New policy for paid and miles upgrades (AF/KL) - sept 2017
Nov 5, 2018, 6:08 am
#541
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: DUS, BRU, POA
Programs: Skyteam E+ (FB PfL), Latam Black, LH MM, Iberia plus, HH: Diamond, Marriott Bonvoy: Plat
Posts: 1,116
(I was seated right behind La Premičre and could see that both seats (2/4) did remain empty, by the way.)
Nov 5, 2018, 6:20 am
#542
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 756
Not so sure, even if there are empty seats, as a Plat you won't always be able to upgrade. Earlier this year, I tried to DoD upgrade from J (I was on a Z-fare). 2 seats available in P but no - was told that I was not eligible because of the Z-fare.
(I was seated right behind La Premičre and could see that both seats (2/4) did remain empty, by the way.)
(I was seated right behind La Premičre and could see that both seats (2/4) did remain empty, by the way.)
And also one time from an N economy fare that I upgraded to J with miles via the PSL. When I checked in at JFK, I was offered to upgrade to P for, wait for it, 210.000 additional miles. Needless to say I didn’t do that. I didn’t even have the miles.
Nov 5, 2018, 1:40 pm
#543
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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Not so sure, even if there are empty seats, as a Plat you won't always be able to upgrade. Earlier this year, I tried to DoD upgrade from J (I was on a Z-fare). 2 seats available in P but no - was told that I was not eligible because of the Z-fare.
(I was seated right behind La Premičre and could see that both seats (2/4) did remain empty, by the way.)
(I was seated right behind La Premičre and could see that both seats (2/4) did remain empty, by the way.)
Nov 5, 2018, 4:42 pm
#544
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SJC / SFO
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 782
Not so sure, even if there are empty seats, as a Plat you won't always be able to upgrade. Earlier this year, I tried to DoD upgrade from J (I was on a Z-fare). 2 seats available in P but no - was told that I was not eligible because of the Z-fare.
(I was seated right behind La Premičre and could see that both seats (2/4) did remain empty, by the way.)
(I was seated right behind La Premičre and could see that both seats (2/4) did remain empty, by the way.)
Nov 5, 2018, 7:36 pm
#545
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,832
The points I don‘t quite get yet/I am looking to get confirmation for as there have been contradicting information on them in this thread:
1) As long as seats are available for sale, they can also be obtained with miles for an upgrade? Or is a specific booking class required? This can be done no matter whether an upgrade was offered during OLCI?
2) That rule is valid at any time before departure? Or only on DoD?
3) The website does not show full availability, but one may be able to get the upgrade by calling AF?
Thanks
Last edited by San Gottardo; Nov 5, 2018 at 10:39 pm
Nov 5, 2018, 11:40 pm
#547
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: DUS, BRU, POA
Programs: Skyteam E+ (FB PfL), Latam Black, LH MM, Iberia plus, HH: Diamond, Marriott Bonvoy: Plat
Posts: 1,116
Edit: I was explicitly asking for a miles upgrade to burn some awards miles, I was close to 2M at the time. The once here who came across offers from Z obviously talk about cash/OLCI upgrades, perhaps that makes the difference.
Last edited by wuzziduzziman; Nov 5, 2018 at 11:48 pm
Nov 6, 2018, 1:17 am
#548
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 756
Yep, Platinum. Booking class C.
The points I don‘t quite get yet/I am looking to get confirmation for as there have been contradicting information on them in this thread:
1) As long as seats are available for sale, they can also be obtained with miles for an upgrade? Or is a specific booking class required? This can be done no matter whether an upgrade was offered during OLCI?
2) That rule is valid at any time before departure? Or only on DoD?
3) The website does not show full availability, but one may be able to get the upgrade by calling AF?
Thanks
You can always call the PSL and see what they can do. The agents there are willing to go the extra mile.
Nov 6, 2018, 5:05 am
#549
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum - Royal Orchid Gold - Accor A-Club Platinum
Posts: 49
With the so called new invented program, you almost always have an option on screen to apply for an upgrade. And when you apply, most of the times “there are no seats left”.
Nov 6, 2018, 7:23 am
#550
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern Calif./Eastern Ida.
Programs: Amethyst Premier Plutonium Medallion
Posts: 20,627
AF72
CDG - LAX
at OLCI was offered upgrade from W to J for $478 US
Original ticket was in G class on DL stock
accepted the offers. 8 seats were available - we reserved two at this price.
no miles or miles and cash options were offered-but we travel on DL FFP numbers
CDG - LAX
at OLCI was offered upgrade from W to J for $478 US
Original ticket was in G class on DL stock
accepted the offers. 8 seats were available - we reserved two at this price.
no miles or miles and cash options were offered-but we travel on DL FFP numbers
Nov 6, 2018, 7:39 am
#551
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,832
Nov 6, 2018, 10:11 am
#552
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: AF/KL FB Plat ; A3 Gold ; HH Gold ; IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 2,375
C is usually pretty expensive, what would be the fare difference to change it to F? I checked CDG SFO and D was more expensive than F (60 days advanced purchase) for instance.
If F is available, I guess you can upgrade with miles from a C paid fare if the fare difference between C and F is too high.
If F is available, I guess you can upgrade with miles from a C paid fare if the fare difference between C and F is too high.
