May 9, 19, 4:08 pm
Last edit by: Goldorak
FLYING BLUE ULTIMATE
Main facts
Ultimate is not a status in FB but a tag on Platinum / Platinum for life / Club 2000 Skipper existing status.
While regular FB status (Silver/Gold/Platinum) are based on experience points earning (XP), Ultimate status is obtained by Ultimate XP (UXP) earning. UXPs are earned exclusively on AF- and KL-coded (= marketed) flights, whatever the operating airline.
Some examples :
- CDG-JFK AF-marketing, AF-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- CDG-JFK DL-marketing, AF-operating : NON-eligible to UXP earning
- AMS-BOS KL-marketing, DL-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- BOS-IND KL-marketing, DL-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- SIN-SYD AF-marketing, QF-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- CDG-FCO AZ-marketing, AZ-operating : NON-eligible to UXP earning
XP earned via AFKL Amex cards are not eligible (those are XP and not UXP).
To qualify for Ultimate, it is needed to have 900 UXP over a year. It is similar to the normal XP counter, resetting as soon as the tier is reached. Ultimate is valid for 1 year once granted. Note 03/2023 : the qualification system just changed from 1800 UXP over 2 years to 900 UXP/1 year. Some transitional measures are in place for the current Ultimate members. See here for details about handling of transition period :
https://www.flyingblue.com/fr/landin...m_content=main
New 03/2023 : a rollover of surplus UXP (over 900) is now possible to the next year and only to the next year (example : year 1, the member earns 2000UXP. At the end of year 1, only 900 UXP will be rolled-over to year 2 and the remaining 1100 UXP earned in Y1 will be lost and not be transferred to year 3. If during year 2, the member earned 1000 new (fresh) UXP, 100 will be rolled-over to year 3.
Hard benefits
- All FB Platinum/Club 2000-Skipper benefits
- Access to a Travel Assistant service 24/7. They are reachable by phone or by email. In practice, from 8 pm to 8 am CET, calls are taken by the Platinum line.
- highest priority on waiting list and in case of irrops
- Possibility to register up to 8 persons who can benefit from Sky Priority services and lounge access when traveling with the Ultimate member and on same PNR(lounge access is only in AFKL lounges here). Note that we had several reports in 2022 showing that SP benefits are not granted in practice to travel companions.
- one companion Platinum card
- when the Ultimate member is flying P, 2 guests are allowed in CDG P lounge.
- Zone 1 boarding, irrespective of travel class.
- Access to Hertz Platinum status
- four one-class upgrade certificates per membership year, requiring 1 from W to J, or 2 from Y to J. Upgrades are confirmed instantly at the time of booking (via the Travel Assistant). One voucher = one way. Vouchers can also be used by one of the 8 registered friend/family members travelling by themselves. In case of a long-haul flight with a medium-haul connection/feeder (e.g. CDG-AMS-JFK), the medium-haul segment will be upgraded also with still only one voucher used. In case of 2 long-haul flights in connection (e,g. DXB-CDG-JFK), the use of 2 vouchers is required to upgrade the 2 segments. Upgrade vouchers are usable only on AF- or KL-marketing and operating flights and the PNR must contains only the AFKL flights to be upgraded (if the PNR contains other non-AFKL flights, you cannot upgrade even just the AFKL flights).
The upgrade coupons are valid as soon as you reach Ultimate and is valid for 12 months. The vouchers need to be used within the membership year, but can be applied for travel post expiry date.
Rules for eligible booking classes for the upgrade vouchers are described below :
AF flights, long-haul
Premium Eco to Business
Original booking class : A, S, W
Upgraded booking class : Z, I, D, C (it means that if the flight has only J fare available, one cannot upgrade)
Eco to Business (all flights, except to/from USA, Canada, Mexico)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R
Upgraded booking class : Z, I, D, C (it means that if the flight has only J fare available, one cannot upgrade)
Eco to Business (flights to/from USA, Canada, Mexico, including LAX-PPT)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N
Upgraded booking class : Z, C
KL flights, long-haul
Eco to Business (all flights, except to/from USA, Canada, Mexico and DEL)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R
Upgraded booking class : Z, I, D, C
Eco to Business (flights to/from USA, Canada, Mexico and DEL)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N
Upgraded booking class : Z, I.
