Nov 4, 2013, 1:57 pm
Last edit by: Gajan
Between 1 September 2013 and 31 March 2018 the co-branded Gold & Platinum Flying Blue American Express cards also gave you Level Miles for purchases at AF/KL.
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
- Silver: 15XP;
- Gold: 30 XP
- Platinum: 60 XP
Co-branded American Express cards: France and the Netherlands
Jul 3, 2013, 2:05 pm
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Jul 3, 2013, 2:54 pm
#92
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: for me, it was a post mailing in a real letter, received today...
Jul 4, 2013, 2:05 am
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new T&C available in French applicable Sept 1st 2013:
https://www.americanexpress.com/fr/c...11_09_2013.pdf
it only mentions the annual fee for gold increasing from 140 to 165 euros
nothing about the miles, it is probably a different document dedicated to the partnership
https://www.americanexpress.com/fr/c...11_09_2013.pdf
it only mentions the annual fee for gold increasing from 140 to 165 euros
nothing about the miles, it is probably a different document dedicated to the partnership
Jul 4, 2013, 7:23 am
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would it be too much to ask if you could share a picture or a scan so that everyone can benefit from an information that has not been officially released by American Express but only to your exclusive attention so far ?
Jul 4, 2013, 7:42 am
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All,
Here is a link to the new T&Cs for the Dutch card, per 1 september 2013:
https://web.aexp-static.com/nl/conte...ssSept2013.pdf
Found here:
https://www.americanexpress.com/nl/c...ds_help_tandcs
The gold card will be EUR 170 in the Netherlands.
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
Here is a link to the new T&Cs for the Dutch card, per 1 september 2013:
https://web.aexp-static.com/nl/conte...ssSept2013.pdf
Found here:
https://www.americanexpress.com/nl/c...ds_help_tandcs
The gold card will be EUR 170 in the Netherlands.
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
Jul 4, 2013, 11:50 am
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confirmed
On french TA website:
04/07/2013
A partir du 1er septembre 2013, les avantages des cartes privées
AIR FRANCE KLM - AMERICAN EXPRESS évoluent.
- Chaque paiement de billets d´avion Air France et KLM réalisé avec la carte
AIR FRANCE KLM American Express Gold ou Platinum générera des Miles Statut sur le compte Flying Blue de l´adhérent.
- De plus, le bon de réduction de bienvenue de 50 € sera également valable sur les vols domestiques, en plus des vols internationaux. pour un montant minimum d´achat de 100 € HT.
- La cotisation annuelle de la carte AIR FRANCE KLM AMERICAN EXPRESS Gold passera ŕ 165 €, la premičre année de souscription restant gratuite.
04/07/2013
A partir du 1er septembre 2013, les avantages des cartes privées
AIR FRANCE KLM - AMERICAN EXPRESS évoluent.
- Chaque paiement de billets d´avion Air France et KLM réalisé avec la carte
AIR FRANCE KLM American Express Gold ou Platinum générera des Miles Statut sur le compte Flying Blue de l´adhérent.
- De plus, le bon de réduction de bienvenue de 50 € sera également valable sur les vols domestiques, en plus des vols internationaux. pour un montant minimum d´achat de 100 € HT.
- La cotisation annuelle de la carte AIR FRANCE KLM AMERICAN EXPRESS Gold passera ŕ 165 €, la premičre année de souscription restant gratuite.
Jul 4, 2013, 1:15 pm
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So no increase for the AFKL Platinum AMEX?
Jul 4, 2013, 3:21 pm
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only the Gold will have its fee increase
Silver and Plat remain at the same prices
new T&C for French cards here: https://www.americanexpress.com/fr/c...11_09_2013.pdf
Silver and Plat remain at the same prices
new T&C for French cards here: https://www.americanexpress.com/fr/c...11_09_2013.pdf
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Jul 4, 2013, 3:28 pm
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Further updates to co-branded Amex cards (NL and FR)
Ok, good news.
Jul 5, 2013, 1:32 am
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I think that all transaction, regarding flights, with AF/KL should be concerned, as it is mentionned today (since 2012) on FB account "AF-KL-AMEX CARD AF-KL AIRLINE MILES "
Jul 5, 2013, 2:40 am
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non-airlines services would be charged by third parties
these are hosted by AF-KLM websites but not managed by the them
it seems that for example, hotel reservations are managed by booking.com
anyway, it's easy to differenciate airline tickets from the rest: different codes in the GDS for each service
Jul 5, 2013, 3:11 am
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AMEX used to detail all AFKL transactions, including flight details, on my activity report. So they have the info. I doubt that they will make any distinction and will simply credit status miles for any ticket that is purchased on AF or KL stock. What will happen with HOP is an interesting question.
Jul 6, 2013, 1:07 am
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AMEX used to detail all AFKL transactions, including flight details, on my activity report. So they have the info. I doubt that they will make any distinction and will simply credit status miles for any ticket that is purchased on AF or KL stock. What will happen with HOP is an interesting question.
For HOP, I guess it will depend from where you bought the ticket (AFKL or HOP! directly). My experience is that any HOP! Itinerary bought in AF website is billed as a regular AF transaction with a 057 ticket.
Jul 6, 2013, 8:13 am
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AMEX used to detail all AFKL transactions, including flight details, on my activity report. So they have the info. I doubt that they will make any distinction and will simply credit status miles for any ticket that is purchased on AF or KL stock. What will happen with HOP is an interesting question.
The interesting thing is that the merchant does not fully control the description. Amex used to have a very outdated translation for "ATH", and regardless of who the payment was made to...they would all contain that wrong info on the statement.
Therefore I suspect that airlines actually charge the card with a description like "KL1234,KL5678;XAN MR DRIOS;074123456789". Amex then parses that info and makes it into a readable (and formatted) description.
More on topic though in my experiences any transactions made by AFKL count. Even buying gift cards does.
Jul 20, 2013, 6:14 am
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only the Gold will have its fee increase
Silver and Plat remain at the same prices
new T&C for French cards here: https://www.americanexpress.com/fr/c...11_09_2013.pdf
Silver and Plat remain at the same prices
new T&C for French cards here: https://www.americanexpress.com/fr/c...11_09_2013.pdf