Air France biz class seating

Old Jun 21, 23, 9:29 am
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Air France biz class seating

Flying 777-300 biz class on AF0007 at 6:30 PM. There are limited seats available for 2. I am currently, almost all the way in the back, in row 17 E,F in the center 2 seats. From a service perspective, am I better off moving to seats 3L and 4L? They just became available and we plan on eating and then going to sleep soon after. Would service be better in the front of the cabin?
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Old Jun 21, 23, 12:02 pm
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At least service will be faster, and yes, 3L+4L sounds like a much better choice
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Old Jun 21, 23, 12:20 pm
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Is this flight will be equipped with the new J seats?
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Old Jun 21, 23, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
Is this flight will be equipped with the new J seats?
you said middle seats are E&F, so this most likely will be an old J cabin (BEST cabin) with the P (La Premire) cabin in Row 1.

The middle seats for the new J seats are labelled D&H instead.

Another way to check: if the J cabin starts at Row 3, then that J cabin most definitely is the old BEST J seat.
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Old Jun 21, 23, 1:24 pm
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AF23, AF7, and AF11 are typically P frequencies, so get BEST (i.e. not the new seat). AF14, AF6, and AF10 are the typical P frequencies in the CDG-JFK direction. If booking a JFK flight to try to get the new seat, avoid these flights.

For the dates I sampled, AF15 (dp 1730 from JFK) and AF22 (dp 0830 from CDG) are the frequencies with the new seat.
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Old Jun 27, 23, 10:51 pm
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Does the plane to DXB 777-300 have the new business class seats or the old ones?
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Old Jun 27, 23, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
Does the plane to DXB 777-300 have the new business class seats or the old ones?
Usually (but not always), the CDG-DXB route tends to be the ones with the P cabin, so more often than not it will be an old 2014 BEST seat.
However, I saw instances with aircraft change, so you never know for sure. The CDG-DXB route on May 25 and May 26 was covered by a 777-300 with the dreaded 2-3-2 NEV4 business cabin after all.
FYI, You can check out here to see which type of J seat you will be getting.
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Originally Posted by precielous
you said middle seats are E&F, so this most likely will be an old J cabin (BEST cabin) with the P (La Premire) cabin in Row 1.

The middle seats for the new J seats are labelled D&H instead.

Another way to check: if the J cabin starts at Row 3, then that J cabin most definitely is the old BEST J seat.
I am on AF0083 in Seats 5E/F - so the "old seats". Can I get a TLDR, or a link to a thread about why these are the best? Thanks ! :-)
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Old Sep 25, 23, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by returnoftheyeti
I am on AF0083 in Seats 5E/F - so the "old seats". Can I get a TLDR, or a link to a thread about why these are the best? Thanks ! :-)
BEST actually doesn't mean BEST as the best seats on that particular setting; it's just how those types of seats are being called.
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Old Sep 26, 23, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by returnoftheyeti
I am on AF0083 in Seats 5E/F - so the "old seats". Can I get a TLDR, or a link to a thread about why these are the best? Thanks ! :-)
Basically, those seats were introduced to replace the NEV seats (2-3-2 angle flat) as part of a program of general improvements called "BEST and BEYOND".

As far as the seat itself, it's basically the same as the new seat (the door, the electronics, and the extra room in the bulkhead (which likely doesn't matter if you're not a Flying Blue Gold/Platinum) are the differences). There is nothing wrong with BEST (787 version is a bit cramped, but there almost surely isn't a 787 J seat that I wouldn't consider cramped).
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Old Sep 29, 23, 8:52 am
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We just booked DL8741/AF5. On the a359 in J.

Same question, is Service typically faster and served from the front?
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I've read that in some 773 configurations row 9 has the best seats, but are reserved for AF elites until 72 hours in advance. Our 773 (AF5) is configured A-EF-L, with rows 3-6 and 9-20, but no 9EF on the seat map. We are now in 11EF. Does this mean 9EF either doesn't exist or are no better than other seats?
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Old Nov 13, 23, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by richarddd
I've read that in some 773 configurations row 9 has the best seats, but are reserved for AF elites until 72 hours in advance. Our 773 (AF5) is configured A-EF-L, with rows 3-6 and 9-20, but no 9EF on the seat map. We are now in 11EF. Does this mean 9EF either doesn't exist or are no better than other seats?
I believe you're in the 77W with P, and thus the BEST cabine config without the doors.
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Old Nov 13, 23, 1:27 pm
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I believe you're in the 77W with P, and thus the BEST cabine config without the doors.
Looks like it. I guess the reason I can't book 9EF (and that those are not better than other J seats) is that they don't exist. https://www.aerolopa.com/af-773-4p. I'll stick to 11EF.

Night flight with the intention of sleeping as much as possible. Any better alternatives?
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Old Nov 13, 23, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by richarddd
Looks like it. I guess the reason I can't book 9EF (and that those are not better than other J seats) is that they don't exist. https://www.aerolopa.com/af-773-4p. I'll stick to 11EF.

Night flight with the intention of sleeping as much as possible. Any better alternatives?
Why looking for alternatives ? This is a very good seat.
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