COVID Restrictions to entry in France

Old May 12, 21, 6:26 am
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Five more countries will soon be added to the list of "red" countries from which arriving pax must quarantine:

13h45. Cinq nouveaux pays vont rejoindre la liste des pays soumis à une quarantaine, annonce Gabriel Attal. La liste sera dévoilée plus tard, déclare selon le porte-parole du gouvernement. 7 000 arrêtés d’isolement ont été ordonnés la semaine dernière pour des personnes revenant de pays à quarantaine obligatoire, annonce Gabriel Attal. Après le Brésil, l’Inde, l’Argentine, le Chili et l’Afrique du Sud, sept nouveaux pays : la Turquie, du Bangladesh, du Sri Lanka, du Pakistan, du Népal, des Emirats arabes unis et du Qatar, avaient été placés dans les pays ciblés par une quarantaine obligatoire le 7 mai dernier.

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Gosh. The first half-baked announcement last week could be excused, now it looks like the uncertainty is done on purpose.
What a lame way to discourage travel…
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Old May 12, 21, 7:25 am
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Compared to the UK list of 43 red countries, most notable "touristic" omissions are Philippines. Maldives, Seychelles, Kenya.

added today: any news?

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Old May 14, 21, 3:31 am
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Interesting read about the details of unlocking plan for France. The part relative to travels is on pages 7 to 9.
https://www.gouvernement.fr/sites/de...e_mai_2021.pdf

From this paragraph on page 8 « Pour les voyageurs entrant en France, depuis un pays hors Union européenne, les flux touristiques seront réouverts à compter du 9 juin en fonction de la situation sanitaire de ces pays. », I understand it as the end of need for compelling reason to travel outside EU. Do you have the same reading as me ?
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Old May 14, 21, 3:47 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
Interesting read about the details of unlocking plan for France. The part relative to travels is on pages 7 to 9.
https://www.gouvernement.fr/sites/de...e_mai_2021.pdf

From this paragraph on page 8 « Pour les voyageurs entrant en France, depuis un pays hors Union européenne, les flux touristiques seront réouverts à compter du 9 juin en fonction de la situation sanitaire de ces pays. », I understand it as the end of need for compelling reason to travel outside EU. Do you have the same reading as me ?
I do have the same understanding than you

However, I am quite pessimistic about a total re-opening with the specification "en fonction de la situation sanitaire de ces pays".
When you look at how France is deciding to update its list of "red countries" every 3 days instead of having clear measures with a defined list that would allow people to plan their travels more easily.
I can understand that the country list has to be updated but every 3/4 days is a total joke ! The main objective is clearly to discourage people from travelling by adding more and more restrictions.
It does not matter, we will still keep financing AF while preventing them to recover from the crisis...
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From Le Parisien:

Quatre de plus. Le Bahreïn, la Colombie, le Costa Rica et l’Uruguay ont été ajoutés ce vendredi à la liste des pays concernés par la quarantaine obligatoire à l’arrivée en France, a annoncé Matignon. Les passagers en provenance de ces Etats devront désormais respecter dix jours d’isolement, dans un lieu défini par arrêté préfectoral.


https://leparisien.fr/societe/sante/...hp?xtor=AD-366
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Old May 14, 21, 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by brunos View Post
Compared to the UK list of 43 red countries, most notable "touristic" omissions are Philippines. Maldives, Seychelles, Kenya.

added today: any news?
brunos: Not one right! 😂
Though there remains a 5th unnamed country for the moment ...
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Old May 14, 21, 4:27 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
Do you have the same reading as me ?
Same reading as you. Though the ever-changing classification of countries is a Sword of Damocles that will be hanging on every travel. The silver lining is that vaccination is mentioned all over the document so vaccinated travellers might still get a break from all the bureaucratic nonsense.

