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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.

La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore, Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.

*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.

In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :

(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).

From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)


From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1


From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1


From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1


From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1


From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1


From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55


From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1


From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1


From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00


From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)



Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.

These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)

Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)

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Old May 24, 2022, 10:27 am
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Whoa, now that's exciting news if it happens... seat, sofa and a fully flat bed. And on more planes.

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Old May 24, 2022, 11:37 am
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There are some rendering already, it seems, with 5 windows (!!) per seat!


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I seem to recall seeing that this new cabin is being previewed at Cannes this week at the Martinez, non?
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Similar idea to EY A380 First Apartment, it seems. The rendering has the sofa facing opposite instead of EY way. Wonder if AF will add a shower as well
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Old May 25, 2022, 11:40 am
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Does anyone have a current list of AF P routes?
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Old May 25, 2022, 10:02 pm
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Question: Is there any difference in ground service between booking La Premiere as a Delta codeshare versus booking direct with Air France? Not sure why this is the case but I see certain Amex IAP fares only as Delta codeshares.

Also, does anyone know what time the P dining room at JFK is open? Is there still sufficient time to use it before the 4:30pm flight?

Finally, is there any available arrivals lounge at CDG for P passengers?

Thanks for any insight.
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Old May 25, 2022, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by CappuccinoAddict
Question: Is there any difference in ground service between booking La Premiere as a Delta codeshare versus booking direct with Air France? Not sure why this is the case but I see certain Amex IAP fares only as Delta codeshares.
From experience, there is no difference whether you are traveling on a 006 DL or 057 AF ticket. As you've noticed, DL codeshare tickets can be cheaper. For that very reason, most of my purchased AF tickets have been DL codeshares on DL ticket stock.
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Old May 25, 2022, 10:34 pm
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There is no arrival lounge in CDG. Unless you have a same day onward connection, in which case you're taken to the La Première lounge.
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Old May 26, 2022, 1:06 am
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Check-in for AF flights at JFK currently opens at 1pm. For P class pax the La Premiere lounge is always open after check-in.
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Thank you for the responses, everyone! All very good to know.
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Old May 26, 2022, 5:44 pm
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Newbie here who's just stumbled across this websites as I was googling questions I had about AF LP. I am flying LP for the first time next week from JFK-CDG and back and on the return leg it is a full cabin. How were your experiences in flying in a full cabin? Is service any different? If 1E is empty from 1A, could I ask to use it as a bed even if there are people in 1F and 1L? Also, I heard some bad stories from some people about AF flight attendants being rude to certain minorities but have you experienced/seen such a case?

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Old May 26, 2022, 5:54 pm
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Newbie here who's just stumbled across this websites as I was googling questions I had about AF LP. I am flying LP for the first time next week from JFK-CDG and back and on the return leg it is a full cabin. How were your experiences in flying in a full cabin? Is service any different? If 1E is empty from 1A, could I ask to use it as a bed even if there are people in 1F and 1L? Also, I heard some bad stories from some people about AF flight attendants being rude to certain minorities but have you experienced/seen such a case?

Sorry for asking so many questions and truly appreciate the input.
For my own part, as a Lifetime Air France Platinum member who has traveled quite a lot in business and first class, the answer is you will have no worries about service in a busy cabin nor treatment as a minority. And your own seat will be made up as a bed upon your request. Generally after you enjoy a very nice meal.
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Old May 26, 2022, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Buster CT1K
Does anyone have a current list of AF P routes?
It appears the IAH will no longer be a P route. 77W and P are gone as of 7/5 replaced by a combination of 772 or 789 going forward.
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Now this may be one of the most elegant eyeshades in the skies, but probably not the best choice for blocking out light.



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