Need inventory information? Ask here
Dec 7, 2019, 6:43 pm
#228
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sacramento
Programs: FB Silver, BA Gold; BW Diamond Select, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 156
Dec 8, 2019, 4:22 pm
#229
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Dec 11, 2019, 12:16 pm
#231
Join Date: Feb 2014
Programs: Amex Plat, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold, Carlson Gold, CM Presidential / *A Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 1,648
Jan 4, 2020, 4:01 am
#232
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
From ifferent test bookings i trie looks liks point of sale is automatic now, in other words the inventory system returns availability based on the country of the trip origin. Since most reasonably priced long haul fares require round trips or open jaws (where the open segment at origin must be in the same country) AF/ KL are almost fully covered here. Now 'point of sale' is left to manage things like cash flows distribution/ taxation management but no longer the avaialbility. My educated guess.
Moreover, QR clearly mentions that availability within an existing booking and outside it may be different too.
I am sure AF/ KL is already using the same sophistication - as this is exactly what i saw when i was looking for BKK-PAR-MOW availability a month ago.
For this thread it means that you will most likely not get ANY accurate results requesting availability here for other than the outbound trip (first segment or segments if you have a cannection).
The big question now is how Expertflyer and KVS etc retrieve the information for the 'return' leg - if that is a separate GDS request, then it will not provide accurate information (my experience is that it works like this). If that comes in a single request then there is a way to get accurate availability for other than outbound trip.
Any further thoughts?
Jan 4, 2020, 7:10 am
#233
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,339
Fare buckets is only part of the story. An N bucket may contain 5 entries, but what is important are the actual N-based fares. As those have different restrictions or may not even apply to your itinerary at all. Also prices may vary depending on direction, and if a one-way or round trip base is used.
So just knowing the availability (number) for a fare class is not enough, you will also need to verify if the fare for your ticket type exists for that bucket.
So just knowing the availability (number) for a fare class is not enough, you will also need to verify if the fare for your ticket type exists for that bucket.
Jan 5, 2020, 2:26 am
#234
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
Jan 16, 2020, 7:08 pm
#235
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: AMS
Programs: BA Silver ITA Premium
Posts: 27
First post on this marvelous forum! Looking for loads on KL 676 YEG - AMS 19/1. On the outward trip to YEG 4 seats on row 6 on the A330-200 became available only about 24 hrs before OLCI, Are these basinet seats released only then or was it a coincidence? I know BA has this policy, don't know about KL. Now in exit row 30 but in doubt for a eco+ seat other than row 6. Thanks in advance!
Jan 17, 2020, 3:25 am
#236
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum | Flying Blue Petroleum | Hilton Gold | Marriott Gold | Shangri-La Jade
Posts: 306
First post on this marvelous forum! Looking for loads on KL 676 YEG - AMS 19/1. On the outward trip to YEG 4 seats on row 6 on the A330-200 became available only about 24 hrs before OLCI, Are these basinet seats released only then or was it a coincidence? I know BA has this policy, don't know about KL. Now in exit row 30 but in doubt for a eco+ seat other than row 6. Thanks in advance!
Currently 6B until 6H are still blocked.
Jan 26, 2020, 1:35 pm
#238
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 35
Hi. I'm flying from ORY to PTP on AF next friday.
Data is J - 2 C - 2 D - 1 W - 2 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 9 T - 9 E - 9 N - 9 R - 9 V - 9 (onward) and C - 5 D - 4 Z - 2 W - 1 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 8 T - 6 E - 5 N - 3 (return).
Return flight seems full, right? I just try to figure out if I get any chance of having an empty seat next to me, since AF uses 468 seats B777 on its Carribean routes :/
Data is J - 2 C - 2 D - 1 W - 2 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 9 T - 9 E - 9 N - 9 R - 9 V - 9 (onward) and C - 5 D - 4 Z - 2 W - 1 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 8 T - 6 E - 5 N - 3 (return).
Return flight seems full, right? I just try to figure out if I get any chance of having an empty seat next to me, since AF uses 468 seats B777 on its Carribean routes :/
Jan 26, 2020, 10:59 pm
#239
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Hi. I'm flying from ORY to PTP on AF next friday.
Data is J - 2 C - 2 D - 1 W - 2 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 9 T - 9 E - 9 N - 9 R - 9 V - 9 (onward) and C - 5 D - 4 Z - 2 W - 1 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 8 T - 6 E - 5 N - 3 (return).
Return flight seems full, right? I just try to figure out if I get any chance of having an empty seat next to me, since AF uses 468 seats B777 on its Carribean routes :/
Data is J - 2 C - 2 D - 1 W - 2 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 9 T - 9 E - 9 N - 9 R - 9 V - 9 (onward) and C - 5 D - 4 Z - 2 W - 1 Y - 9 B - 9 M - 9 U - 9 K - 9 H - 9 L - 9 Q - 8 T - 6 E - 5 N - 3 (return).
Return flight seems full, right? I just try to figure out if I get any chance of having an empty seat next to me, since AF uses 468 seats B777 on its Carribean routes :/
Mar 17, 2020, 1:06 pm
#240
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zanzibar
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 1,319
Anyone with access to flights when they will be operated in the next 10 days and if there is availability. Internet here in north of Yucatan is very very slow and searching is very difficult.
CUN-CDG-AMS
MEX-AMS
We are going to fly out family back to EU as MEX will probably will be hit hard too as they are totally underestimating Corona.
Appreciated!
EDIT
Found availability on MEX - AMS (Aeromexico with miles for the whole family) 19th. Hope it flies. I am on KLM but they wanted 325k miles. And AM 72k.
CUN-CDG-AMS
MEX-AMS
We are going to fly out family back to EU as MEX will probably will be hit hard too as they are totally underestimating Corona.
Appreciated!
EDIT
Found availability on MEX - AMS (Aeromexico with miles for the whole family) 19th. Hope it flies. I am on KLM but they wanted 325k miles. And AM 72k.
Last edited by Meneer Guggenheimer; Mar 17, 2020 at 3:08 pm