Any OFFICAL news on miles for international L fares

Old Jun 4, 05, 2:59 am
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Originally Posted by flyaircanada
on international flights with AF :
G/U 50% miles
N 50% on EUROPEAN Flights
L 50% on long haul Flights
With KLM :
V/E/N 25%
There must be something wrong with this. L should only earn 25% on long haul flights.

Here is the complete chart from Amadeus:

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                        2FBLUE                EN  31MAY05 0653Z                 
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 MILES EARNED ON FLIGHTS IN THE DOMESTIC FRANCE NETWORK                         
 ------------------------------------------------------                         
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 DOMESTIC FRANCE  : MILES EARNED                                                
 CORSICA INCLUDED                                                               
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      Y, S, B       :  1 000                                                    
 K,H,T,V,L,R,M,Q    :    500                                                    
     G,U,W,E,A      :    250                                                    
      N,X           :      0                                                    
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 MILES EARNED ON FLIGHTS OUTSIDE THE DOMESTIC FRANCE NETWORK                    
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 MINIMUM MILEAGE : 750 MILES                                                    
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 DEPENDING ON THE TRANSPORT CLASS, A CLASS BONUS PERMITS EXTRA                  
 MILES TO BE EARNED                                                             
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                        2FBLUE                EN  31MAY05 0653Z                 
 ON AIR FRANCE                                                                  
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 CABIN   * LONG     *ACCU * COI     * ACCU * EUROPE * ACCU                      
         * HAUL     *RATE *         * RATE *        * RATE                      
 **********************************************************                     
 FIRST   *  P,F     *300% * P,F     *300%  *        *                           
         *   A      *  0  *  A      *  0   *        *                           
 **********************************************************                     
 BUSINESS*J,C,D,I,Z *150% *C,D,I,Z  *150%  *C,D,Z   *200%                       
         *    O     * 0   *   O     * 0    *  O     *  0                        
 **********************************************************                     
 ALIZE   *          *     * S,A     *150%  *        *                           
         *          *     *  E      * 0    *        *                           
 **********************************************************                     
 ECO     *Y,B,K,H,T *100% *M,B,K,H,W* 100% *  Y,S,B *  200%                     
         *    V,N   *     *T,V,N    *      *        *                           
         **************************************************                     
         *   G,U    * 50% *  G,U    * 50%  * K,H,T,V,R                          
         *          *     *         *      * M,Q,L,W,* 100%                     
         *          *     *         *      * A,E     *                          
         **************************************************                     
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                        2FBLUE                EN  31MAY05 0653Z                 
         *    L     * 25% *   L     *  25% *  G,U    *  50%                     
         **************************************************                     
         *   X      *   0 *   X     *   0  *    N    *  25%                     
         *          *     *         *      *    X    *   0                      
 **********************************************************                     
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 ON KLM FLIGHT                                                                  
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 CABIN   * EUROPE  * ACCU RATE *OUTSIDE EUROPE* ACCU RATE                       
 *******************************************************                        
 BUSINESS*  J,C,Z  *    150%   *   J,C,Z      *   200%                          
 *******************************************************                        
 ECO     *S,B,M,H,Q*    100%   * X,S,B,M,H,Q  *   100%                          
         * K,L,T   *           * K,L,T,E      *                                 
 *******************************************************                        
         *  V      *    25%    *   N,V        *   25%                           
 *******************************************************                        
         *  D,W,G  *     0     *   D,W,G      *    0                            
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                        2FBLUE                EN  31MAY05 0653Z                 
   ELITE BONUS :                                                                
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      FLYING BLUE CARD LEVEL   ELITE BONUS                                      
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           IVORY                    NO BONUS                                    
           SILVER                   50%                                         
           GOLD                     75%                                         
           PLATINUM                 100%                                        
           CLUB 2000/SKIPPER        100%                                        
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Old Jun 4, 05, 3:13 am
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here we are again. everyone is confused ... so let's wait for the first one to have miles credited ...
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Old Jun 4, 05, 3:13 am
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It is also the case for N class on medium-haul flights. Well, it was expected.
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Old Jun 4, 05, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by Falco Peregrinus
Miles for groups? How many do we need to be?
And, are group fares really interesting? Do they exist for Business and First class?
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Old Jun 4, 05, 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by rcs85551
Here is the complete chart from Amadeus:
Great! ^ This seems completely official!

And farewell to my european weekends at 100/150 euros all in, booked in N. I used to get 2,000 status miles. Now it's 1,500 x 25% = 375 miles only

My weekend miles are now 433% more expensive
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Old Jun 4, 05, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by rcs85551
There must be something wrong with this. L should only earn 25% on long haul flights.

YES, sorry , I made the correction. REally sorry, but I made this chart in the middle of the night after a long day at work and I should use my glasses !!!!

SO, yes, only 25% and not 50%.

This is abslutely the official information.


Sorry once again.
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Old Jun 4, 05, 10:52 am
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Code:
 ON KLM FLIGHT                                                                  
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 CABIN   * EUROPE  * ACCU RATE *OUTSIDE EUROPE* ACCU RATE                       
 **************************************************  *****                        
 BUSINESS*  J,C,Z  *    150%   *   J,C,Z      *   200%                          
 **************************************************  *****                        
 ECO     *S,B,M,H,Q*    100%   * X,S,B,M,H,Q  *   100%                          
         * K,L,T   *           * K,L,T,E      *                                 
 **************************************************  *****                        
         *  V      *    25%    *   N,V        *   25%                           
 **************************************************  *****                        
         *  D,W,G  *     0     *   D,W,G      *    0                            
it is strange... it seems according to this amadeus chart that
- they mixed Europe and Outside Europe columns (as C in Europe brings 200% and only 150% on long haul)
- KLM-E would then earn 100% and not 25% as announced previously... compared to zero before june 6th

it's getting more and more confusing... by the way, rcs85551, how do you get these amadeus info? do you have a special access or is it publicly available?

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Old Jun 4, 05, 10:52 am
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What about U class on european routes?
Only 50% miles with U class and 100% miles with A class.
U is far more expensive than A.
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Old Jun 4, 05, 11:06 am
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another wierd thing about this L class... it earns 25% on long haul, and 100% on european flight.

Helsinki-New York... on Air France, L class:
- on the European flight: 1178 miles
- on the transatlantic flight: 910 miles

=> another argument to move out of France in order to benefit better from AF!
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