Nov 4, 2013, 1:57 pm
Last edit by: Gajan
Between 1 September 2013 and 31 March 2018 the co-branded Gold & Platinum Flying Blue American Express cards also gave you Level Miles for purchases at AF/KL.
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
- Silver: 15XP;
- Gold: 30 XP
- Platinum: 60 XP
Co-branded American Express cards: France and the Netherlands
Aug 18, 2020, 3:54 am
#766
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,339
Interesting! Now if Apple only releases the iPhone 12 with features as rumored it may be worth switching back..
I've always wondered how that works though. When you add your Amex to Apple Pay and use that to pay a merchant...how does the merchant get paid? By Apple or Amex?
Reason being that Amex is not supported in many places, but Apple pay is. I'm wondering if this could be used to still pay with Amex at places where the card would otherwise not be accepted. It would be a great hack to allow paying daily groceries with Amex, rather than Maestro as that's the only card type accepted in most supermarkets in NL.. (Outside of randstad at least)
I've always wondered how that works though. When you add your Amex to Apple Pay and use that to pay a merchant...how does the merchant get paid? By Apple or Amex?
Reason being that Amex is not supported in many places, but Apple pay is. I'm wondering if this could be used to still pay with Amex at places where the card would otherwise not be accepted. It would be a great hack to allow paying daily groceries with Amex, rather than Maestro as that's the only card type accepted in most supermarkets in NL.. (Outside of randstad at least)
Aug 18, 2020, 10:17 am
#767
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: CW
Programs: Marriott titanium, KL/AF FB Ulti
Posts: 644
Interesting! Now if Apple only releases the iPhone 12 with features as rumored it may be worth switching back..
I've always wondered how that works though. When you add your Amex to Apple Pay and use that to pay a merchant...how does the merchant get paid? By Apple or Amex?
Reason being that Amex is not supported in many places, but Apple pay is. I'm wondering if this could be used to still pay with Amex at places where the card would otherwise not be accepted. It would be a great hack to allow paying daily groceries with Amex, rather than Maestro as that's the only card type accepted in most supermarkets in NL.. (Outside of randstad at least)
I've always wondered how that works though. When you add your Amex to Apple Pay and use that to pay a merchant...how does the merchant get paid? By Apple or Amex?
Reason being that Amex is not supported in many places, but Apple pay is. I'm wondering if this could be used to still pay with Amex at places where the card would otherwise not be accepted. It would be a great hack to allow paying daily groceries with Amex, rather than Maestro as that's the only card type accepted in most supermarkets in NL.. (Outside of randstad at least)
Aug 18, 2020, 11:54 am
#768
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Correct. And, unfortunately, most terminals accepting Amex and contactless Visa payment do not accept Amex Apple Pay or even physical Amex contactless card. At least this is true in Europe.
Aug 18, 2020, 3:08 pm
#769
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: France
Programs: FB Plat for Life, UAMP, BAEC, Accor ALL Platinum, Marriott silver, Hilton, Meliá silver.
Posts: 3,119
Amex told me that the reason was that the terminals needed to be updated and they were in the process of contacting the merchants to tell them about it.
Aug 18, 2020, 11:45 pm
#770
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Aug 19, 2020, 1:20 am
#771
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: France
Programs: FB Plat for Life, UAMP, BAEC, Accor ALL Platinum, Marriott silver, Hilton, Meliá silver.
Posts: 3,119
Aug 19, 2020, 2:22 am
#772
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: mostly not far from AMS, otherwise NUE
Programs: FB Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,381
I can only speak for NL, but over the last few weeks I've had a 100% success rate with paying contactless with AMEX, including twice via Apple Pay yesterday.
Aug 19, 2020, 5:52 pm
#773
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: aegean gold , klm explorer
Posts: 508
It keeps improving. Those mobile devices that street vendors and the like use also accept amex.
Aug 20, 2020, 8:19 am
#774
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: CW
Programs: Marriott titanium, KL/AF FB Ulti
Posts: 644
Some other might have noticed it already, but Apple Pay (at least for the Dutch cards), shows transactions with a (slightly) different merchant name and in case transactions are not in euros, Apple shows the amount without additional Amex charges. Apple also shows authorisations on your card, where Amex hides them in their app or monthly overviews.
Aug 21, 2020, 2:08 pm
#775
Join Date: Dec 2011
Programs: FB Gold • LH Senator • BA Silver • ITA Premium
Posts: 216
Interesting! Now if Apple only releases the iPhone 12 with features as rumored it may be worth switching back..
I've always wondered how that works though. When you add your Amex to Apple Pay and use that to pay a merchant...how does the merchant get paid? By Apple or Amex?
Reason being that Amex is not supported in many places, but Apple pay is. I'm wondering if this could be used to still pay with Amex at places where the card would otherwise not be accepted. It would be a great hack to allow paying daily groceries with Amex, rather than Maestro as that's the only card type accepted in most supermarkets in NL.. (Outside of randstad at least)
I've always wondered how that works though. When you add your Amex to Apple Pay and use that to pay a merchant...how does the merchant get paid? By Apple or Amex?
Reason being that Amex is not supported in many places, but Apple pay is. I'm wondering if this could be used to still pay with Amex at places where the card would otherwise not be accepted. It would be a great hack to allow paying daily groceries with Amex, rather than Maestro as that's the only card type accepted in most supermarkets in NL.. (Outside of randstad at least)
But, I can suggest you, there are many prepaid card (mastercard) that you can charge by amex with a little fee... one of them is skrill.
Sep 29, 2020, 2:56 am
#776
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: NE England
Programs: BA, KLM
Posts: 84
Did you call AMEX NL and ask them for a discount and did they offer this without much fuss? Also does anyone know if the Comfort seats my wife has booked for free with her Platinum Partner card, will then be charged somehow if I downgrade to Gold, and therefore she no longer has a Partner Platinum card?
Sep 29, 2020, 5:46 am
#777
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: London / Amsterdam
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 223
Sep 29, 2020, 6:49 am
#778
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Paris
Programs: AA LT Plat (4m+), AF Plat, A3 Gold, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat/Ambassador
Posts: 2,648
Any experiences in France?
Nov 30, 2020, 9:49 am
#780
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: aegean gold , klm explorer
Posts: 508
Any luck getting gold membership fee lowered?