NEW Programs AF-KLM "FLYING BLUE"
Apr 21, 2005, 9:19 am
#226
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
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AFAIK = as far as I know
As to E or E+ status, this is the million dollar question. In so far as they do not have access to ST lounges other than KL or AF, this would suggest E rather than E+ but the situation is not altogether clear.
As to E or E+ status, this is the million dollar question. In so far as they do not have access to ST lounges other than KL or AF, this would suggest E rather than E+ but the situation is not altogether clear.
Apr 21, 2005, 9:23 am
#227
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM), France and TravelBuzz!
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Paris, France, AF F+ Rouge pour toujours, Flying Blue whatever, LH FTL, HHonors Gold, formerly proud SCC Executive, now IC Ambassador, BA down to nobody, Grand Voyageur Le Club
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Apr 21, 2005, 10:22 am
#228
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Paris
Programs: LH M&M FTL
Posts: 114
As I told in another post :
I confirm that gold members in the USA will have ELITE status and not ELITE PLus status. SO access to AF/KL lounges !
Furthermore, One US domestic flightsegment is a qualifying segment.
and finally, your flying blue status depends on the 2004 qualifying miles.
I confirm that gold members in the USA will have ELITE status and not ELITE PLus status. SO access to AF/KL lounges !
Furthermore, One US domestic flightsegment is a qualifying segment.
and finally, your flying blue status depends on the 2004 qualifying miles.
Apr 21, 2005, 9:11 pm
#229
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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[QUOTE=flyaircanada]As I told in another post :
I confirm that gold members in the USA will have ELITE status and not ELITE PLus status. SO access to AF/KL lounges !
[QUOTE]
I understand that US GOld Members will have only Elite Status. However, my question was concerning "NON-US" Gold Member, since these members can have access to all SkyTeam Lounges (not just AF/KLM Lounges like US Gold Members), would this mean they are Elite Plus? If this has not been clarified by Air France/KLM yet or no one here knows for sure, please never mind. I will just wait for the official announcement from AF/KLM....THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR INPUT
I confirm that gold members in the USA will have ELITE status and not ELITE PLus status. SO access to AF/KL lounges !
[QUOTE]
I understand that US GOld Members will have only Elite Status. However, my question was concerning "NON-US" Gold Member, since these members can have access to all SkyTeam Lounges (not just AF/KLM Lounges like US Gold Members), would this mean they are Elite Plus? If this has not been clarified by Air France/KLM yet or no one here knows for sure, please never mind. I will just wait for the official announcement from AF/KLM....THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR INPUT
Apr 22, 2005, 2:46 am
#231
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: frequence plus Rouge
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by flyaircanada
Non-US Gold members are Elite plus.
i am currently F+ ROUGE. i want to know if i changed now my adress (currently in the US) to a NON-US/FRENCH adress, will i get the ELITE PLUS status as of june? (maybe you can change it for me....)
thanks alot for your help!
Apr 22, 2005, 12:10 pm
#232
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Paris
Programs: LH M&M FTL
Posts: 114
Originally Posted by alter
i greatly appreciate your input flyaircanada, it helped me alot.
i am currently F+ ROUGE. i want to know if i changed now my adress (currently in the US) to a NON-US/FRENCH adress, will i get the ELITE PLUS status as of june? (maybe you can change it for me....)
thanks alot for your help!
i am currently F+ ROUGE. i want to know if i changed now my adress (currently in the US) to a NON-US/FRENCH adress, will i get the ELITE PLUS status as of june? (maybe you can change it for me....)
thanks alot for your help!
But my "official" answer is that we are not very happy when customers change their adress just because of status or Mileage earning (which is easier when you are a non resident in France). So I hope that your new adress is the real one........
Apr 22, 2005, 12:18 pm
#233
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Cleveland
Programs: AF/KLM Plat For Life/UA Million Miler-PremEx For Life/SPG Gold
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FAC-
There are plenty of people who have multiple addresses in multiple countries.
* corporate AND home addresses
* first home AND second home addresses
* own property AND rent property addresses
* first home AND investment property address
* etc. AND etc. addresses
There are plenty of people who have multiple addresses in multiple countries.
* corporate AND home addresses
* first home AND second home addresses
* own property AND rent property addresses
* first home AND investment property address
* etc. AND etc. addresses
Apr 22, 2005, 12:34 pm
#234
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF Flying Blue Platinum, IC Platinum Ambassador, HH Gold
Posts: 80
Originally Posted by Falco Peregrinus
Nothing in Paris so far. Not surprising, Paris being a lot farther away from CDG than Istanbul and Rio.
Apr 22, 2005, 2:41 pm
#235
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: JNB
Programs: Air France Platinum - Qatar Airways Gold
Posts: 1,659
Originally Posted by whizzer
Got my Platinum card in the mail today (I live in Paris).
Apr 22, 2005, 6:05 pm
#236
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 186
Hi,
Will there be system whereby you would only move down one level each year in case you don't have enough qmiles to retain your status. e.g If you are Platinum and you make 25,000 miles in 2005, you become Silver or you are downgraded one level only to Gold??? I heard this used to be the system at FD
Will there be system whereby you would only move down one level each year in case you don't have enough qmiles to retain your status. e.g If you are Platinum and you make 25,000 miles in 2005, you become Silver or you are downgraded one level only to Gold??? I heard this used to be the system at FD
Apr 22, 2005, 7:29 pm
#237
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Napa, California - DL demoted to xx, AF+ Rouge, FB Platinum
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Posts: 511
Originally Posted by whizzer
Got my Platinum card in the mail today (I live in Paris).
Interesting enough, she was just 200 miles last year from the Bleu level. I asked if they could award her the Bleu status, but never received a reply.
If we would have on one segment flown with Delta via on if its international hubs rather than the non-stop AF flight, she would have had enough miles for the next level. But we rather take the non-stop (and the better food).
Apr 22, 2005, 9:30 pm
#238
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: MOW
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Originally Posted by ALEXIS2004
Hi,
Will there be system whereby you would only move down one level each year in case you don't have enough qmiles to retain your status. e.g If you are Platinum and you make 25,000 miles in 2005, you become Silver or you are downgraded one level only to Gold??? I heard this used to be the system at FD
Will there be system whereby you would only move down one level each year in case you don't have enough qmiles to retain your status. e.g If you are Platinum and you make 25,000 miles in 2005, you become Silver or you are downgraded one level only to Gold??? I heard this used to be the system at FD
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Apr 23, 2005, 10:05 am
#240
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,673
Actually, FAQ #24 mentions one must earn one level mile for a soft landing:
If you did not travel at all, you will be downgraded to Ivory level, in spite of your current level.
If you only earned at least one Level Mile, but not enough to continue your level, you will only be downgraded to the next lower level.
If you only earned at least one Level Mile, but not enough to continue your level, you will only be downgraded to the next lower level.