Skipping a train segment
#76
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Hi,
I've read this thread and also the Air France "Air & Rail" page but am still a bit confused. I am considering traveling in a party of three from SFO-CDG in Business on award tickets with Paris as our final destination. If I add an onward train connection however to, for example, Tours or Reims, the price in miles is quite a bit lower, especially for three passengers total. We would travel with carry on bags only, so in all likelihood there would not be a problem to simply leave the airport at CDG with our hand carried bags, as I understand it.
However, in the case we are somehow required to gate check our bags, can I confirm that any checked baggage would be claimed at the baggage carousel at CDG? In other words, must baggage be claimed at CDG in any case when there is a train connection, or is there an arrangement with SNCF to automatically transfer bags to a train to, in my example, Tours or Reims? To restate, my goal is to leave CDG with our bags.
Many thanks
I've read this thread and also the Air France "Air & Rail" page but am still a bit confused. I am considering traveling in a party of three from SFO-CDG in Business on award tickets with Paris as our final destination. If I add an onward train connection however to, for example, Tours or Reims, the price in miles is quite a bit lower, especially for three passengers total. We would travel with carry on bags only, so in all likelihood there would not be a problem to simply leave the airport at CDG with our hand carried bags, as I understand it.
However, in the case we are somehow required to gate check our bags, can I confirm that any checked baggage would be claimed at the baggage carousel at CDG? In other words, must baggage be claimed at CDG in any case when there is a train connection, or is there an arrangement with SNCF to automatically transfer bags to a train to, in my example, Tours or Reims? To restate, my goal is to leave CDG with our bags.
Many thanks
2) if your hand luggage is gate checked, you will have to retrieve them in CDG as normal luggage.
2) in case of a return ticket, don't forget to go to the train station to retrieve your TGV Air ticket from TGV Air SNCF counter (don't leave CDG straight after having gone through immigration and customs as you say you are planing to do)
#77
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I forgot to mention that in some cases, the ATB train ticket is manually stamped with a wording like "billet composté" or something like this. Next time, I will have a closer look and report.
#78
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1) Air and Rail is only to/from Brussels and Strasbourg. Other destinations are under the TGV Air scheme.
2) if your hand luggage is gate checked, you will have to retrieve them in CDG as normal luggage.
2) in case of a return ticket, don't forget to go to the train station to retrieve your TGV Air ticket from TGV Air SNCF counter (don't leave CDG straight after having gone through immigration and customs as you say you are planing to do)
2) if your hand luggage is gate checked, you will have to retrieve them in CDG as normal luggage.
2) in case of a return ticket, don't forget to go to the train station to retrieve your TGV Air ticket from TGV Air SNCF counter (don't leave CDG straight after having gone through immigration and customs as you say you are planing to do)
Thank you! This would be a one way, so apparently no need to retrieve TGV Air ticket. I did find this on the SNCF website:
If your flight is the first leg of your journey, you must collect your luggage at the airport before you check in at the TGV Air window at Charles de Gaulle airport or at the Massy TGV station (for Orly).
So further confirmation that even if we had to gate check hand bags, we would pick them up at CDG in any case.
thanks
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Erring on the side of extreme caution, you can of of course go and pick up the train ticket if you have time.
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Not a question of if but when, specially if more and more people are dumping last train segments.
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#83
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Another question regarding this topic. For background, I am currently booked on ORD-CDG-ZYR, returning ZYR-CDG-ORD.
Are there any online check-in options for the ZYR-CDG train? Or must I check-in in person at the AF desk at ZYR in order to receive my train ticket? I ask because if I can check-in online, would that be a way to skip the ZYR-CDG train? I only have carry-on luggage and would prefer to go to Paris a day early due to my ZYR-CDG train being very early in the morning. But I don't want my CDG-ORD leg cancelled.
Are there any online check-in options for the ZYR-CDG train? Or must I check-in in person at the AF desk at ZYR in order to receive my train ticket? I ask because if I can check-in online, would that be a way to skip the ZYR-CDG train? I only have carry-on luggage and would prefer to go to Paris a day early due to my ZYR-CDG train being very early in the morning. But I don't want my CDG-ORD leg cancelled.
#84
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Another question regarding this topic. For background, I am currently booked on ORD-CDG-ZYR, returning ZYR-CDG-ORD.
Are there any online check-in options for the ZYR-CDG train? Or must I check-in in person at the AF desk at ZYR in order to receive my train ticket? I ask because if I can check-in online, would that be a way to skip the ZYR-CDG train? I only have carry-on luggage and would prefer to go to Paris a day early due to my ZYR-CDG train being very early in the morning. But I don't want my CDG-ORD leg cancelled.
Are there any online check-in options for the ZYR-CDG train? Or must I check-in in person at the AF desk at ZYR in order to receive my train ticket? I ask because if I can check-in online, would that be a way to skip the ZYR-CDG train? I only have carry-on luggage and would prefer to go to Paris a day early due to my ZYR-CDG train being very early in the morning. But I don't want my CDG-ORD leg cancelled.
#85
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Any recent experiences with ZWE-AMS XP and miles being posted? I've traveled Antwerp-Amsterdam by Thalys as part of my 074 ticket with a connecting flight, but no miles or XPs have been posted. For Brussels-Amsterdam never an issue.
#86
Join Date: Nov 2019
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I have the following booking and want to skip the second leg of trip which is thalys ,does collecting the ticket at AMS suffice, considering I will flying out of Brussels on my return which are all flights.
AUH--> AMS--> ZWE
BRU-->AMS-->AUH
How particular are KLM seeing the stamped ticket of thalys for my return. I see mixed reviews in the forum, has things changed after the court ruling in belgium as I am flying out of brussels. I need to decide on this so help appreciated with someone who has done this.
AUH--> AMS--> ZWE
BRU-->AMS-->AUH
How particular are KLM seeing the stamped ticket of thalys for my return. I see mixed reviews in the forum, has things changed after the court ruling in belgium as I am flying out of brussels. I need to decide on this so help appreciated with someone who has done this.
#90
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A definitive response is something KLM's general conditions can offer you. All FT members can offer you is their experience, and since your itinerary seems to be a bit different from what most people here do (ZYR/ZWE->AMS/CDG->XXX and vice versa)., please give it a try and keep us posted.