How can I find out which NEV version my flight is/should I go DL instead?

Old Dec 4, 08, 9:39 am
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How can I find out which NEV version my flight is/should I go DL instead?

Life is tough and I won't be able to avoid taking AF or an AF codeshare going from Paris to NYC this weekend. Paid Business Class. I've had an unimpressive trip with them some weeks ago.

My main concern is the seat: I'd like to make sure I am not in one of those C class seats where I am sliding down to the floor. IIRC only the NEV2 and NEV3 seats have the "foot stop", right? How can I find out which NEV version my flight will be? Alternatively, how is the flight on DL metal? Their seats are quite nice too I hear. CO and AA aren't options for ticketing reasons.

Thanks for sharing any experience
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Old Dec 4, 08, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by creber View Post
IIRC only the NEV2 and NEV3 seats have the "foot stop", right?
Wrong, only NEV 3 seats have been fitted with the famous foot stopper



How can I find out which NEV version my flight will be?
You cannot, except that, AFAIK, only 772 & 77W are equipped with NEV3 seats (CDG-JFK: AF22, AF6 and AF8)

Alternatively, how is the flight on DL metal?
No DL metal anymore on CDG-JFK, only AF metal
From France, DL metal can only be found on LYS-JFK and NCE-JFK
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Old Dec 4, 08, 10:04 am
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Thanks Malonda! That's all the info I needed!
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Old Dec 4, 08, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Malonda View Post
From France, DL metal can only be found on LYS-JFK and NCE-JFK
I assume you mean to JFK; DL metal still operates from CDG to ATL, CVG, and SLC.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta View Post
I assume you mean to JFK; DL metal still operates from CDG to ATL, CVG, and SLC.
Sure I do, but thank you for the additional information!
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Old Dec 4, 08, 8:54 pm
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How can somebody think about preferring DL metal over AF? Might be some of the older seats are not the absolute best at AF, but DL seats are a nightmare. I would accept DL only on day flights. Never on night flights.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 9:34 pm
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Mennix, everything is relative. The NEV 1 is absolute garbage, NEV 2 not much better. Obviously AF concurs, otherwise they would not have redesigned it twice since. That added to an inferior soft product makes those worse options than DL's product. Nghtmare? No try KE's current old biz seat ICN-IST or SQ's on some longer routes that they have not updated and then you'll know what a nightmare is.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Mennix View Post
How can somebody think about preferring DL metal over AF? Might be some of the older seats are not the absolute best at AF, but DL seats are a nightmare. I would accept DL only on day flights. Never on night flights.
IMHO, the AF seat in J was quite comfortable on my recent flt from CDG/LAX. Yes, I could lie flat. OTOH, the cabin was unbearably hot. Dress for warm weather in the cabin; you'll be a lot more comfortable. Now, having flown within the last year on DL, AF and KL, I'm going with KL for comfort and service.
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