New policy for paid and miles upgrades (AF/KL) - sept 2017
Mar 25, 2019, 1:58 pm
#737
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,909
Does FB miles have a different value for KL vs AF ? 
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This was a trip EDI-AMS-CDG, all on one ticket (AMS is a connection, not a stopover), both flights are KL-coded. 1st flight is KL-operated, 2nd is AF-operated. Paid upgrades were proposed for both flights at check-in:
EDI-AMS: €149 or 17,300 miles
AMS-CDG: €99 or 24,800 miles
. See belowThis was a trip EDI-AMS-CDG, all on one ticket (AMS is a connection, not a stopover), both flights are KL-coded. 1st flight is KL-operated, 2nd is AF-operated. Paid upgrades were proposed for both flights at check-in:
EDI-AMS: €149 or 17,300 miles
AMS-CDG: €99 or 24,800 miles
Mar 25, 2019, 4:23 pm
#738
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,832
I have the impression that their entire algorithm is a bug. Some of the miles/EUR relations do not make any sense.
Mar 25, 2019, 5:03 pm
#739
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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The 89 EUR/22,300 miles is consistent with my 99 EUR/24,000 miles (1 mile = 0.4c). If there was a bug in my EDI-AMS-CDG story, it was likely with the KL flight.
Mar 30, 2019, 12:08 pm
#744
Join Date: May 2017
Location: MAN
Programs: FB Platinum
Posts: 313
Not quite the right place for it, but:
MAN-BLR rtn Y-J £779. The client would only spring for Y, but the flights are around the Easter weekend, so Y tickets were rather expensive. I changed the tickets at my own expense to J on all 4 legs. Not bad value with an extra 60XP and 6000 miles...
When prices are like ths, I don't wait for possible upgrades on one leg. The only problem is that the return flight is on a 332, so 2-2-2 seating in J.
MAN-BLR rtn Y-J £779. The client would only spring for Y, but the flights are around the Easter weekend, so Y tickets were rather expensive. I changed the tickets at my own expense to J on all 4 legs. Not bad value with an extra 60XP and 6000 miles...
When prices are like ths, I don't wait for possible upgrades on one leg. The only problem is that the return flight is on a 332, so 2-2-2 seating in J.
Apr 11, 2019, 8:10 am
#747
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: VIE/PRG
Programs: FB Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 1,591
It sure is annoying but with 4 F seats when the cabin is empty cheap upgrade would make the product looks also cheap. I am frustrated too, still waiting for some good fare (no, I am not giving 200k miles for OW to the US) but I understand AF in this.
Apr 11, 2019, 4:20 pm
#748
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SJC / SFO
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 784
Apr 11, 2019, 8:06 pm
#749
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: MAN
Programs: FB Platinum
Posts: 500
I have other plans for my miles. I wasn't considering an upgrade as it happens. What I think is wrong that the upgrade offer is the same for both O and C especially when the C price was about £1K less than F when booked. A couple of years ago the same upgrades were being offered at 1500 euros. My last flight went from full availability in F to full in a day so I expect this will still be popular.
Apr 12, 2019, 3:26 am
#750
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: VIE/PRG
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