AF flight from Rio missing [merged]
Jun 1, 2009, 9:54 am
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Condolences from a BA Crew member to my Air France colleagues and missing persons families.
Prayers said in my thoughts for you.
Prayers said in my thoughts for you.
Jun 1, 2009, 9:55 am
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France 24 reports
If that turns out to be true, then the aiplane must have broken into pices while mid-air.
Hower, for the moment being, there are only rumor and speculation around.
The mysterious disappearance was first reported by air traffic controllers who reported the flight had dropped off radar screens.
Hower, for the moment being, there are only rumor and speculation around.
Jun 1, 2009, 9:57 am
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Reading this thread, in its entirety, is very interesting. Some of the speculation in the first hour or two, by people on these boards, make the press sound responsible, by comparison.
Jun 1, 2009, 9:58 am
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Jun 1, 2009, 9:59 am
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In addition, the following has just come through:
RIO DE JANEIRO (Dow Jones)--Erich Heine, president of CSA, a steel mill joint-venture project of Brazilian mining giant Vale S.A. (VALE) and Germany's ThyssenKrupp, was on board the Air France airline that went missing, the Estado News Agency reported Monday.
RIO DE JANEIRO (Dow Jones)--Erich Heine, president of CSA, a steel mill joint-venture project of Brazilian mining giant Vale S.A. (VALE) and Germany's ThyssenKrupp, was on board the Air France airline that went missing, the Estado News Agency reported Monday.
Jun 1, 2009, 9:59 am
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A majority of Brazilians, at least 40 Frenchs and 20 Germans were among the passengers on the Airbus A330 disappeared Monday between Rio de Janeiro and Paris, said the French Minister for Transport, Jean-Louis Borloo.
"There is a majority of Brazilians, between 40 and 60 French, 25 Germans and on issues identified at this time," said to the AFP Mr Borloo.
Six Danish, five Italians, three Moroccans and two Lebanese were also among the passengers, according to various sources. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown expressed his fear that some British passengers were also in the plane
source: Le Point
"There is a majority of Brazilians, between 40 and 60 French, 25 Germans and on issues identified at this time," said to the AFP Mr Borloo.
Six Danish, five Italians, three Moroccans and two Lebanese were also among the passengers, according to various sources. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown expressed his fear that some British passengers were also in the plane
source: Le Point
PARIS (AFP)--Most of the 228 people on board an Air France-KLM (AF.FR) airliner missing over the Atlantic are Brazilian, while at least 40 are French and 20 are German, a French minister said Monday.
Separately, officials from other countries said it was believed that there were six Danes, five Italians, three Moroccans, two Lebanese and a Portuguese among the passengers. Officials haven't held out much hope for survivors.
Jun 1, 2009, 10:02 am
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Terrible news. Keep hoping that against all odds they somehow made it.
Question for the knowledgeable: How is it possible that there is no signal from the aircraft? Is there anything besides the transponder that would be useful in identifying its position? Is the black box capable of transmitting its location?
As for the A330, wasn't this the type of aircraft that was involved in the AA accident in November 2001? Not that it has any relevance to this case, just curious since some people mentioned that this aircraft type has a perfect safety record.
My heart goes out to these poor people who were on board and their families.
Question for the knowledgeable: How is it possible that there is no signal from the aircraft? Is there anything besides the transponder that would be useful in identifying its position? Is the black box capable of transmitting its location?
As for the A330, wasn't this the type of aircraft that was involved in the AA accident in November 2001? Not that it has any relevance to this case, just curious since some people mentioned that this aircraft type has a perfect safety record.
My heart goes out to these poor people who were on board and their families.
Jun 1, 2009, 10:02 am
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Just for the record: Pan Am 214 was hit by lightning on December 08, 1963 and crashed mid-air as a result of this. Details can be found at Aviation Saftey Net.
Jun 1, 2009, 10:04 am
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It was LGA and they had the luxury of landing on the relatively placid Hudson River. Landing on open water where there is motion on the surface is a MUCH riskier proposition and much less likely to happen successfully. The plane on the Hudson also had the advantage of full operations of their systems, other than the engines. At this point it sounds like the reason this plane went down is because they didn't have control of those systems.
Truly a sad day in the aviation world.
Jun 1, 2009, 10:05 am
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No, that was an A300-600R. The A330 is completely different design, probably having more in common with an A320 than an A300.
Jun 1, 2009, 10:06 am
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Just for the record: Pan Am 214 was hit by lightning on December 08, 1963 and crashed mid-air as a result of this. Details can be found at Aviation Saftey Net.
Jun 1, 2009, 10:06 am
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Which gives me the opportunity of adding my voice to the prayers for all involved. It does not seem to have been a good 12 months.
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Jun 1, 2009, 10:08 am
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Just for the record: Pan Am 214 was hit by lightning on December 08, 1963 and crashed mid-air as a result of this. Details can be found at Aviation Saftey Net.