Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
Oct 13, 2020, 3:35 pm
#181
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Normally not you'll need to clear immigration that used to be done in P lounge which is closed for the moment.
So you'll be escorted from 2F to 2E to clear immigration by walk. At least, that's what happened to me again yesterday while flying to GRU
So you'll be escorted from 2F to 2E to clear immigration by walk. At least, that's what happened to me again yesterday while flying to GRU
Oct 13, 2020, 8:24 pm
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Oct 13, 2020, 8:30 pm
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Nov 10, 2020, 5:19 pm
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I think food and wine pictures are missing from this thread 
My last flight from CDG to MEX (was the only one P passenger and we were 46 in total
).
Renovation in P lounge in CDG is finished but they do not plan to reopen soon (as long as the number of P passengers is not increasing).
P cabin will not be offered to GRU or GIG before at least April 21.
Now, time for some pictures !
The Bordeaux Château La Dominique 2015 is incredible
My last flight from CDG to MEX (was the only one P passenger and we were 46 in total
).Renovation in P lounge in CDG is finished but they do not plan to reopen soon (as long as the number of P passengers is not increasing).
P cabin will not be offered to GRU or GIG before at least April 21.
Now, time for some pictures !
The Bordeaux Château La Dominique 2015 is incredible
Nov 10, 2020, 5:36 pm
#185
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Seems like business (or should I say first?) as usual in La Première!
Interesting that they are waiting for more F traffic. Wouldn't be surprised if there was only single digit loads on the daily throughout network. What destinations are served these days anyway?
TYO, PVG (ICN), DXB, MEX, JNB, ABJ, MEX, JFK, IAD, MIA, SFO, LAX
Most of which aren't even daily, thats not much. And still no news when it comes to the two "loisirs" 77W that were supposed to be fitted with the Best cabins and F? Or the A350s that were supposed to get F?
Interesting that they are waiting for more F traffic. Wouldn't be surprised if there was only single digit loads on the daily throughout network. What destinations are served these days anyway?
TYO, PVG (ICN), DXB, MEX, JNB, ABJ, MEX, JFK, IAD, MIA, SFO, LAX
Most of which aren't even daily, thats not much. And still no news when it comes to the two "loisirs" 77W that were supposed to be fitted with the Best cabins and F? Or the A350s that were supposed to get F?
Nov 11, 2020, 2:01 am
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Thank you !! 
. It looks delicious.
Too bad for GRU. But GIG didn't have P for at least 10 or 15 years, unless I am mistaken.
Not surprising, unfortunately. 
. It looks delicious. Too bad for GRU. But GIG didn't have P for at least 10 or 15 years, unless I am mistaken.
Nov 11, 2020, 2:30 am
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There were a few flights, but really very few, in 2019 I believe, that had P to GIG. But I think that was more for dispatching of aircraft reasons than a deliberate decision to make GIG a P market. I so would have been on that flight... But GIG is actually treated badly. Gets the NEV4 777-300ERs, and sometimes a second flight on the A330
Nov 11, 2020, 2:42 am
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Seems like business (or should I say first?) as usual in La Première!
Interesting that they are waiting for more F traffic. Wouldn't be surprised if there was only single digit loads on the daily throughout network. What destinations are served these days anyway?
TYO, PVG (ICN), DXB, MEX, JNB, ABJ, MEX, JFK, IAD, MIA, SFO, LAX
Most of which aren't even daily, thats not much. And still no news when it comes to the two "loisirs" 77W that were supposed to be fitted with the Best cabins and F? Or the A350s that were supposed to get F?
Interesting that they are waiting for more F traffic. Wouldn't be surprised if there was only single digit loads on the daily throughout network. What destinations are served these days anyway?
TYO, PVG (ICN), DXB, MEX, JNB, ABJ, MEX, JFK, IAD, MIA, SFO, LAX
Most of which aren't even daily, thats not much. And still no news when it comes to the two "loisirs" 77W that were supposed to be fitted with the Best cabins and F? Or the A350s that were supposed to get F?
Nov 11, 2020, 2:46 am
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Seems like business (or should I say first?) as usual in La Première!
Interesting that they are waiting for more F traffic. Wouldn't be surprised if there was only single digit loads on the daily throughout network. What destinations are served these days anyway?
TYO, PVG (ICN), DXB, MEX, JNB, ABJ, MEX, JFK, IAD, MIA, SFO, LAX
Most of which aren't even daily, thats not much. And still no news when it comes to the two "loisirs" 77W that were supposed to be fitted with the Best cabins and F? Or the A350s that were supposed to get F?
Interesting that they are waiting for more F traffic. Wouldn't be surprised if there was only single digit loads on the daily throughout network. What destinations are served these days anyway?
TYO, PVG (ICN), DXB, MEX, JNB, ABJ, MEX, JFK, IAD, MIA, SFO, LAX
Most of which aren't even daily, thats not much. And still no news when it comes to the two "loisirs" 77W that were supposed to be fitted with the Best cabins and F? Or the A350s that were supposed to get F?
Nov 11, 2020, 2:50 am
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LX: 31 planes equipped with F (and 8 F seats too).
LH: 19 planes equipped with F (and 8 F seats too).
AF: 43 77Ws, so 43 planes equipped with F (and those are 4 seats each).
This assumes retirement from LH of all F-equipped planes but the 748, and retirement of all AF A380s.
LH: 19 planes equipped with F (and 8 F seats too).
AF: 43 77Ws, so 43 planes equipped with F (and those are 4 seats each).
This assumes retirement from LH of all F-equipped planes but the 748, and retirement of all AF A380s.
Nov 11, 2020, 3:04 am
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Nov 11, 2020, 5:34 am
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LX: 31 planes equipped with F (and 8 F seats too).
LH: 19 planes equipped with F (and 8 F seats too).
AF: 43 77Ws, so 43 planes equipped with F (and those are 4 seats each).
This assumes retirement from LH of all F-equipped planes but the 748, and retirement of all AF A380s.
LH: 19 planes equipped with F (and 8 F seats too).
AF: 43 77Ws, so 43 planes equipped with F (and those are 4 seats each).
This assumes retirement from LH of all F-equipped planes but the 748, and retirement of all AF A380s.
LH has 19 748 and 10 A346 with 8 seats , total 232 seats.
But you are right that LH is basically stopping F service to use small planes.
AF probably has very, very few rev F pax every day (our own matmatlr is an exception),
Last edited by brunos; Nov 11, 2020 at 5:44 am
Nov 11, 2020, 5:55 am
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AF only has 19 77W with 4 F seats., total 76 seats
LH has 19 748 and 10 A346 with 8 seats , total 232 seats.
But you are right that LH is basically stopping F service to use small planes.
AF probably has very, very few rev F pax every day (our own matmatlr is an exception),
LH has 19 748 and 10 A346 with 8 seats , total 232 seats.
But you are right that LH is basically stopping F service to use small planes.
AF probably has very, very few rev F pax every day (our own matmatlr is an exception),
