NEW Programs AF-KLM "FLYING BLUE"
Apr 17, 2005, 1:04 pm
#211
In Memoriam
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CDG
Programs: I used to be Plat, but now I'm not. Now I'm just Gold. Lucky if I keep that.
Posts: 4,029
Originally Posted by damienmoreau
This is exactly my cas. I flew last year with AF, just enough to reach Red status (40k) to also be able to get Gold with Delta.
DM
DM
Yeah, I hear you.... I put everything pretty much on UA once I made Rouge for AF. Sorry, but UA was *much* more convient for me out of IAD than SkyTeam. Nevertheless, had I saw the writing on the wall, I would have bucked up and put it all on AF and I wouldn't be worrying at all about where I'll be for the next year.
Apr 17, 2005, 3:07 pm
#212
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: frequence plus Rouge
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by beaubo
So, FB will be discriminating against members with US addresses when it comes to lounge access and being designated only ST Elite. FB will be discriminating against members with French addresses when it comes to earning more status miles than other members.
Solution....get a non-US/non-French address!!!!
I wonder if FB will activate the equivalent of Delta's Revenue Protection Unit for correct address enforcement!
Solution....get a non-US/non-French address!!!!
I wonder if FB will activate the equivalent of Delta's Revenue Protection Unit for correct address enforcement!
hello,
i have a question
i am a us residing F+ ROUGE member, now according to what i read about the new "FLYING BLUE" program, there are some dissadvantages for us residents, Q: will US residents still be reciving 100% bonus miles? and if not, then is it better i change over to a diffrent E.U. adress (like spain for example)?
thanks for your help
Apr 17, 2005, 9:12 pm
#213
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,673
Originally Posted by alter
Q: will US residents still be receiving 100% bonus miles? and if not, then is it better i change over to a different E.U. address?
F+ never had a 100% bonus outside of the US; FB bonuses will be the same for all locations.
The reason for a 'move' to Europe would be to get Skyteam Elite Plus status as a FB Gold, as US FB Golds will apparently only be Skyteam Elite (without Skyteam lounge access).
Apr 17, 2005, 9:22 pm
#214
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,673
Originally Posted by Snoopyo
Same with KE for 50K should be mid tier rather than low tier
There is then a huge gap to 'Morning Calm Premium'/ST E+, granted at 500K lifetime, with lifetime validity however.
Apr 18, 2005, 2:19 am
#215
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: LYS, BKK, JFK
Programs: LH SEN* ; Lifetime Ivory Member AF
Posts: 350
To All Us Resident :
If Af Want To Play Let's Play. All Of Those Who Have Family Or Friend Outisde Us Just Chage Your Addres To Their Address.
Af Is Not Police They Are Not Allowed To Ask Proof Or Investigate !!!
If Af Want To Play Let's Play. All Of Those Who Have Family Or Friend Outisde Us Just Chage Your Addres To Their Address.
Af Is Not Police They Are Not Allowed To Ask Proof Or Investigate !!!
Apr 18, 2005, 6:14 am
#216
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: frequence plus Rouge
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by mat_bkk
To All Us Resident :
If Af Want To Play Let's Play. All Of Those Who Have Family Or Friend Outisde Us Just Chage Your Addres To Their Address.
Af Is Not Police They Are Not Allowed To Ask Proof Or Investigate !!!
If Af Want To Play Let's Play. All Of Those Who Have Family Or Friend Outisde Us Just Chage Your Addres To Their Address.
Af Is Not Police They Are Not Allowed To Ask Proof Or Investigate !!!
but as non Us resident (and non french), how many Qmiles will be needed for the elite+ status?
Apr 18, 2005, 7:01 pm
#217
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Phoenix, USA
Programs: Frequence Plus Red, Mileage Plus, Executive Club
Posts: 14
Originally Posted by monahos
The reason for a 'move' to Europe would be to get Skyteam Elite Plus status as a FB Gold, as US FB Golds will apparently only be Skyteam Elite (without Skyteam lounge access).
Apr 19, 2005, 2:39 pm
#218
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: paris, france
Posts: 464
If i understand well :
A - Everywhere-but-U.S.-and-France based = 40K to become GOLD / 75 % bonus / ELITE PLUS
B - France based : More K for GOLD / same as above for bonus and status
C - U.S. based = same as A but Elite status only
So, the "best" option would be option A ?
A - Everywhere-but-U.S.-and-France based = 40K to become GOLD / 75 % bonus / ELITE PLUS
B - France based : More K for GOLD / same as above for bonus and status
C - U.S. based = same as A but Elite status only
So, the "best" option would be option A ?
Apr 20, 2005, 10:39 am
#219
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 259
Originally Posted by mat_bkk
To All Us Resident :
If Af Want To Play Let's Play. All Of Those Who Have Family Or Friend Outisde Us Just Chage Your Addres To Their Address.
Af Is Not Police They Are Not Allowed To Ask Proof Or Investigate !!!
If Af Want To Play Let's Play. All Of Those Who Have Family Or Friend Outisde Us Just Chage Your Addres To Their Address.
Af Is Not Police They Are Not Allowed To Ask Proof Or Investigate !!!
it looks like that the times of an online change of country of residence are gone.... all I can change online are street, city, zip, but not the country of residence: the system always jumps back to us-residency. so I remain us resident...