By the way, the list of countries subjected to quarantine has been updated. It now also contains: Bahreïn, Colombia, Costa Rica and Uruguay. Edit: @blairvanhorn was faster
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France is working with the other EU countries to enable a "green pass" to recognize vaccinated/tested passengers... but it is still requiring its own residents that are already vaccinated in the French system, to provide a negative test to travel back to France!
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Old May 15, 21, 12:20 am
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"• S’agissant des pays dans lesquels le virus ne circule pas activement, et dans lesquels ne sont pas recensés de variants préoccupants (« pays verts »), les flux pourront reprendre selon des modalités largement assouplies.
• S’agissant des pays où le virus circule activement mais dans des proportions maîtrisées, et sans diffusion de variants préoccupants (« pays orange »), les conditions d’entrée en France seront plus restrictives, notamment pour les voyageurs non vaccinés."

these are loose terms.
The problem is that the variants of concern are now everywhere. The "sans diffusion de variants preoccupants" (without diffusion of variants of concern) applies to very very few countries. Certainly not USA. And not even Japan, South Korea, Israel or even SIngapore.
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On BFM-TV this afternoon (3 minute video clip via link); not really sure how this will work?! 🤔🤔

LES TESTS PCR SERONT GRATUITS POUR LES TOURISTES QUI VIENDRONT EN FRANCE CET ÉTÉ

Le secrétaire d'État chargé des Affaires européennes, Clément Beaune, y voit une façon de relancer l'activité touristique dans l'Hexagone, alors que certains pays font facturer les précieux tests plusieurs dizaines d'euros.

Les étrangers qui viennent en vacance en France cet été n'auront pas à payer pour réaliser un test PCR. C'est le secrétaire d'Etat chargé des Affaires européennes Clément Beaune qui l'a annoncé lors du Grand rendez-vous Europe 1-CNews-Les Echos ce dimanche, invité à détailler le fonctionnement du pass sanitaire, bientôt obligatoire pour voyager en Europe.

En comparaison de l'Hexagone, ce fameux dépistage peut coûter jusqu'à 120 euros en Espagne, détaille Clément Beaune. Au Royaume-Uni, il faut également débourser plus de 100 livres (116 euros) pour se faire tester. En Suède, le prix monte jusqu'à 300 euros.

Pour les voyageurs en provenance de ces pays, la gratuité du test représentera donc un facteur d'attractivité, argue le secrétaire d'État.

Un tarif réduit à l'étude

Mais qu'en est-il des Français qui voudraient s'y rendre, quand il sera possible de voyager plus facilement cet été? Sur cette question, des débats sont en cours.

"Le Parlement européen demande en ce moment à ce que les tests soient gratuits partout en Europe, mais je ne peux pas dire aujourd'hui si tout le monde acceptera", indique Clément Beaune.

Un tarif réduit, et harmonisé entre les pays, serait également à l'étude.
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Old May 16, 21, 10:31 am
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On BFM-TV this afternoon (3 minute video clip via link); not really sure how this will work?! 🤔🤔
I can see that helping low-cost tourism a lot. 2 full-price PCR tests in Germany and Sweden are way more expensive than a cheap return-ticket between 2 EU countries.

Honestly I've been expecting some kind of competition between countries & airports to provide cheaper and more convenient PCR tests options for a long time now. If PCR tests are to stay even when everyone is vaccinated, let's stop paying >200€, in a downtown lab, for a test that "might arrive within 48/72h". That was acceptable one year ago, it's a joke now.
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Old May 16, 21, 10:34 am
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I might be wrong but weren’t tests already free before? I took a couple of them since last year and never had to pay, though I’m not affiliated with Amelie and my SS number has been inactive for a while now.
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Old May 16, 21, 10:36 am
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I France, yes. In Germany/Spain, far from it (haven't visited nearby countries lately but it looks like it's not free either).
I think that was Clément Beaune's point.
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I might be wrong but weren’t tests already free before? I took a couple of them since last year and never had to pay, though I’m not affiliated with Amelie and my SS number has been inactive for a while now.
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I France, yes. In Germany/Spain, far from it (haven't visited nearby countries lately but it looks like it's not free either).
I think that was Clément Beaune's point.
According to my experience last February:
France: Free if one has SS number but not for non-EU citizen (however usually reimbursed by private health insurance plan).
Portugal: French citizen have to pay, unless providing a medical instruction and being affiliated to EU SS.
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Data point for my return trip IAD -> CDG -> FRA

PCR checked at IAD primarily for the purposes of France.
Arrival registration checked at IAD for Germany.

Upon arrival at CDG, PCR verified at the entrance to the queue for passport control.
However, upon disembarquement there was a SQ flight from Singapour at the same time that had police doing spot checks of their documentations for that group. So these are aléatoire/random.

My rapid antigen test was never controlled for the flight to Frankfurt/Main, and not on arrival either. The gate agent at CDG just asked us verbally if we had it.

I'd done both a PCR and rapid test in the US; thankfully at no cost.
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