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jmbfrance Jul 27, 2012 9:27 am

Upgrade with miles
 
Dear friends,


I cannot figure out what booking class may be upgraded from PV to Biz when the first segment is an european one but not french (I mean FCO/CDG, for instance).

orbitmic Jul 27, 2012 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by jmbfrance (Post 19012330)
Dear friends,


I cannot figure out what booking class may be upgraded from PV to Biz when the first segment is an european one but not french (I mean FCO/CDG, for instance).

I believe S and W (and not A) but would prefer someone to confirm!

ExpatSomchai Jul 27, 2012 12:52 pm

All your questions answered

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hl=en_US#gid=0

orbitmic Jul 27, 2012 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by ExpatSomchai (Post 19013607)

Actually if I read it correctly, not really - it only mentions which economy buckets can be upgraded but not which Premium Economy or Affaires ones can be (some are excluded too: I'm sure about A for PE but wanted to double check it is the only one. Similarly Z and I are not upgradeable business fares).

Goldorak Jul 27, 2012 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by orbitmic (Post 19013574)
I believe S and W (and not A) but would prefer someone to confirm!

You are correct

cityflyer369 Jul 27, 2012 5:51 pm

I can confirm, too,

africanfrog Jul 29, 2012 11:06 am

I did manage to upgrade from A to biz for 19500 miles jnb cdg three weeks ago.
Was done at the counter manually as flight was about to close.

cityflyer369 Jul 29, 2012 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by africanfrog (Post 19022666)
I did manage to upgrade from A to biz for 19500 miles jnb cdg three weeks ago.
Was done at the counter manually as flight was about to close.

Do they now have last-minute upgrades from lower fare classes similar to KL or was it a mistake?

africanfrog Jul 30, 2012 2:00 am


Originally Posted by cityflyer369 (Post 19022997)
Do they now have last-minute upgrades from lower fare classes similar to KL or was it a mistake?

Not sure. Maybe the computer saw the w connection to Casablanca and thought the entire trip was in w. don't know. Was all done with a smile.
J

redtop43 Jul 31, 2012 6:25 am

Paid Upgrades On Award Ticket
 
Mrs. Redtop and I are flying separately to Europe on DL awards on AF; she is flying JFK-CDG on August 6; I am flying IAD-CDG on August 22.

Her flight is a week away, and I just got an offer to upgrade to PV for 139 euros and to Affaires for 329. A few questions:

1) From what I see on the various websites, it looks like PV is about the equivalent of domestic F. Is that true?
2) My flight is on an A380. Does that make it less likely/impossible that I would get an upgrade opportunity?
3) Her email says "There are a limited number of seats available for this offer... we will contact you within 5 days of departure to inform you whether we were able to fill your request." With her flight being 6 days away - does this hint that if we ask, we'll get it? (Not that it matters much, since we'd find out by tomorrow.) I'd most likely upgrade her to PV.

africanfrog Jul 31, 2012 10:16 am


Originally Posted by redtop43 (Post 19032510)
Mrs. Redtop and I are flying separately to Europe on DL awards on AF; she is flying JFK-CDG on August 6; I am flying IAD-CDG on August 22.

Her flight is a week away, and I just got an offer to upgrade to PV for 139 euros and to Affaires for 329. A few questions:

1) From what I see on the various websites, it looks like PV is about the equivalent of domestic F. Is that true?
2) My flight is on an A380. Does that make it less likely/impossible that I would get an upgrade opportunity?
3) Her email says "There are a limited number of seats available for this offer... we will contact you within 5 days of departure to inform you whether we were able to fill your request." With her flight being 6 days away - does this hint that if we ask, we'll get it? (Not that it matters much, since we'd find out by tomorrow.) I'd most likely upgrade her to PV.

1 pv is wider seat in static shell which I think is fine for westbound transatlantic but unless you plan on watching movies all night on eastbound, forget it. Impossible to sleep in and Eco is just as good.
2 if you want to pamper swambo then get the biz seat on the a380. Worth it.

Jg

cityflyer369 Jul 31, 2012 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by africanfrog (Post 19033787)

Originally Posted by redtop43 (Post 19032510)
Mrs. Redtop and I are flying separately to Europe on DL awards on AF; she is flying JFK-CDG on August 6; I am flying IAD-CDG on August 22.

Her flight is a week away, and I just got an offer to upgrade to PV for 139 euros and to Affaires for 329. A few questions:

1) From what I see on the various websites, it looks like PV is about the equivalent of domestic F. Is that true?
2) My flight is on an A380. Does that make it less likely/impossible that I would get an upgrade opportunity?
3) Her email says "There are a limited number of seats available for this offer... we will contact you within 5 days of departure to inform you whether we were able to fill your request." With her flight being 6 days away - does this hint that if we ask, we'll get it? (Not that it matters much, since we'd find out by tomorrow.) I'd most likely upgrade her to PV.

1 pv is wider seat in static shell which I think is fine for westbound transatlantic but unless you plan on watching movies all night on eastbound, forget it. Impossible to sleep in and Eco is just as good.
2 if you want to pamper swambo then get the biz seat on the a380. Worth it.

Jg

I can sleep on the seat much better than in Economy, but I guess it bery much depends on your typical sleeping position.
That said, I would go for Business.

orbitmic Jul 31, 2012 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by redtop43 (Post 19032510)
1) From what I see on the various websites, it looks like PV is about the equivalent of domestic F. Is that true?

No it's quite different (as others mentioned, fixed shell, etc). Quite a few threads available if you need details.


Originally Posted by redtop43 (Post 19032510)
2) My flight is on an A380. Does that make it less likely/impossible that I would get an upgrade opportunity?.

Not really. It's mostly a question of loads, some people received the offer on all aircraft types but you don't receive them every time.


Originally Posted by redtop43 (Post 19032510)
3) Her email says "There are a limited number of seats available for this offer... we will contact you within 5 days of departure to inform you whether we were able to fill your request." With her flight being 6 days away - does this hint that if we ask, we'll get it? (Not that it matters much, since we'd find out by tomorrow.) I'd most likely upgrade her to PV.

Not particularly, the email is always sent at the same time (just after a week from the flight date). This being said, many people who have answered positively ended up getting their paid upgrade.

Victor88 Aug 1, 2012 8:48 am


Originally Posted by cityflyer369 (Post 19022997)
Do they now have last-minute upgrades from lower fare classes similar to KL or was it a mistake?

Can you explain the criteria for last minute upgrades with miles from lower fare classes on KL? Is it day of departure only or once online checkin opens?

orbitmic Aug 1, 2012 8:55 am


Originally Posted by Victor88 (Post 19039832)
Can you explain the criteria for last minute upgrades with miles from lower fare classes on KL? Is it day of departure only or once online checkin opens?

At the airport on day of departure from AMS only, cash (fixed sliding scale depending on original booking class) + miles (the regular amount).


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