
And on the KL side, the service operates via CUR and only twice a week and with the smallest long-haul module they have : the A332. So clearly less redemption options in J.
Nov 13, 2017, 8:32 am
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I don't think they really increased the number of miles needed but remember that award redemption has become a dynamic offering for a while now. I believe what you see is just a consequence of less flights and less J seats available.
Indeed, the AF non-stop flights to SXM are still suspended for an unlimited period (with a few exceptions for special flights around Christmas and new year times) and are replaced by one weekly new AF short-haul flight (A320) from PTP in connection with the ORY service.
Indeed, the AF non-stop flights to SXM are still suspended for an unlimited period (with a few exceptions for special flights around Christmas and new year times) and are replaced by one weekly new AF short-haul flight (A320) from PTP in connection with the ORY service.
Nov 13, 2017, 9:09 am
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Nov 16, 2017, 10:40 am
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Nov 17, 2017, 6:05 pm
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I had a promo reward for SXM-WAW for September 9, but Irma hit.. I still can't rebook it for ANY date in DEcember - they just refused as "there is no availability" on any date, even though they still have seat for sale on KL flights..