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Old Sep 21, 2020, 1:14 pm
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CDG-FLR and return : 79 EUR one-way.
on the return from FLR, misery on the ground : lounge closed, priority lane at security closed and only one lane open at security (it took forever), no SkyP boarding. But this is for our safety of course
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Old Sep 21, 2020, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by canadavid
Offers at OLCI registered without status if it matters:
NTE-CDG = 49€
CDG-CAI=189 or 27000 miles
On the way back:
CAI-CDG: 219 or 31300 miles (red-eye 2am-6am). Would be almost same price to just change the ticket to business and get double xp
CDG-NTE =49€
Too bad i am travelling with a colleague !
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Old Sep 23, 2020, 12:19 am
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CDG-ATH; €379, 8/12 seats available.
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Old Sep 23, 2020, 12:33 am
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Originally Posted by offvoice
CDG-ATH; €379, 8/12 seats available.
Crazy, when AF sells XXX CDG ATH CDG XXX for 400 EUR in business class sometimes.
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Old Sep 28, 2020, 1:16 am
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Originally Posted by offvoice
CDG-ATH; €379, 8/12 seats available.
Same price on the way back, 4/20 seats avail
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Old Sep 29, 2020, 12:28 am
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Anyone who had a KL/AF flight that was upgraded with miles cancelled and had to have an involuntary reroute? Will they rebook you in J on the different route or refund the miles?
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Old Sep 29, 2020, 12:29 am
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Anyone recently on AMS-MEX vv booked in Y? I know the flights are empty so ghetto J would be definitely fine but was just curious what the offers are now. Thinking of flying next week.
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 5:58 am
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I just checked in for a flight with a friend. We’re on different reservations but bought the same ticket and fare class. He was presented with an upgrade offer to business for 499 €. I was presented with the same business upgrade offer 1829 €. We checked in at exactly the same time.

Is this typical of AF? I’m a bit taken aback
at being treated differently and would like to know why.
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by Sleepy_Sentry
I just checked in for a flight with a friend. We’re on different reservations but bought the same ticket and fare class. He was presented with an upgrade offer to business for 499 €. I was presented with the same business upgrade offer 1829 €. We checked in at exactly the same time.

Is this typical of AF? I’m a bit taken aback
at being treated differently and would like to know why.
Do you have a frequent flyer status with Flying Blue and your friend does not? That’s sometimes the reason behind a difference in OLCI upgrade fare
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by offvoice
Do you have a frequent flyer status with Flying Blue and your friend does not? That’s sometimes the reason behind a difference in OLCI upgrade fare
That's the only reason I can thinjk of, but I'm only an Explorer. He has no Flying Blue membership.

There was a massive difference for PE (200 EUR for him versus 749 EUR for me) as well.

In the past I have taken advantage of much cheaper upgrade offers.
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Sleepy_Sentry
That's the only reason I can thinjk of, but I'm only an Explorer. He has no Flying Blue membership.

There was a massive difference for PE (200 EUR versus 749 EUR) as well.
Some other reasons might include: you flew in Business in the past; you flew more frequently (even as an explorer) than him.

Lastly, one has to assume there is a dark side to yield mgmt that we are bound not to understand. Both my partner and I are platinum and fly often together on different PNR - we never have a matching price for OLCI upgrades (sometimes 3x/4x more expensive).
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Sleepy_Sentry
Is this typical of AF? I’m a bit taken aback
at being treated differently and would like to know why.
Similar situations have been reported multiple times in this thread. Nobody knows the mysteries of the limbs of the paid upgrade algorithm of AFKL !
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by offvoice
Lastly, one has to assume there is a dark side to yield mgmt that we are bound not to understand. Both my partner and I are platinum and fly often together on different PNR - we never have a matching price for OLCI upgrades (sometimes 3x/4x more expensive).
I don't know how dark it is, but it is not surprising to see different prices. We all know that there are pricing buckets. When the bucket is full you move to the next higher priced bucket. So it works with paid upgrades. If they sent out the same price to everyone then they would overflow the bucket.
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 1:17 pm
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Sometime you find the same price no matter your flying blue status
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Old Oct 5, 2020, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Sleepy_Sentry
In the past I have taken advantage of much cheaper upgrade offers.
I'm betting that's why. If you took cheaper upgrades and he didn't then I'd say that's why your price is much higher.
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