New policy for paid and miles upgrades (AF/KL) - sept 2017
Nov 13, 2017, 9:16 am
#136
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lawrence, MA USA
Programs: Delta Gold
Posts: 273
Yeah, totally agree. Instead I splurged $18 for a "Seat At The Front of The Plane", which gave me an aisle seat with an empty middle. Now that was a good investment!
Nov 13, 2017, 11:49 pm
#138
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
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Nov 14, 2017, 9:22 am
#139
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Seattle
Programs: DL DM; Hyatt Globalist; etc
Posts: 540
Flying JFK-CDG-LOS in PE - looks like JFK-CDG is totally sold out, so no offers.
CDG-LOS from PE -> J was offered for $383.83 US, which isn't awful, but if I was going to spend $$ to upgrade it'd be on AF009 overnight and not the daytime flight to LOS.
CDG-LOS from PE -> J was offered for $383.83 US, which isn't awful, but if I was going to spend $$ to upgrade it'd be on AF009 overnight and not the daytime flight to LOS.
Nov 14, 2017, 12:30 pm
#140
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If I were you I would have taken it without hesitation !
Nov 14, 2017, 1:44 pm
#142
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Seattle
Programs: DL DM; Hyatt Globalist; etc
Posts: 540
There are still many seats available for that price! I'm torn - it's not a ton of money, but paying almost $400 to go to an angle-flat seat (this is an A332) seems iffy.
You all are making me rethink this!
You all are making me rethink this!
Nov 14, 2017, 2:14 pm
#143
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You say it's an angle-flat seat. Yes, certainly but only very slightly angled and it's still J and personally, I never had any problem to sleep in. And after a transatlantic flight in PE ? For me it would be a no brainer. But of course, only you can make the decision.
Nov 15, 2017, 1:44 am
#145
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,836
Seems like CDG-EZE upgrades were too expensive on that particular date, at least for some:
Air France crew held in custody in Argentina for not upgrading a passenger (article in French only)
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That'll make them think twice when upgrading a friend/family member instead of a passenger next time
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Air France crew held in custody in Argentina for not upgrading a passenger (article in French only)
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That'll make them think twice when upgrading a friend/family member instead of a passenger next time
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Nov 15, 2017, 4:39 am
#146
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Seattle
Programs: DL DM; Hyatt Globalist; etc
Posts: 540
A (hopefully) happy ending for everyone: I was stubborn and didn't buy the J seat before I boarded JFK-CDG and immediately regretted it - PE is nice for what it is, but wow I am going to need a nice nap after flying that across the Atlantic.
Upon landing and attempting to buy a J seat, it looks like I've already been op-up'd to 6F. I guess everyone wins today
Nov 22, 2017, 1:14 am
#148
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BER
Posts: 512
TXL-CDG 89€ with J3 Y2 available close to departure times
CDG-SIN no offer from Y to anything with availability showing P1 J0 W4 Y1; Y ended up completely full and W looked full as well
ICN-AMS 999€ from Y+ to J; availability showing J9 Y9 a couple of days before the flight; Y was completely full in the end and at least 8 seats in J remained free
--> would have loved to throw up to 500€ at KLM, but certainly not 999... given the significant number of empty seats the offered price seems rather odd.
AMS-TXL 129€ from Y+ to J; flight left 98-100% full in Y and had 2 seats remaining in J
CDG-SIN no offer from Y to anything with availability showing P1 J0 W4 Y1; Y ended up completely full and W looked full as well
ICN-AMS 999€ from Y+ to J; availability showing J9 Y9 a couple of days before the flight; Y was completely full in the end and at least 8 seats in J remained free
--> would have loved to throw up to 500€ at KLM, but certainly not 999... given the significant number of empty seats the offered price seems rather odd.
AMS-TXL 129€ from Y+ to J; flight left 98-100% full in Y and had 2 seats remaining in J
Nov 23, 2017, 1:39 am
#149
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SJC / SFO
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 785
Hmm, I just upgraded my return leg TLV-CDG-SFO from Y/W to J/Z for $508 (both of the flights), which also includes sucking the $300 regular change fee (which they said they won't be waive despite it's an upgrade on the same flights). Nevertheless even the $508 is cheap given what I see here (and it's also for that 5 hour TLV-CDG flight). Yes, the actual fare difference is just $208.
Last edited by Sjondorn; Nov 23, 2017 at 2:53 am