Airline-specific soft (unpublished) benefits
- AF, KL and contract staff at airports have a popup message on their computer screen when checking-in an Ultimate pax or when scanning a BP at the lounge (AFKL lounges only) asking them to be attentive at any special request of the Ultimate pax. See also below for airport-specific soft benefits. There is no known official policy for operational upgrades of Ultimates, but Ultimate members have all reported on FT a higher rate of op-up (but those remain rare !).
- AF and KL cabin crews are instructed to provide extra care and attentions on-board. It can take different forms : special greetings, extra amenities (pillow, oshibori, etc), F&B from the upper class, upgrade on board (Y to J medium haul, W to J or Y to W long haul), earlier and quicker meal service. This is not systematic and is up to the appreciation of the crew. Based on the reports of Ultimate members of this forum, AF crews seems to be more compliant than KL crews with those directives, although there has been several reports in this thread of nice attentions provided by KL crews.- Unlimited downloads (any day) in AF PLAY apps.
Other Skyteam airlines do not provide any extra service or attentions to FB Ultimate passengers.
Airport-specific soft (unpublished) benefits
All benefits below should be understood for departure, unless otherwise noted. In addition to what is mentioned below, it has been reported several cases of expedited transfers organised by AFKL staff in case of short/endangered connection at various airports.
Please complete/edit this list as needed.
AFKL HUBS
Amsterdam
- AMS : some reserved tables in the Non-Schengen lounges. Otherwise no special treatment to report, apart pre-boarding sometimes granted Shame on KL !!!
Paris CDG- CDG 2C :
Paris ORY
EUROPE
Austria
- VIE : no special treatment to report
Croatia
- DBV : no special treatment to report
- SPU : no special treatment to report (not even lounge access)
Czech Republic
- PRG : no special treatment to report. Pre-boarding refused.
Denmark
- CPH : no special treatment to report
France (non-hubs)
- AJA : no special treatment to reportMain facts
Ultimate is not a status in FB but a tag on Platinum / Platinum for life / Club 2000 Skipper existing status.
While regular FB status (Silver/Gold/Platinum) are based on experience points earning (XP), Ultimate status is obtained by Ultimate XP (UXP) earning. UXPs are earned exclusively on AF- and KL-coded (= marketed) flights, whatever the operating airline.
Some examples :
- CDG-JFK AF-marketing, AF-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- CDG-JFK DL-marketing, AF-operating : NON-eligible to UXP earning
- AMS-BOS KL-marketing, DL-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- BOS-IND KL-marketing, DL-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- SIN-SYD AF-marketing, QF-operating : eligible to UXP earning
- CDG-FCO AZ-marketing, AZ-operating : NON-eligible to UXP earning
XP earned via AFKL Amex cards are not eligible (those are XP and not UXP).
To qualify for Ultimate, it is needed to have 900 UXP over a year. It is similar to the normal XP counter, resetting as soon as the tier is reached. Ultimate is valid for 1 year once granted. Note 03/2023 : the qualification system just changed from 1800 UXP over 2 years to 900 UXP/1 year. Some transitional measures are in place for the current Ultimate members. See here for details about handling of transition period :
https://www.flyingblue.com/fr/landin...m_content=main
New 03/2023 : a rollover of surplus UXP (over 900) is now possible to the next year and only to the next year (example : year 1, the member earns 2000UXP. At the end of year 1, only 900 UXP will be rolled-over to year 2 and the remaining 1100 UXP earned in Y1 will be lost and not be transferred to year 3. If during year 2, the member earned 1000 new (fresh) UXP, 100 will be rolled-over to year 3.
Hard benefits
- All FB Platinum/Club 2000-Skipper benefits
- Access to a Travel Assistant service 24/7. They are reachable by phone or by email. In practice, from 8 pm to 8 am CET, calls are taken by the Platinum line.
- highest priority on waiting list and in case of irrops
- Possibility to register up to 8 persons who can benefit from Sky Priority services and lounge access when traveling with the Ultimate member and on same PNR(lounge access is only in AFKL lounges here). Note that we had several reports in 2022 showing that SP benefits are not granted in practice to travel companions.
- one companion Platinum card
- when the Ultimate member is flying P, 2 guests are allowed in CDG P lounge.
- Zone 1 boarding, irrespective of travel class.
