Using Award Miles to meet Elite status threshold
Jan 10, 2011, 3:41 am
#31
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To be precise, I was not talking about status match but nomination.
Example :
- FB Plat member gives his status to a fellow through Dutch Amex
- It happens fellow is a United 1K who has hit the 175K EQM threshold therefore could give a MP member 1P status (*A Gold)
- 1P is given to FB Plat
Conclusion : both are ST Elite Plus and *A Gold.
Example :
- FB Plat member gives his status to a fellow through Dutch Amex
- It happens fellow is a United 1K who has hit the 175K EQM threshold therefore could give a MP member 1P status (*A Gold)
- 1P is given to FB Plat
Conclusion : both are ST Elite Plus and *A Gold.
Jan 10, 2011, 3:52 am
#33
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The Coupon Connection maybe? 
Jan 19, 2011, 3:37 am
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Jan 19, 2011, 12:23 pm
#35
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Basically what I have done in the past is order the extra cards on their name, but let them be shipped to my own address. Their Flying Blue profile at klm.com or airfrance.com will be upgraded to the new status, and I keep the extra cards home to make sure they don't 'accidentally' use it to purchase stuff.
In fact they wont even find out the card #. Plus the cards will, of course, not be activated (= not usable for payments). The upgrade at Flying Blue is enough for them to use the lounges and so on.
In fact they wont even find out the card #. Plus the cards will, of course, not be activated (= not usable for payments). The upgrade at Flying Blue is enough for them to use the lounges and so on.
In theory how would this affect my own Ivory FB Amex? The status of the secondary card will overrule my primary card when flying? Does this give me a new FB number or will it add a note to my existing FB number? 
Jan 19, 2011, 3:10 pm
#36
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That sounds good! Anyone here with gold or platinum status that likes to help me out? In theory how would this affect my own Ivory FB Amex? The status of the secondary card will overrule my primary card when flying? Does this give me a new FB number or will it add a note to my existing FB number?
In theory how would this affect my own Ivory FB Amex? The status of the secondary card will overrule my primary card when flying? Does this give me a new FB number or will it add a note to my existing FB number? You can get a new FB number and use the status when flying and book awards using your Ivory account.
Gajan
Jan 20, 2011, 12:34 am
#37
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That sounds good! Anyone here with gold or platinum status that likes to help me out? In theory how would this affect my own Ivory FB Amex? The status of the secondary card will overrule my primary card when flying? Does this give me a new FB number or will it add a note to my existing FB number?
In theory how would this affect my own Ivory FB Amex? The status of the secondary card will overrule my primary card when flying? Does this give me a new FB number or will it add a note to my existing FB number? I know that's not what you want to do, but for others this warning:
And there is another "problem". As secondary cardholder you get the status of the main cardholder. So if you (ivory-member) -as primary cardholder- happens to accept a platinum-member as secondary cardholder, this poor guy will loose his status immediately...
Jan 20, 2011, 1:13 am
#38
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The only situation which would be available is that KLeM would obtain a second FB number which would have the PE/GE status and his own FB number coupled to his own Ivory American Express.
Jan 20, 2011, 2:51 am
#39
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I think KLeM wants some PE/GE to gift him/her the status through the American Express thus lifting KLem's status to PE/GE. This would lead to American Express cancelling his/her Ivory American Express.
The only situation which would be available is that KLeM would obtain a second FB number which would have the PE/GE status and his own FB number coupled to his own Ivory American Express.
The only situation which would be available is that KLeM would obtain a second FB number which would have the PE/GE status and his own FB number coupled to his own Ivory American Express.
And you are only allowed to have one FB number per person.
Jan 20, 2011, 9:14 am
#40
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I think KLeM wants some PE/GE to gift him/her the status through the American Express thus lifting KLem's status to PE/GE. This would lead to American Express cancelling his/her Ivory American Express.
The only situation which would be available is that KLeM would obtain a second FB number which would have the PE/GE status and his own FB number coupled to his own Ivory American Express.
The only situation which would be available is that KLeM would obtain a second FB number which would have the PE/GE status and his own FB number coupled to his own Ivory American Express.
@Brobbel: Why anyone would want a secondary FB Amex Ivory is beyond me, so the risk of a FB plat losing his status over this is very low.
Jan 21, 2011, 6:52 am
#41
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Thanks for the answers! There's one last option, changing my FB Amex to regular Amex while pairing my own FB number to the FB Plats secondary Amex card. Been saving my miles anyway so switching to Amex Rewards is fine... I even booked three normal fare flights recently (something I hadn't done since january 2008)...
@Brobbel: Why anyone would want a secondary FB Amex Ivory is beyond me, so the risk of a FB plat losing his status over this is very low.
@Brobbel: Why anyone would want a secondary FB Amex Ivory is beyond me, so the risk of a FB plat losing his status over this is very low.
And some years ago someone was Plat, partner was Plat also. He softlanded to Gold, while his partner earned enough miles for Plat. They found out that the partner was downgraded to Gold also, just because of the Amex. And that was not what they wanted... So this wasn't a downgrade to Ivory, but you have the picture.
Jan 21, 2011, 8:27 am
#42
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When BD were still active in the Dutch market, you could have just shown them your FB card, and they'd have given you a nice shiny *G (for FB Plats and FB Golds).
Last edited by irishguy28; Jan 24, 2011 at 3:05 am Reason: wrong status match details!
Jan 21, 2011, 2:28 pm
#43
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Continental is also pretty good, only they have recently changed their status match to a promo. You get the status for 90 days first in which you need to earn at least XXK miles for the status to become permanent.
Gajan
Jan 22, 2011, 1:51 am
#44
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Ah, rats!! That's exactly the UA way (so probably pre-merger change). In the UA case you even had to fly the XXk miles with UA ONLY and not any *A partner. Horrible!
Jan 22, 2011, 2:57 am
#45
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Diamond Club (DC) members (BD FFP program) have been automatically transferred to M&M in several countries (e.g. Neth), so there can be no status match for Dutch and several other nationals. They have to get a status match by LH. France is still a country where DC is valid.
