Immediate Status upgrades?

Old Jun 27, 13, 3:50 am
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Immediate Status upgrades?

When you reach 15 qualifying flight segments, is your status upgraded to silver immediatly, or will they do this at the end of the year when they check your status?

Thanks for the info!
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Old Jun 27, 13, 4:13 am
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Immediately after point were accredited to your account
So if you were upgraded to silver now, you can enjoy benefit until March 2015.
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Old Jun 27, 13, 4:18 am
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normally a few days for your account to change though.

If your status changes at the outbound to not forget to ask them to re-enter your frequent flier number at check-in to update your status in the system.

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Old Jun 27, 13, 8:47 am
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Immediately after point were accredited to your account
So if you were upgraded to silver now, you can enjoy benefit until March 2015.
Will they keep you silver for 21 months?
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Old Jun 27, 13, 8:52 am
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Will they keep you silver for 21 months?
Yes, unless you earn a higher status level before then.
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Old Jun 27, 13, 9:19 am
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Will they keep you silver for 21 months?
Yes, unless you earn a higher status level before then.
That's nice.. But on 31dec my qualifying flights will be reset right, so if I want to reach gold I have to go to 30 from jan1 till dec 31 2014?
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Old Jun 27, 13, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by guidogh View Post
That's nice.. But on 31dec my qualifying flights will be reset right, so if I want to reach gold I have to go to 30 from jan1 till dec 31 2014?
If you want to reach gold, you have to get to 30 sectors before the end of any year. You can do so this year - there is no restriction on having to wait until next year, and there is no restriction on the number of level upgrades you can attain in one year (if you fly enough, you can go from Ivory, to Silver, to Gold, to Platinum, all in the same calendar year).

Getting to Silver doesn't really help in any way (it's just the "half-way" point to Gold, and means that you only need another 15 sectors in that same year to reach Gold). There is nothing to stop you getting to Gold this year, 2013, if you fly another 15 sectors (for a total of 30) before the end of the year.

And just to clarify - having Silver status in 2014 doesn't mean that flying another 15 sectors in 2014 will get you to Gold. As you correctly stated, your level flights balance will be set to 0 on 1 January next. The 15 sectors you have now won't count at all in 2014. Regardless of what your status is, you must fly the required number of sectors in a single calendar year in order to attain that status - so you have to have 15 sectors flown in a single calendar year to get Silver, and you must have 30 sectors flown in a single calendar year to get Gold.

Whenever you get to a new level, it is valid for the rest of the year in which you attain it, and for all of the following year. So if you reach silver now, you will have silver status for the rest of 2013, and for all of 2014 (and because of the way FB works, they extend the status for the first 3 months of the following year in order to give themselves time to send out the corect cards for the subsequent year) - so you would have Silver until 31 March 2015 as a result of earning Silver on any date in 2013.

Likewise, if you kept flying and earned Gold on any date in 2013, you would have Gold status until 31 March 2015.

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Old Jun 28, 13, 4:16 pm
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That's nice.. But on 31dec my qualifying flights will be reset right, so if I want to reach gold I have to go to 30 from jan1 till dec 31 2014?
If you want to reach gold, you have to get to 30 sectors before the end of any year. You can do so this year - there is no restriction on having to wait until next year, and there is no restriction on the number of level upgrades you can attain in one year (if you fly enough, you can go from Ivory, to Silver, to Gold, to Platinum, all in the same calendar year).

Getting to Silver doesn't really help in any way (it's just the "half-way" point to Gold, and means that you only need another 15 sectors in that same year to reach Gold). There is nothing to stop you getting to Gold this year, 2013, if you fly another 15 sectors (for a total of 30) before the end of the year.

And just to clarify - having Silver status in 2014 doesn't mean that flying another 15 sectors in 2014 will get you to Gold. As you correctly stated, your level flights balance will be set to 0 on 1 January next. The 15 sectors you have now won't count at all in 2014. Regardless of what your status is, you must fly the required number of sectors in a single calendar year in order to attain that status - so you have to have 15 sectors flown in a single calendar year to get Silver, and you must have 30 sectors flown in a single calendar year to get Gold.

Whenever you get to a new level, it is valid for the rest of the year in which you attain it, and for all of the following year. So if you reach silver now, you will have silver status for the rest of 2013, and for all of 2014 (and because of the way FB works, they extend the status for the first 3 months of the following year in order to give themselves time to send out the corect cards for the subsequent year) - so you would have Silver until 31 March 2015 as a result of earning Silver on any date in 2013.

Likewise, if you kept flying and earned Gold on any date in 2013, you would have Gold status until 31 March 2015.
One more thing: KLM sometimes offer traintrips as a leg of a route. Is this considered a qualifying flight. It's an extra stop rigt. For example ZWE-AMS-JFK-AMS-ZWE. ZWE-AMS and AMS-ZWE is train.
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Old Jun 28, 13, 4:26 pm
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Yes, segments operated by Thalys and bought in conjunction with onward KLM flights should count as regular sectors.

Just be sure to keep your train tickets as well as your boarding passes in case these sectors don't post automatically.
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Old Jun 28, 13, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by irishguy28 View Post
Yes, segments operated by Thalys and bought in conjunction with onward KLM flights should count as regular sectors.

Just be sure to keep your train tickets as well as your boarding passes in case these sectors don't post automatically.
They only count if they're shown on your ticket with "KL" 'flight' numbers; if they have the Thalys code (9B), then they don't count.

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Old Jun 28, 13, 5:39 pm
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It's my understanding that Thalys always books under a KL code, and that it was only the much-missed Beneluxtrein (which no longer operates) that booked under the generic 9B train code. With no Fyra or Intercity trains operating between ZWE and AMS, one should now always get a KL-coded Thalys train.
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Old Jun 30, 13, 5:30 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28 View Post
It's my understanding that Thalys always books under a KL code, and that it was only the much-missed Beneluxtrein (which no longer operates) that booked under the generic 9B train code. With no Fyra or Intercity trains operating between ZWE and AMS, one should now always get a KL-coded Thalys train.
No! I recently did a GLA-AMS-BRU r/t: outbound, AMS-BRU on a KL F-70; return, ZYR-AMS (Brussel Zuid - Schiphol) was on Thalys under 9B code. No miles; no segment for this leg.

Conversely, whenever I've had CDG-ZYR train segments, they've always been on a TGV under an AF code - with miles and segments.

But I think you're right regarding ZWE (Antwerpen Centraal) to AMS and v/v.

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