- Access to Hertz Platinum status
- four one-class upgrade certificates per membership year, requiring 1 from W to J, or 2 from Y to J. Upgrades are confirmed instantly at the time of booking (via the Travel Assistant). One voucher = one way. Vouchers can also be used by one of the 8 registered friend/family members travelling by themselves. In case of a long-haul flight with a medium-haul connection/feeder (e.g. CDG-AMS-JFK), the medium-haul segment will be upgraded also with still only one voucher used. In case of 2 long-haul flights in connection (e,g. DXB-CDG-JFK), the use of 2 vouchers is required to upgrade the 2 segments. Upgrade vouchers are usable only on AF- or KL-marketing and operating flights and the PNR must contains only the AFKL flights to be upgraded (if the PNR contains other non-AFKL flights, you cannot upgrade even just the AFKL flights).
The upgrade coupons are valid as soon as you reach Ultimate and is valid for 12 months. The vouchers need to be used within the membership year, but can be applied for travel post expiry date.
Rules for eligible booking classes for the upgrade vouchers are described below :
AF flights, long-haul
Premium Eco to Business
Original booking class : A, S, W
Upgraded booking class : Z, I, D, C (it means that if the flight has only J fare available, one cannot upgrade)
Eco to Business (all flights, except to/from USA, Canada, Mexico)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R
Upgraded booking class : Z, I, D, C (it means that if the flight has only J fare available, one cannot upgrade)
Eco to Business (flights to/from USA, Canada, Mexico, including LAX-PPT)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N
Upgraded booking class : Z, C
KL flights, long-haul
Eco to Business (all flights, except to/from USA, Canada, Mexico and DEL)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R
Upgraded booking class : Z, I, D, C
Eco to Business (flights to/from USA, Canada, Mexico and DEL)
Original booking class : Y, B, M, U, K, H, L, Q, T, N
Upgraded booking class : Z, I.
Airline-specific soft (unpublished) benefits
- AF, KL and contract staff at airports have a popup message on their computer screen when checking-in an Ultimate pax or when scanning a BP at the lounge (AFKL lounges only) asking them to be attentive at any special request of the Ultimate pax. See also below for airport-specific soft benefits. There is no known official policy for operational upgrades of Ultimates, but Ultimate members have all reported on FT a higher rate of op-up (but those remain rare !).
- AF and KL cabin crews are instructed to provide extra care and attentions on-board. It can take different forms : special greetings, extra amenities (pillow, oshibori, etc), F&B from the upper class, upgrade on board (Y to J medium haul, W to J or Y to W long haul), earlier and quicker meal service. This is not systematic and is up to the appreciation of the crew. Based on the reports of Ultimate members of this forum, AF crews seems to be more compliant than KL crews with those directives, although there has been several reports in this thread of nice attentions provided by KL crews.- Unlimited downloads (any day) in AF PLAY apps.
Other Skyteam airlines do not provide any extra service or attentions to FB Ultimate passengers.
Airport-specific soft (unpublished) benefits
All benefits below should be understood for departure, unless otherwise noted. In addition to what is mentioned below, it has been reported several cases of expedited transfers organised by AFKL staff in case of short/endangered connection at various airports.
Please complete/edit this list as needed.
AFKL HUBS
Amsterdam
- AMS : some reserved tables in the Non-Schengen lounges. Otherwise no special treatment to report, apart pre-boarding sometimes granted Shame on KL !!!
Paris CDG
- CDG 2E:
- Departure : Escort from check-in to immigration in the morning (super fast track). Reserved space at K/L/M lounges. Pre-boarding upon request at the gate before beginning of general boarding Escort confirmed to be provided as of October 2nd 2023
- Arrival : access to dedicated lane at passport control, all the way to the left, follow the "ULTIMATE" sign. On occasions, ADP staff refuse entry despite show of ULTI boarding pass/status card. Lane confirmed functioning as of October 5th, 2023 (unmanned line)
- Departure : There is a special Ultimate check-in counter in the SkyP zone. Reserved room in the lounge. Pre-boarding upon request at the gate before beginning of general boarding. Escort is provided from the counter to security (skipping the line). Escort confirmed to be provided as of October 5th, 2023
- Arrival : no special treatment to report
- Departure : Reserved space in the lounge
- Arrival : no special treatment to report
Arrival lounge : higher priority for a shower(Note : 2C arrival lounge definitely closed)
Paris ORY
- Departure : Reserved space at Schengen and non-Schengen lounges. Pre-boarding upon request at the lounge.
