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Old May 16, 22, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Fc912 View Post
AF11 last week.

Forgot to take a picture of the menu. Same wine list as the one SFO777 shared up thread. Food was…lacklustre. I liked the new Sisley amenity kit though.
Thanks for the heads up as I'm flying this same flight in a few weeks. How was the AF escort through security and the LP lounge at JFK?
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Old May 16, 22, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by physicsdude View Post
Thanks for the heads up as I'm flying this same flight in a few weeks. How was the AF escort through security and the LP lounge at JFK?
The escort was useful. We were escorted through the regular lane and brought to the front of the line. Always a little awkward as people watch you cut the line. The escort to the plane could also have been better handled - they only brought us to the gate after general boarding has started so we had to make our way through the crowd, and inevitably people thought we were trying to cut the line and a couple of them were pretty nasty about it (well I guess we were but…).

LP lounge in JFK has never been anything to write home about in my experience. The service was fine but sloppy and food was just ok (i think it’s the same menu they’re offering in the general lounge for “night service” but plated better). They were also only serving the regular Taittinger and Laurent Perrier Rose. No Grand Siecle available.
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Old May 17, 22, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by Fc912 View Post
The escort was useful. We were escorted through the regular lane and brought to the front of the line. Always a little awkward as people watch you cut the line. The escort to the plane could also have been better handled - they only brought us to the gate after general boarding has started so we had to make our way through the crowd, and inevitably people thought we were trying to cut the line and a couple of them were pretty nasty about it (well I guess we were but…).

LP lounge in JFK has never been anything to write home about in my experience. The service was fine but sloppy and food was just ok (i think it’s the same menu they’re offering in the general lounge for “night service” but plated better). They were also only serving the regular Taittinger and Laurent Perrier Rose. No Grand Siecle available.
Here is a tip about JFK: if you qualify for and want precheck service, where you can leave your laptop in your bag, tell the escort that you want the precheck lane. This can be different than the lane they normally use.
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Old May 17, 22, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by Fc912 View Post
... They were also only serving the regular Taittinger and Laurent Perrier Rose. No Grand Siecle available.
Same on the GS when I was there mid-March (though it was printed on the carte.)
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Old May 17, 22, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Fc912 View Post
The escort was useful. We were escorted through the regular lane and brought to the front of the line. Always a little awkward as people watch you cut the line. The escort to the plane could also have been better handled - they only brought us to the gate after general boarding has started so we had to make our way through the crowd, and inevitably people thought we were trying to cut the line and a couple of them were pretty nasty about it (well I guess we were but…).
I'm really surprised that you were escorted to the plane during general boarding. I had always thought it would be before anyone had boarded or after everyone had boarded. Seems quite subpar to do this in the middle.
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Old May 17, 22, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by global_b View Post
I'm really surprised that you were escorted to the plane during general boarding. I had always thought it would be before anyone had boarded or after everyone had boarded. Seems quite subpar to do this in the middle.
IME you can always choose when you want to board. First or last or in the middle if you like. Ditto for any AF feeder flight you are on.
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Old May 17, 22, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by stimpy View Post
IME you can always choose when you want to board. First or last or in the middle if you like. Ditto for any AF feeder flight you are on.
That has been my experience at JFK. They ask you upfront and also come to the LP room early to see if you want to go first.
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Old May 17, 22, 5:26 pm
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For what it's worth re: wine, there is a recent thread in the Emirates forum about disappointing wine choices in F as well in recent months.
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Old May 18, 22, 3:31 am
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Originally Posted by NYC1 View Post
That has been my experience at JFK. They ask you upfront and also come to the LP room early to see if you want to go first.
We did say we wanted to board before general boarding but the flight ended up being delayed over two hours and only one escort showed up for all four passengers in P. He was very nice and apologetic but said all the other escorts have gone home so he was the only one left which probably explained the delay.
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Old May 18, 22, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by Fc912 View Post
We did say we wanted to board before general boarding but the flight ended up being delayed over two hours and only one escort showed up for all four passengers in P. He was very nice and apologetic but said all the other escorts have gone home so he was the only one left which probably explained the delay.
Ooof. Terrible. At least it wasn't the case that all of them went home!
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Old May 18, 22, 8:52 am
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Here's the thing about pre-boarding at JFK. No one really knows when the aircraft is actually going to be ready for boarding, due to cabin preparation, until it is ready. Unless boarding at Gate 2, pre-boarding is pretty hit or miss due to no one's fault. T1 is super busy due to more flights now, more taxi-way delays on arrivals, and turnaround times are thus more unpredictable. For an on-time flight, boarding can begin anywhere from 30 minutes early, or 15 minutes late. There is no crystal ball for this. While the desire to have on-time departures is in everyone's interest, it's unfortunately unrealistic to delay general boarding if the aircraft is ready early, when it could take 15 minutes to get P class pax from the lounge to the aircraft. Recommend post boarding if one wants to ensure a more exclusive experience.
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Old May 18, 22, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by adambrau View Post
Here's the thing about pre-boarding at JFK. No one really knows when the aircraft is actually going to be ready for boarding, due to cabin preparation, until it is ready.
Thanks for the very useful information. I agree with boarding last at JFK. And CDG in many cases. Even in business class I prefer to board last at CDG.
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Old May 18, 22, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by adambrau View Post
Here's the thing about pre-boarding at JFK. No one really knows when the aircraft is actually going to be ready for boarding, due to cabin preparation, until it is ready. Unless boarding at Gate 2, pre-boarding is pretty hit or miss due to no one's fault. T1 is super busy due to more flights now, more taxi-way delays on arrivals, and turnaround times are thus more unpredictable. For an on-time flight, boarding can begin anywhere from 30 minutes early, or 15 minutes late. There is no crystal ball for this. While the desire to have on-time departures is in everyone's interest, it's unfortunately unrealistic to delay general boarding if the aircraft is ready early, when it could take 15 minutes to get P class pax from the lounge to the aircraft. Recommend post boarding if one wants to ensure a more exclusive experience.
I will note that at JFK I have within the last 6 months preboarded twice in P without issue. It was seamlessly coordinated by the ground staff after I informed them that I would like to preboard. It is true that both times it was not a long walk from the JFK lounge.
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Old May 18, 22, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Buster CT1K View Post
I will note that at JFK I have within the last 6 months preboarded twice in P without issue. It was seamlessly coordinated by the ground staff after I informed them that I would like to preboard. It is true that both times it was not a long walk from the JFK lounge.
I also find the AF ground staff at JFK very good but the airport and T1 are a crap shoot. When things aren't off, I find that it's fine pre-boarding and taking it easy at the seat. When things are off track, I will board last--no need to be part of the $hit show that is T1.
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Old May 24, 22, 9:59 am
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La Premiere New Cabin

Looks like La Premiere will be getting a new cabin next winter. There are no images yet, but I'm looking forward to seeing what it will look like!

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