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AF & DL launch “Shuttle” service between Paris and New York-JFK

AF & DL launch “Shuttle” service between Paris and New York-JFK

Old Jun 16, 22, 4:31 am
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AF & DL launch “Shuttle” service between Paris and New York-JFK

Below is a condensate of a communiqué sent by the JV partners AF & DL. Very nice to see the activity recovering so fast. .
Overall AF will operate close to 200 weekly flights to 14 U.S gateways, 20% higher than what AF operated in summer 2019. This includes the recent resumption of the DFW & DEN routes and the daily ORY-JFK flight.

Starting in June, Delta Air Lines and Air France will partner to offer nine daily flights between Paris’ international airports, CDG and ORY, and JFK.

This trans-Atlantic “shuttle” service will make travel between the two cities easier and more convenient. Together, the airlines will offer departures from CDG and ORY every one to two hours during the day and hourly departures from JFK starting in the later afternoon.

Air France will operate six daily flights from Paris-CDG to New York-JFK and one daily flight from Paris-ORY to New York-JFK with Boeing 777-300s and Airbus A350s. Delta will operate two daily flights from Paris-CDG to New York-JFK with Airbus A330s.

All nine flights offer at least three classes of service:
  • Delta One® / Air France Business Class
  • Delta Premium Select and/or Comfort+ / Air France Premium Economy
  • Economy / Main Cabin
Three daily Air France flights will also offer La Premičre.​
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Old Jun 16, 22, 6:13 am
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I read this a few weeks ago as well, and saw a clip on BFM Business where the PDG said they have more capacity than pre-Covid in certain cases.

Travel has roared back (as if we didn't know this already).
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Old Jun 16, 22, 7:55 am
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Based on my experiences of doing JFK-CDG and back a few times in J and P, the cabins are sold out so this is good news.

In terms of LP, hopefully the three daily LP opportunities will allow for the chance for a less full P cabin. Sometimes the FA in LP is amazing despite being a full cabin, but other times, the FA would focus on only one or two passengers out of the four.
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Old Jun 16, 22, 7:08 pm
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Originally Posted by physicsdude View Post
Based on my experiences of doing JFK-CDG and back a few times in J and P, the cabins are sold out so this is good news.
Same experience on this route (and BOS).

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In terms of LP, hopefully the three daily LP opportunities will allow for the chance for a less full P cabin. Sometimes the FA in LP is amazing despite being a full cabin, but other times, the FA would focus on only one or two passengers out of the four.
Not so sure for the less full cabin. I heard from several sources at AF that P bookings are very solid for US routes, especially on JFK. I am very happy that AF P is working well. It is such a wonderful product they can be very proud about.
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Old Jun 20, 22, 2:36 am
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Not sure what « shuttle » means, considering it will not come with increased flexibility and fast track for all passengers I guess…
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Old Jun 20, 22, 2:40 am
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Originally Posted by olivedel View Post
Not sure what « shuttle » means, considering it will not come with increased flexibility and fast track for all passengers I guess…
Indeed. All it seems to mean is at least one flight an hour for part of the day.
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Old Jun 20, 22, 3:08 am
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I suppose AF is using "shuttle" because they use "La Navette" for flights between ORY and NCE/MRS/MPL/TLS where they have a flight every hour

So purely a marketing tool, simply because demand is stronger between Europe and the US than between Europe and Asia. They are simply adjusting their program and putting more planes where they have more passengers
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Old Jun 21, 22, 12:36 pm
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Adding extra benefits to the "shuttle" package would have been nice. AA, for example, allows you to do same-day confirmed changes on LHR-JFK flights.
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Old Jun 21, 22, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by SDQBound View Post
Adding extra benefits to the "shuttle" package would have been nice. AA, for example, allows you to do same-day confirmed changes on LHR-JFK flights.
AF does offer this on its metropolitaine France flights when you have their subscription/carte d'abonnement. It's catered to the business traveller that shuttles between TLS/MPL etc... to ORY where there are near-hourly flights branded as 'Navette". With the subscription, you can swap for an earlier or later flight the same day at no charge.
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“Shuttle” is just marketing speak in this case. Too bad that not all AF flights offer LP.
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To USA customers, the word shuttle would mean that at least some tickets are fully flexible and can be changed or purchased (guaranteed availability even if the flight is overbooked) until very close (10-15 minutes if presenting to the gate with no luggage to check) to departure. It also could suggest an improved but very fast F&B service, with free alcohol for all and perhaps a grab and go approach either from a buffet in the gate area (PMNW FastTrack between MSP and ORD) or from the usual cards (Eastern (RIP) shuttle between LGA and DCA, for example). On some shuttle flights, passengers pay on board for their tickets, after the flight is up in the air.
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Old Jun 21, 22, 3:50 pm
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I remember that FastTrack service between ORD and MSP...it was really delightful.
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This is not a true shuttle service. Just an excuse for a press release :-)
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Old Jun 22, 22, 3:23 am
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Originally Posted by mlin32 View Post
I read this a few weeks ago as well, and saw a clip on BFM Business where the PDG said they have more capacity than pre-Covid in certain cases.

Travel has roared back (as if we didn't know this already).
Travel to most Asian destinations is still weak, but should be improving now that many countries are lifting covid entry restrictions.
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Old Jun 23, 22, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by mlin32 View Post
AF does offer this on its metropolitaine France flights when you have their subscription/carte d'abonnement. It's catered to the business traveller that shuttles between TLS/MPL etc... to ORY where there are near-hourly flights branded as 'Navette". With the subscription, you can swap for an earlier or later flight the same day at no charge.
I am glad you can do that! As an ex-abonné, the flights between TLS or MPL to ORY/CDG were so outrageously priced with that fare that it was the bare minimum!
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