- Arrival : no special treatment to report
EUROPE
Austria
- VIE : no special treatment to report
Croatia
- DBV : no special treatment to report
- SPU : no special treatment to report (not even lounge access)
Czech Republic
- PRG : no special treatment to report. Pre-boarding refused.
Denmark
- CPH : no special treatment to report
France (non-hubs)
- BES : no special treatment to report
- BIQ : no special treatment to report
- BOD : pre-boarding from lounge to plane inconsistently proposed
- CDG: see top of the list in "AFKL hubs" for most recent update
- LYS : Escort from lounge to plane when flying from B gates provided upon request . Preboarding with escort to the plane consistently provided.
- MPL : pre-boarding with escort from lounge to plane, sometimes proposed (AF agent comes to the contract lounge to meet the Ultimate guest)
- MRS : no special treatment to report
- NCE : Reserved area in Infinity lounge (inconsistently provided : seems to be provided only when lounge crowded). Pre-boarding with escort from lounge to plane, sometimes proposed.
- NTE : no special treatment to report
- ORY: see top of the list in "AFKL hubs" for most recent update
- PUF : bypass queue at security and pre-boarding provided upon request
- RNS : bypass queue at security and pre-boarding provided upon request
- TLS : Escort from check in to lounge inconsistently provided. Pre-boarding consistently provided
- UIP : no special treatment to report
Germany
- BER : no special treatment to report
- DUS : no special treatment to report
- FRA : no special treatment to report
- HAM: no special treatment to report
- HAJ : No special treatment to report.
- MUC : Reserved area in the lounge, escort from lounge to plane with pre-boarding proposed.
- STR : reserved area in the lounge, pre-boarding
Greece
- ATH : no special treatment to report
- HER : no special treatment to report
- JTR : no special treatment to report
Hungary
- BUD : escort through security from check-in to lounge proposed
Ireland
- DUB : no special treatment to report
Italy
- BLQ : escort from check-in to lounge, and through security to plane.
- BRI : no special treatment to report
- CTA : no special treatment to report
- FCO : no special treatment to report
- FLR : no special treatment to report
- LIN : no special treatment to report
- MXP: pre-boarding granted by request.
- VCE : escort through security from check-in to lounge, pre-boarding with escort from lounge to plane (not always consistently proposed).
- NAP : no special treatment to report
Netherlands
- AMS : see top of the list in "AFKL hubs" for most recent update
Norway
- OSL : no special treatment to report
- TRF : no special treatment to report
- KRS : no special treatment to report
- SVG : no special treatment to report
Poland
- WAW : no special treatment to report
- KRK : no special treatment to report
- GDN : no special treatment to report
Portugal
- LIS : pre-boarding proposed upon request
Russia
- SVO : no special treatment to report
- LED : no special treatment to report
Spain
- AGP : no special treatment to report
- BCN : no special treatment to report
- MAD : no special treatment to report
- PMI : No special treatment to report.
- SVQ : no special treatment to report
- TFS : no special treatment to report
- VLC : no special treatment to report
Sweden
- ARN : no special treatment to report
- GOT : no special treatment to report
Switzerland
- GVA : pre-boarding upon request. Reserved area in the lounge.
- ZRH : No special treatment
United Kingdom
- ABZ : no special treatment to report
- EDI: no special treatment to report
- LHR : no special treatment to report
NORTH AMERICA
Canada
- YUL: Escort from check-in to lounge upon request. Reserved area in lounge, pre-boarding with escort from lounge to plane.
- YYZ : escort on arrival through immigration, consistently offered. / Escort from check-in to lounge and from lounge to airplane
- YQB : escort from checkin to lounge proposed.
- YVR: no special treatment to report
USA
- ATL : no special treatment to report (in connection)
- BOS : escort through security from check-in to lounge, pre-boarding, all consistently provided mostly spontaneously, sometimes upon request. A separate room in the AF lounge is also proposed.
- DTW : no special treatment to report (starting from DTW or in connection)
- IAD : escort through security from check-in to lounge upon request, but inconsistently provided. Reserved area at the lounge + extra attentions from staff (table reserved for night service, etc)
- IAH: no special treatment to report
- JFK (AF only/terminal 1) : reserved table in the dining area of the lounge (upstairs),
- LAX : no special treatment to report
- ORD: On arrival, escort through immigration (not consistently provided). On departure, escort through security to lounge and from lounge to plane (pre-boarding).
- MSP : no special treatment to report, except one case of special DL Elite VIP treatment with expedited immigration and Porshe transfer to/from lounge (not a regular benefit to expect).
