Air France flights operated by Amelia
#17
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: The Hague
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Had a similar situation: Informed that my S23 flight from PMO - CDG will be operated by amelia. Economy only. Given 3 options: cancel, being reimbursed for the downgrade after flying or contact them via telephone for a reschedule. Now rebooked on ITA via Rome (first leg economy superior / middle seat free).
Tickets on AF still bookable in business on AF and KL websites.
Tickets on AF still bookable in business on AF and KL websites.
#18
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: CMN,DXB,CDG
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I'm looking to book a flight CDG-CMN and I'm also seeing Amelia on that route (AF1896, the first flight of the day, seems to be operated by Amelia 319 daily at least for the last week of April).
Did anyone see any kind of communication from AF regarding Amelia ops being extended to other parts of the network?
Did anyone see any kind of communication from AF regarding Amelia ops being extended to other parts of the network?
#20
Join Date: Jun 2014
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I see only one AF flight from Orly, and starting only from April 20th. It leaves at 7:25 AM and is AF metal with business class on board. But as OP says he/she booked this for Easter holidays, this may be too late. Also, as OP is from Belgium, an overnight may be required as the flight leaves very early. Otherwise, it looks like some of the flights CDG-TUN are still operated on AF-metal, according to EF. But it is mostly the A319 by 8R (Amelia), with on board 1 class, 144 seats, 24 rows of 6 seats across. I am sure that you will have some of the perks of booked business class, like lounge and luggage, but on board i doubt that there is different catering and, as you mentioned yourself, no empty middle seat. You have not many alternatives. But one of them is TunisAir: they often use a widebody from ORY to TUN on TU719 at 12:40
#22
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Belgium
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So I decided to take them up on their offer to cancel the flights, get a complete refund and rebooked on ITA in business class.
still curious to what will be offered on Amelia though
#23
Join Date: Jun 2014
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So I was on the CDG-TUN this morning and it was operated by Amelia:
- Gate was K23 so that meant bussing to aircraft which was parked in from T2B. First time using a bus with Air France which meant priority boarding boarding was useless. And Boarding started much earlier than expected. When I reached the gate from the lounge, the first bus had just departed. A bit of a stressful moment not knowing whether they would confiscate my hand luggage or not as the flight was full.
- Boarded the plane after waiting almost 15 minutes waiting for other aircraft to push back and leave.
- Plane looked a bit tired inside. Leather seats without headrests. Not nice if you want to catch up on some sleep. The seat backs were also not very clean and some of them couldn't be locked in an upright position.
- No Business Class confirmed.
- Service in Economy is the usual AF service: Sandwich, biscuit and drinks.
- Cabin Crew were nice and excited to be operating an AF flight it seems. They were only 3 for this flight.
#24
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I was on TUN-CDG recently, operated by Amelia. I had booked a business class flight with miles, and had later received the "you've been downgraded to economy" email. Overall the experience was totally fine and roughly comparable to an AF-operated flight apart from the catering.
- There is priority check-in and boarding at TUN. The priority boarding was enforced well, with several passengers told to join the other queue. My boarding pass said Y on it, but I have platinum status; I'm not sure what might have happened if I had no status.
- The first four rows of the aircraft all had the middle seat kept free. There were those plastic dividers between rows 4 and 5 together with a curtain, but the curtain remained open throughout the flight.
- Sandwich, biscuit and drinks (wine, beer, juices, waters, cokes etc).
- Seat pitch was noticeably less than AF, and it would have felt cramped without the middle seat free.
- Cabin crew were nice.
- Parked at a remote stand at CDG and bused to the terminal.
