AF flight from Rio missing [merged]

Jun 2, 2009, 5:44 am

#421

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacha

I also had a friend of 20 years on this flight, along with his fiancee. tell your loved ones that you care for them.

my condolences to any person close to anyone involved....

I am so, so very sorry for your loss.

May you take some comfort in knowing they are at peace together.

Jun 2, 2009, 5:49 am

#422

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chasbondy

Is it true that they ruled out highjacking/terrorism at the very same time they announced they did not know what happened to the plane???

It's way too early to rule out anything.

Jun 2, 2009, 5:51 am

#423

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chasbondy

Is it true that they ruled out highjacking/terrorism at the very same time they announced they did not know what happened to the plane??? Do they automatically announce what they want you to hear, instead of the truth that they really still have no idea if foul play is at hand here.

The French Defense Minister, Hervé Morin, said this morning that they are not yet eliminating any possible hypotheses.

Jun 2, 2009, 5:51 am

#424

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chasbondy

The statements I have read in French from AF spokespeople and French aviation authorities seem to indicate that a highjacking was highly unlikely, not that they have ruled it out.

Sarkozy is quoted this morning by AFP as saying "nothing is being ruled out."

Jun 2, 2009, 5:57 am

#425

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List of last 25 flights operated by this aircraft

All flights from this aircraft (latest 25)
Contacted [UTC] Callsign Flightnumber Routing Registration Operator Type
2009/05/31 21:53 AF0447 AF0447 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/31 08:36 AF0444 AF0444 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/31 02:10 AFR191 AF0191 BLR-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/30 08:30 AF0192 AF0192 CDG-BLR F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/29 22:18 AF0365 AF0365 PHL-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/29 12:11 AFR366 AF0366 CDG-PHL F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/29 07:02 AF0503 AF0503 CAI-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/28 12:25 AFR508 AF0508 CDG-CAI F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/28 06:34 AFR191 AF0191 BLR-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/27 10:40 AF0192 AF0192 CDG-BLR F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/27 04:14 AFR191 AF0191 BLR-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/26 08:57 AF0192 AF0192 CDG-BLR F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/25 06:10 AFR503 AF0503 CAI-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/24 12:22 AFR508 AF0508 CDG-CAI F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/24 02:04 AF0377 AF0377 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/23 12:31 AF0378 AF0378 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/23 06:27 AFR011 AF0011 JFK-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/22 14:58 AFR010 AF0010 CDG-JFK F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/22 10:18 AFR561 AF0561 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/21 15:11 AFR562 AF0562 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/19 10:38 AFR561 AF0561 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/18 14:59 AF0562 AF0562 F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/17 12:49 AFR529 AF0529 DXB-CDG F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/16 22:01 AFR530 AF0530 CDG-DXB F-GZCP Air France A332
2009/05/16 21:46 AFR530 AF0530 CDG-DXB F-GZCP Air France A332

Jun 2, 2009, 6:04 am

#426

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LH738

New information provided by sources within Air France suggests, that the ACARS messages of system failures started to arrive at 02:10Z indicating, that the autopilot had disengaged and the fly by wire system had changed to alternate law. Between 02:11Z and 02:13Z a flurry of messages regarding ADIRU and ISIS faults arrived, at 02:13Z PRIM 1 and SEC 1 faults were indicated, at 02:14Z the last message received was an advisory regarding cabin vertical speed. That sequence of messages could not be independently verified.
From: http://avherald.com/h?article=41a81ef1&opt=0

Quite interesting. Even more interesting is the link to QF72, even though this was a 333.

Jun 2, 2009, 6:42 am

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Senegal authorities announced on Tuesday the finding of the remains of a plane in Senegal’s territorial waters, La Stampa informs. The remains are most likely to belong to the Air France Airbus that disappeared above the Atlantic Ocean on the flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, according to Senegal’s authorities.
From: http://english.hotnews.ro/stiri-top_...were-found.htm

Jun 2, 2009, 6:42 am

#428

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CNN reporting that possible wreckage has been found.

Breaking News Wreckage has been found in the Atlantic Ocean that could have come from a missing Air France jet, Brazilian officials say.

Jun 2, 2009, 6:44 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LH738

The Brazilian media are reporting airline seats have been sighted from the air floating in the water but as yet have not been recovered.

"Teriam sido vistos uma poltrona, uma boia laranja, um tambor, objetos brancos, além de mancha de óleo e querosene" www.globo.com

... there were sightings of a seat, an orange buoy, a drum, white things, amongst an oil slick

Last edited by James S; Jun 2, 2009 at 6:49 am

Jun 2, 2009, 6:46 am

#430

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The Guardian and the BBC are also reporting breaking news that wreckage may have been found.

Jun 2, 2009, 6:55 am

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8079122.stm:

Quote:

Brazilian aircraft searching for an Air France jet which went missing with 228 people aboard in an Atlantic storm have spotted debris on the ocean.

Plane seats and other items were sighted 650km (400 miles) north-east of Brazil's Fernando do Noronha island, the Brazilian air force said.

It could not be immediately confirmed that the debris came from the Airbus.

The jet was heading from Brazil to Paris when it vanished about four hours into its flight, early on Monday.

Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral said the seats had been spotted by search planes early on Tuesday morning.

Also spotted were small white pieces of debris, material that may be metallic and signs of oil and kerosene, which is used as jet fuel.

Jun 2, 2009, 6:59 am

#432

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Debris has been spotted:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8079122.stm

ETA: You beat me to it!

Jun 2, 2009, 7:22 am

#433

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If Brazilian air force has found debris / wreckage, what did the Senegalese find?

Jun 2, 2009, 7:26 am

#434

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ELAL

Can I ask where you got this? I'd like to see if I can look back about another month or so......I was on AF366 during the end of April on a 330.....if it was the same aircraft of course it will be a very sobering thought. Looks like my odds are about 1 in 15.

Jun 2, 2009, 7:31 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outbound

Hi,

My wifes sister was working as flight attendant in the flight. I called AF around 16hrs GMT monday and then got a call back 20min later confirming that Clara was working on that flight. After that we have not heard anything more. Claras father has travelled to Paris to the crisis center. That´s all that we know.

/Outbound

I'm so sorry to hear this. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

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