- SEA : pre-boarding with escort to plane.
- SFO : reserved area in lounge.
Mexico
- MEX (Terminal 1) : escort through security to lounge with access to dedicated space. Ride from lounge to gate. Sometimes escort on arrival.
CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
- BOG : no special treatment to report
- LIM : escort to lounge, provided spontaneously
- GIG : Pre-boarding upon request.
- GRU : escort in case of short connection upon request, inconsistently provided.
- SCL : no special treatment to report
- EZE : escort to lounge with special crew lane for immigration provided spontanously
ASIA / PACIFIC
- BKK : escort through security from check-in to lounge, upon request but inconsistently proposed. In connection : escort in case of short connection (better to request it before departure).
- BLR: escort from lounge to gate, pre-boarding provided
- BOM : escort from plane to immigration, and from checkin to the lounge
- DEL : no special treatment to report
- HKG : no special treatment to report (escort through security from check-in to lounge is now systematically refused, while provided during the 2 first years of Ulti)
- HND : Arrival : new 09/2023 = escort through immigration. Departure : escort from check-in desk to lounge, proposed spontaneously.
- KIX : Arrival : escort through immigration, wait at baggage claim. Departure : escort from check-in desk to lounge All proposed spontaneously.
- SIN : no special treatment to report
CARIBBEAN & INDIAN OCEAN
- CUR: no special treatment to report, there is no (sky)priority lane for security or immigration, but escort/short track is available for 100 $.
- HAV : at departure, escort from check in counters until security checks. Pre-boarding offered. No escort at arrival. No reserved space in Lounge.
- FDF: No reserved space in Lounge. Pre-boarding upon request at the gate.
- MRU : escort on arrival through immigration. Unknown for departures (no data point)
- PTP: Reserved table in lounge. Pre-boarding upon request at the lounge with escort from lounge to plane.
- RUN: Pre-boarding proposed at check-in and in the lounge, with escort from lounge to plane. Reserved seats in lounge
- SXM: Escort for incoming transit pax (from/to AF flight) through passport controls and security, pre-boarding pro-actively offered for AF departure
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY : no special treatment to report
- DXB : escort from check-in to lounge and from lounge to plane, all upon request, consistently provided. Access to the Ahlan lounge (normally reserved for P pax) instead of Skyteam lounge.
- JED : no special treatment to report
- RUH : no special treatment to report
- IST : no special treatment to report
AFRICA
- AGA: escort from check in to lounge and from lounge to aircraft, provided spontaneously
- CAI : no special treatment to report
- CMN : escort on arrival through immigration (not always consistently provided)
- CPT: escort from counter to lounge, provided spontaneously
- JNB: escort from counter to lounge (no fast track at immigration), provided spontaneously
- LOS : no special treatment to report
- RAK : escort on arrival, upon request (not provided on departure)
- RBA : on departure : escort to lounge and to plane, provided spontaneously.
- TUN : Escort on arrival though immigration provided. Escort from check-in to lounge provided
- ZNZ : no special treatment to report (not even lounge access)
Flying Blue Platinum Ultimate Status
Feb 6, 17, 9:43 am
#181
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: DUS, BRU, POA
Programs: Skyteam E+ (FB Plat.), Latam Black, LH MM, Iberia plus, HH: Diamond, Bonvoy & ALL: Gold
Posts: 966
Feb 16, 17, 3:55 pm
#182
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,263
and so still nothing as of today on FB website about Ultimate and associated benefits...truly unbelievable. 
Feb 17, 17, 9:00 am
#183
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM)
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rotterdam, NL
Programs: Flying Blue (AF/KL)
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For these group they manually had to check if the member meets the requirements for Ultimate.
It should be corrected as of now, i.e. if you do not qualify you should be regular LTPE or if you qualify, LTPE Ultimate.
Stimpy/delanotre has your account been corrected?
Feb 17, 17, 1:02 pm
#185
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FB informed me that there was a glitch in the system (as we know) relating to LTPE members.
For these group they manually had to check if the member meets the requirements for Ultimate.
It should be corrected as of now, i.e. if you do not qualify you should be regular LTPE or if you qualify, LTPE Ultimate.
For these group they manually had to check if the member meets the requirements for Ultimate.
It should be corrected as of now, i.e. if you do not qualify you should be regular LTPE or if you qualify, LTPE Ultimate.
but, as this status is so clear for the rules and the benefits...