Apr 20, 2005, 11:32 am
#220
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New York City
Programs: 2014 : BA Gold, Flying Blue Platinum for Life , LH/LX Senator, Emirates Gold, Etihad Gold, CX Plat
Posts: 625
200 000 level miles in 2004, I receive a GOLD Flying Blue
More than 200 000 level miles in 2004 and already 100 000 in 2005 (thanks AF Amex....) and I just received my Flying Blue card .... GOLD and not Plat... 
I will call them.
I will call them.
Apr 21, 2005, 4:40 am
#222
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New York City
Programs: 2014 : BA Gold, Flying Blue Platinum for Life , LH/LX Senator, Emirates Gold, Etihad Gold, CX Plat
Posts: 625
the F+ agent just told me that it should be a mistake, I need to call back after June tghe 6th if I don't receive the Platinum card.
Apr 21, 2005, 7:48 am
#223
Ambassador: Thai Airways
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bangkok
Programs: UA 1k, TG Gold, LT Bonvoy Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 1,034
Experts,
Got Flying Blue Package today (unfortunately, I am just an Ivory Member). Got a couple questions.
All Members EXCEPT French Residents:
Silver: 25K Level Miles or 15 SkyTeam One Way Flights, 50% Mileage Bonus.
Gold: 40K Level Miles or 30 SkyTeam One Way Flights, 75% Mileage Bonus.
Platinum: 70K Level Miles or 60 SkyTeam One Way Flights, 100% Mileage Bonus.
All One Way flights mentioned above exclude French Domestic Flights.
1st Q: Does US Domestic Flight count as One SkyTeam One Way Flight?
2nd Q: It says (within Platinum Benefits) that "Level Miles carried forward to the next year after reaching threshold of 115K Miles or 105 one-way flights (except Franch Residents: Threshold is at 150K Miles). How does this actually work? Does the threshold miles need to be reached within the same calendar year or what??, and then the remaining (whatever after the threshold miles) gets carried forward to the next year??? I am confused with this benefit they mentioned.
3rd Q: It says that Platinum Members gets access to "ALL SKYTEAM LOUNGES" while Gold Members gets access to "LOUNGES." Does "LOUNGES" mean AF/KLM Lounges only?
Please explain if any of you know....thanks.
Got Flying Blue Package today (unfortunately, I am just an Ivory Member). Got a couple questions.
All Members EXCEPT French Residents:
Silver: 25K Level Miles or 15 SkyTeam One Way Flights, 50% Mileage Bonus.
Gold: 40K Level Miles or 30 SkyTeam One Way Flights, 75% Mileage Bonus.
Platinum: 70K Level Miles or 60 SkyTeam One Way Flights, 100% Mileage Bonus.
All One Way flights mentioned above exclude French Domestic Flights.
1st Q: Does US Domestic Flight count as One SkyTeam One Way Flight?
2nd Q: It says (within Platinum Benefits) that "Level Miles carried forward to the next year after reaching threshold of 115K Miles or 105 one-way flights (except Franch Residents: Threshold is at 150K Miles). How does this actually work? Does the threshold miles need to be reached within the same calendar year or what??, and then the remaining (whatever after the threshold miles) gets carried forward to the next year??? I am confused with this benefit they mentioned.
3rd Q: It says that Platinum Members gets access to "ALL SKYTEAM LOUNGES" while Gold Members gets access to "LOUNGES." Does "LOUNGES" mean AF/KLM Lounges only?
Please explain if any of you know....thanks.
Apr 21, 2005, 8:53 am
#224
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
Posts: 18,364
1) AFAIK Yes
2) All EQM above 115K in a calendar year will count towards elite requalification for the next year. Thus, if you do 185K EQM in 2005, you will qualify for FB platinum in 2006 (because you did more than 70K in 2005) and for 2007 (because you did 70K above 115K in 2005).
3) All lounges for non-US Gold members. KL and AF lounges only for US Gold members
2) All EQM above 115K in a calendar year will count towards elite requalification for the next year. Thus, if you do 185K EQM in 2005, you will qualify for FB platinum in 2006 (because you did more than 70K in 2005) and for 2007 (because you did 70K above 115K in 2005).
3) All lounges for non-US Gold members. KL and AF lounges only for US Gold members
Apr 21, 2005, 9:09 am
#225
Ambassador: Thai Airways
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bangkok
Programs: UA 1k, TG Gold, LT Bonvoy Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 1,034
Originally Posted by NickB
1) AFAIK Yes
2) All EQM above 115K in a calendar year will count towards elite requalification for the next year. Thus, if you do 185K EQM in 2005, you will qualify for FB platinum in 2006 (because you did more than 70K in 2005) and for 2007 (because you did 70K above 115K in 2005).
3) All lounges for non-US Gold members. KL and AF lounges only for US Gold members
2) All EQM above 115K in a calendar year will count towards elite requalification for the next year. Thus, if you do 185K EQM in 2005, you will qualify for FB platinum in 2006 (because you did more than 70K in 2005) and for 2007 (because you did 70K above 115K in 2005).
3) All lounges for non-US Gold members. KL and AF lounges only for US Gold members
Last 2 questions,
1. What is AFAIK?
2. Is Non-US Gold Member considered Elite Plus or Elite?