Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
May 16, 2022, 2:48 pm
#1081
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue Gold, BA Bronze, Ex-skywards Platnium
Posts: 646
Thanks for the heads up as I'm flying this same flight in a few weeks. How was the AF escort through security and the LP lounge at JFK?
May 16, 2022, 3:54 pm
#1082
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 181
LP lounge in JFK has never been anything to write home about in my experience. The service was fine but sloppy and food was just ok (i think it’s the same menu they’re offering in the general lounge for “night service” but plated better). They were also only serving the regular Taittinger and Laurent Perrier Rose. No Grand Siecle available.
May 17, 2022, 9:59 am
#1083
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA ExecPlat; AF Gold; UA GS; Hyatt L. Globalist; Marriott Plat; Hilton Diamond; National EE
Posts: 6,156
The escort was useful. We were escorted through the regular lane and brought to the front of the line. Always a little awkward as people watch you cut the line. The escort to the plane could also have been better handled - they only brought us to the gate after general boarding has started so we had to make our way through the crowd, and inevitably people thought we were trying to cut the line and a couple of them were pretty nasty about it (well I guess we were but…).
LP lounge in JFK has never been anything to write home about in my experience. The service was fine but sloppy and food was just ok (i think it’s the same menu they’re offering in the general lounge for “night service” but plated better). They were also only serving the regular Taittinger and Laurent Perrier Rose. No Grand Siecle available.
LP lounge in JFK has never been anything to write home about in my experience. The service was fine but sloppy and food was just ok (i think it’s the same menu they’re offering in the general lounge for “night service” but plated better). They were also only serving the regular Taittinger and Laurent Perrier Rose. No Grand Siecle available.
May 17, 2022, 10:19 am
#1084
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: FB Platinum, AA Plat/2MM, SPG Plat/LT Gold
Posts: 379
May 17, 2022, 12:49 pm
#1085
Join Date: May 2004
Location: EWR
Programs: SQ - Gold; HHonors - Silver
Posts: 226
The escort was useful. We were escorted through the regular lane and brought to the front of the line. Always a little awkward as people watch you cut the line. The escort to the plane could also have been better handled - they only brought us to the gate after general boarding has started so we had to make our way through the crowd, and inevitably people thought we were trying to cut the line and a couple of them were pretty nasty about it (well I guess we were but…).
May 17, 2022, 1:13 pm
#1086
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Seat 1A, Juice pretty much everywhere, Mucci des Coins Exotiques
Posts: 34,339
IME you can always choose when you want to board. First or last or in the middle if you like. Ditto for any AF feeder flight you are on.
May 17, 2022, 5:21 pm
#1087
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,904
May 17, 2022, 5:26 pm
#1088
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, NY
Programs: AA ExPl, DL PM, UA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium, probably some others
Posts: 4,076
For what it's worth re: wine, there is a recent thread in the Emirates forum about disappointing wine choices in F as well in recent months.
May 18, 2022, 3:31 am
#1089
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 181
We did say we wanted to board before general boarding but the flight ended up being delayed over two hours and only one escort showed up for all four passengers in P. He was very nice and apologetic but said all the other escorts have gone home so he was the only one left which probably explained the delay.
May 18, 2022, 8:03 am
#1090
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA ExecPlat; AF Gold; UA GS; Hyatt L. Globalist; Marriott Plat; Hilton Diamond; National EE
Posts: 6,156
We did say we wanted to board before general boarding but the flight ended up being delayed over two hours and only one escort showed up for all four passengers in P. He was very nice and apologetic but said all the other escorts have gone home so he was the only one left which probably explained the delay.
May 18, 2022, 8:52 am
#1091
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: UA MileagePlus 2MM
Posts: 1,567
Here's the thing about pre-boarding at JFK. No one really knows when the aircraft is actually going to be ready for boarding, due to cabin preparation, until it is ready. Unless boarding at Gate 2, pre-boarding is pretty hit or miss due to no one's fault. T1 is super busy due to more flights now, more taxi-way delays on arrivals, and turnaround times are thus more unpredictable. For an on-time flight, boarding can begin anywhere from 30 minutes early, or 15 minutes late. There is no crystal ball for this. While the desire to have on-time departures is in everyone's interest, it's unfortunately unrealistic to delay general boarding if the aircraft is ready early, when it could take 15 minutes to get P class pax from the lounge to the aircraft. Recommend post boarding if one wants to ensure a more exclusive experience.
Last edited by adambrau; May 18, 2022 at 9:00 am
May 18, 2022, 8:59 am
#1092
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Seat 1A, Juice pretty much everywhere, Mucci des Coins Exotiques
Posts: 34,339
Thanks for the very useful information. I agree with boarding last at JFK. And CDG in many cases. Even in business class I prefer to board last at CDG.
May 18, 2022, 11:05 am
#1093
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA ExecPlat; AF Gold; UA GS; Hyatt L. Globalist; Marriott Plat; Hilton Diamond; National EE
Posts: 6,156
Here's the thing about pre-boarding at JFK. No one really knows when the aircraft is actually going to be ready for boarding, due to cabin preparation, until it is ready. Unless boarding at Gate 2, pre-boarding is pretty hit or miss due to no one's fault. T1 is super busy due to more flights now, more taxi-way delays on arrivals, and turnaround times are thus more unpredictable. For an on-time flight, boarding can begin anywhere from 30 minutes early, or 15 minutes late. There is no crystal ball for this. While the desire to have on-time departures is in everyone's interest, it's unfortunately unrealistic to delay general boarding if the aircraft is ready early, when it could take 15 minutes to get P class pax from the lounge to the aircraft. Recommend post boarding if one wants to ensure a more exclusive experience.
May 18, 2022, 1:25 pm
#1094
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,904
I also find the AF ground staff at JFK very good but the airport and T1 are a crap shoot. When things aren't off, I find that it's fine pre-boarding and taking it easy at the seat. When things are off track, I will board last--no need to be part of the $hit show that is T1.
May 24, 2022, 9:59 am
#1095
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: LAS
Programs: Hilton, Delta, Hyatt, MGM
Posts: 190
La Premiere New Cabin
Looks like La Premiere will be getting a new cabin next winter. There are no images yet, but I'm looking forward to seeing what it will look like!
Last edited by vegasbased; May 24, 2022 at 9:59 am Reason: Typo Error