Feb 19, 17, 6:56 am
#187
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 334
For the time being it is - as said before - an 'upgrade in service level'. I might learn more later and share.
Cheers
Feb 19, 17, 9:48 am
#188
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What I have personally noticed so far, is a more attentative crew on board (always a personal welcome by the CA) a first choice of food, a seperate reserved seating area at CDG 2F lounge (might partly come from the temp closure of the one at the lower numbered gates) and at entrance of the AMS lounge an offer to prepare a shower for me. Helpdesk etc works 24/7 and as fine as before already.
For the time being it is - as said before - an 'upgrade in service level'. I might learn more later and share.
Cheers
For the time being it is - as said before - an 'upgrade in service level'. I might learn more later and share.
Cheers
For the lounge in CDG, I didn't notice a difference except once or twice where I was proposed to seat in a reserved area, but it was more a personal initiative from the lounge agent whom I already saw a couple of times before at the lounge, rather than a "benefit" linked to what appears on their screen when they scanned my BP. I have to precise that I haven't been at 2F since one of the 2 lounges is closed for renovation.
Feb 19, 17, 11:03 am
#189
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Feb 19, 17, 5:30 pm
#190
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very good iidea. But my bank will not like it
Feb 20, 17, 12:06 am
#191
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,719
What I have personally noticed so far is a more attentative crew on board (always a personal welcome by the CA) a first choice of food, a seperate reserved seating area at CDG 2F lounge (might partly come from the temp closure of the one at the lower numbered gates) and at entrance of the AMS lounge an offer to prepare a shower for me. Helpdesk etc works 24/7 and as fine as before already.
For the time being it is - as said before - an 'upgrade in service level'. I might learn more later and share.
Cheers
For the time being it is - as said before - an 'upgrade in service level'. I might learn more later and share.
Cheers
Keep us posted what else there is, and what you'll learn in the next weeks. I would expect that there is more than what you write (in fact, I hope so as otherwise this at least for me would be too little to consciously shift travel to AFKL)
Just a question on the 2F lounge: where is that reserved area? I am in the lounge now, didn't see anything like that. But then I didn't do a treasure hunt either...
Feb 20, 17, 10:43 am
#192
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 334
Thanks for sharing. Good to have someone who can update this forum with real life experience ^
Keep us posted what else there is, and what you'll learn in the next weeks. I would expect that there is more than what you write (in fact, I hope so as otherwise this at least for me would be too little to consciously shift travel to AFKL)
Just a question on the 2F lounge: where is that reserved area? I am in the lounge now, didn't see anything like that. But then I didn't do a treasure hunt either...
Keep us posted what else there is, and what you'll learn in the next weeks. I would expect that there is more than what you write (in fact, I hope so as otherwise this at least for me would be too little to consciously shift travel to AFKL)
Just a question on the 2F lounge: where is that reserved area? I am in the lounge now, didn't see anything like that. But then I didn't do a treasure hunt either...
Or, when you come down the escolators you normally turn left into the entrance but look right there and you can see red curtains next to what looks like a manintenance door - behind there.
Cheers!
Last edited by travelbits; Feb 20, 17 at 11:47 am
Feb 20, 17, 11:56 am
#193
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On the entrance level around the corner is a second bar unit; there you can walk straight onto the restrooms - it is there on the right.
Or, when you come down the escolators you normally turn left into the entrance but look right there and you can see red curtains next to what looks like a manintenance door - behind there.
Cheers!
Or, when you come down the escolators you normally turn left into the entrance but look right there and you can see red curtains next to what looks like a manintenance door - behind there.
Cheers!
Feb 20, 17, 1:08 pm
#194
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 334
Thanks. I noticed those red curtains this morning when I went up the escalator and was wondering why I had never been to that part of the lounge. Now I know what is behind! I presume it looks the same, except that you can't just use it as a non-ULTI? Who controls access, are you escorted there from the lounge entrance? And does it have its own buffet or do you use the one in the democratic section of the lounge?
Feb 21, 17, 5:39 am
#195
Join Date: Apr 2005
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They sometimes offer random rounds of champagne in the T2F lounge. Recently, the aircraft had a technical issue and we had to change aircraft. Back to the lounge that remained open just for this flight (it was 22, all other flights had left). AF staff asks me if they could bring me anything, I asked if they had Champagne and indeed, they had a bottle that was already opened in the kitchen.