#25
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: CMN,DXB,CDG
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Here is a list of Amelia (and DAT) operated flights for the summer (sourced from Aeroroute):
Air France operated by Amelia A319
Paris CDG – Catania
Paris CDG – Djerba
Paris CDG – Malta
Paris CDG – Palermo
Paris CDG – Thessaloniki
Paris CDG – Tunis
Paris Orly – Casablanca
Paris Orly – Tunis (From May)
Following routes scheduled with Amelia A319 in April and/or May
Paris CDG – Athens
Paris CDG – Casablanca (note: this might extend beyond, as a family member already got a notice that his flight will be operated by Amelia in July)
Air France operated by DAT A320
Paris CDG – Athens (2 daily)
Paris CDG – Barcelona (1 daily)
Paris CDG – Valencia (2 daily)
Air France operated by Amelia A319
Paris CDG – Catania
Paris CDG – Djerba
Paris CDG – Malta
Paris CDG – Palermo
Paris CDG – Thessaloniki
Paris CDG – Tunis
Paris Orly – Casablanca
Paris Orly – Tunis (From May)
Following routes scheduled with Amelia A319 in April and/or May
Paris CDG – Athens
Paris CDG – Casablanca (note: this might extend beyond, as a family member already got a notice that his flight will be operated by Amelia in July)
Air France operated by DAT A320
Paris CDG – Athens (2 daily)
Paris CDG – Barcelona (1 daily)
Paris CDG – Valencia (2 daily)
#26
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Here is a list of Amelia (and DAT) operated flights for the summer (sourced from Aeroroute):
Air France operated by Amelia A319
Paris CDG Catania
Paris CDG Djerba
Paris CDG Malta
Paris CDG Palermo
Paris CDG Thessaloniki
Paris CDG Tunis
Paris Orly Casablanca
Paris Orly Tunis (From May)
Following routes scheduled with Amelia A319 in April and/or May
Paris CDG Athens
Paris CDG Casablanca (note: this might extend beyond, as a family member already got a notice that his flight will be operated by Amelia in July)
Air France operated by DAT A320
Paris CDG Athens (2 daily)
Paris CDG Barcelona (1 daily)
Paris CDG Valencia (2 daily)
Air France operated by Amelia A319
Paris CDG Catania
Paris CDG Djerba
Paris CDG Malta
Paris CDG Palermo
Paris CDG Thessaloniki
Paris CDG Tunis
Paris Orly Casablanca
Paris Orly Tunis (From May)
Following routes scheduled with Amelia A319 in April and/or May
Paris CDG Athens
Paris CDG Casablanca (note: this might extend beyond, as a family member already got a notice that his flight will be operated by Amelia in July)
Air France operated by DAT A320
Paris CDG Athens (2 daily)
Paris CDG Barcelona (1 daily)
Paris CDG Valencia (2 daily)
#29
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#30
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They also add some routes with ASL plane for the summer schedule according to Aeroroutes https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230427-af5o :
Air France during Northern summer 2023 season is adding Boeing 737-800 aircraft to its operation, operated by ASL Airlines France. Planned operation as of 26APR23 as follows.
Paris CDG – Bari 12JUL23 – 24AUG23 2 weekly
Paris CDG – Casablanca eff 15MAY23 1 daily (Except 08JUL23 – 27AUG23)
Paris CDG – Djerba 08JUN23 – 26AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Faro 08JUN23 – 26AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Figari 11JUL23 – 22AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Irakleion 10JUL23 – 25AUG23 4 weekly
Paris CDG – Malta 09JUL23 – 27AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Mykonos 13JUL23 – 24AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Palermo 10JUL23 – 25AUG23 2 weekly
Paris CDG – Thessaloniki 09JUL23 – 27AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Tunis eff 15MAY23 1 daily (Except 08JUL23 – 27AUG23)
Air France during Northern summer 2023 season is adding Boeing 737-800 aircraft to its operation, operated by ASL Airlines France. Planned operation as of 26APR23 as follows.
Paris CDG – Bari 12JUL23 – 24AUG23 2 weekly
Paris CDG – Casablanca eff 15MAY23 1 daily (Except 08JUL23 – 27AUG23)
Paris CDG – Djerba 08JUN23 – 26AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Faro 08JUN23 – 26AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Figari 11JUL23 – 22AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Irakleion 10JUL23 – 25AUG23 4 weekly
Paris CDG – Malta 09JUL23 – 27AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Mykonos 13JUL23 – 24AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Palermo 10JUL23 – 25AUG23 2 weekly
Paris CDG – Thessaloniki 09JUL23 – 27AUG23 1 weekly
Paris CDG – Tunis eff 15MAY23 1 daily (Except 08JUL23 – 27AUG23)