"Hidden city" Flying Blue award ticket to France
A friend of mine called and asked if she could book a one-way Flying Blue ticket from America to Marseille through CDG, and just get off in Paris. The AF website is pricing this as much cheaper for her travel date than just a ticket to CDG. I told her that as long as she didn't have a checked bag -- and to make sure she got her carry-on aboard the plane -- this would seem like a reasonable thing to do.
Anything I'm missing, or is this a decent strategy? |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 35366359)
A friend of mine called and asked if she could book a one-way Flying Blue ticket from America to Marseille through CDG, and just get off in Paris. The AF website is pricing this as much cheaper for her travel date than just a ticket to CDG. I told her that as long as she didn't have a checked bag -- and to make sure she got her carry-on aboard the plane -- this would seem like a reasonable thing to do.
Anything I'm missing, or is this a decent strategy? |
I find it a bit risky, hidden cities are less a problem for the airline than paid tickets... If the fare difference is significant there are more chances they make her pay the difference if she gets caught because they will notice it anyway.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 35366397)
It works for me on one-way award tickets if certain not to have any checked-in luggage — not even intended cabin baggage ending up as checked-in luggage. AF check-in at US airports can sometimes size and weigh cabin baggage, so keep that risk in mind about cabin baggage too.
Thanks, yeah that's the only problem I see, too. BTW, if you're flying to another city in France with a connection at CDG, where does your baggage clear customs? Is it like in the USA where you have to claim your bag at your initial port of entry -- and then recheck it? Obviously, that would solve any potential (even if unlikely) problem if you want to simply walk away at CDG. |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 35366481)
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Thanks, yeah that's the only problem I see, too. BTW, if you're flying to another city in France with a connection at CDG, where does your baggage clear customs? Is it like in the USA where you have to claim your bag at your initial port of entry -- and then recheck it? Obviously, that would solve any potential (even if unlikely) problem if you want to simply walk away at CDG. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 35366493)
It is not like the US with customs at the port of entry. Checked-in luggage from the US to destinations in Metropolitan France are generally claimed at and get customs cleared at the final destination as per the final destination noted on the bag tag.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 35367442)
Not generally. Always.
Extremely rare/extraordinary ≠ never Extremely rare/extraordinary ≠ the opposite of always The OP’s idea won’t work nicely with checked bags at CDG because unless the bags are tagged only to CDG they will ordinarily go for placement to be loaded onto the continuing flight to MRS and don’t come to the CDG baggage claim belts. Nowadays does AF/CDG require positive passenger bag matching for the plane to fly out with checked luggage that is not rush tagged? If it does, what does CDG do with offloaded luggage at CDG for passengers who no-show for the onward flight? |
Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 35367442)
Not generally. Always.
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Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 35366359)
A friend of mine called and asked if she could book a one-way Flying Blue ticket from America to Marseille through CDG, and just get off in Paris. The AF website is pricing this as much cheaper for her travel date than just a ticket to CDG. I told her that as long as she didn't have a checked bag -- and to make sure she got her carry-on aboard the plane -- this would seem like a reasonable thing to do.
Anything I'm missing, or is this a decent strategy? |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 35367494)
Nowadays does AF/CDG require positive passenger bag matching for the plane to fly out with checked luggage that is not rush tagged?
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 35367494)
If it does, what does CDG do with offloaded luggage at CDG for passengers who no-show for the onward flight?
Originally Posted by nomiiiii
(Post 35367560)
How does this work though, given that Paris-Marseille is a domestic flight. Wouldn't this domestic flight land in the terminal where passengers can simply walk off, where would the customs be in Marseille airport domestic arrivals.
A few airports have a different belt to claim bags coming from EU or non-EU, for the same flight (I have TLS in mind). In that case, customs will usually be present only near the non-EU belt. |
Originally Posted by nomiiiii
(Post 35367560)
How does this work though, given that Paris-Marseille is a domestic flight. Wouldn't this domestic flight land in the terminal where passengers can simply walk off, where would the customs be in Marseille airport domestic arrivals.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 35367670)
Yes. And I believe this is policy for most airlines/countries in the world, except USA (and may be Canada ?).
It depends on what the passenger will do : take another flight and bag will be put on this flight, or return to pax in CDG (for a fee). What fee does AF charge for that if the bag is still at CDG because it can’t continue on due to PPBM requirements for a no-showing passenger at CDG? I’ve never encountered such a fee, but I’ve encountered the inconvenience of having to wait sometimes a very long time for the offloaded bags to get back to the baggage claim halls/belts. |
Originally Posted by canadavid
(Post 35367636)
She can also check all train transfer that are sometimes also cheaper (Lille, Reims, Nantes, rennes, lys etc…). This way, you really get off at cdg and just collect the train ticket (and do not board the train) but you can still travel with checked-in luggage.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 35367809)
What fee does AF charge for that if the bag is still at CDG because it can’t continue on due to PPBM requirements for a no-showing passenger at CDG? I’ve never encountered such a fee, but I’ve encountered the inconvenience of having to wait sometimes a very long time for the offloaded bags to get back to the baggage claim halls/belts.
"Afin de pouvoir récupérer ses Bagages Enregistrés, lorsque le Passager décide d'interrompre prématurément son voyage et n'utilise pas intégralement ses Coupons de Vol, il pourra être amené à payer un montant forfaitaire qui ne pourra excéder 300 euros." Of course, this fee is chargeable only if the pax is at fault. |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 35366359)
A friend of mine called and asked if she could book a one-way Flying Blue ticket from America to Marseille through CDG, and just get off in Paris. The AF website is pricing this as much cheaper for her travel date than just a ticket to CDG. I told her that as long as she didn't have a checked bag -- and to make sure she got her carry-on aboard the plane -- this would seem like a reasonable thing to do.
Anything I'm missing, or is this a decent strategy? - America to Paris CDG then train to your final destination = in this case your luggage will be handled to you at Paris CDG - America to Paris CDG then connecting flight leaving from Paris ORY = in this case your luggage will be handled to you at Paris CDG - America to Paris CDG then connecting flight leaving from Paris CDG but after a long stop-over (12h+) = in this case you can ask in America to have your luggage tagged until Paris CDG were you can recollect it. hope this helps |
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