GVA-CDG in the age of Covid 19
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#32
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Well, I went in on Thursday Morning, prior to the 07:20 to Paris.
It is a vast, vast improvement. A lot lighter, no longer a grim yellow and more seating options. I would call it a success.
The breakfast offer was all packaged foods and muffins. All self service.
Really quiet compared to normal times though.
In fact Geneva airport was shockingly empty again.
Will be back soon.
It is a vast, vast improvement. A lot lighter, no longer a grim yellow and more seating options. I would call it a success.
The breakfast offer was all packaged foods and muffins. All self service.
Really quiet compared to normal times though.
In fact Geneva airport was shockingly empty again.
Will be back soon.
#34
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https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-11-2...s-5224250.html
sorry in French. As a summary: French sector is now closed (and I hope, it will never reopen )
does it mean Air France lounge is no longer accessible?
sorry in French. As a summary: French sector is now closed (and I hope, it will never reopen )
does it mean Air France lounge is no longer accessible?
#35
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https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-11-2...s-5224250.html
sorry in French. As a summary: French sector is now closed (and I hope, it will never reopen )
does it mean Air France lounge is no longer accessible?
sorry in French. As a summary: French sector is now closed (and I hope, it will never reopen )
does it mean Air France lounge is no longer accessible?
This means access to the full boutique and restaurant choice in the Swiss sector, which is larger and more pleasant. Also, it means for flights on LX one can use their SEN/FCL lounges (when they open, and if the French side doesn't open again).
For the AF lounge, I do not know the answer, but I don't see any need to close it. There is a door from the Swiss side, for KL pax, and then one could still exit as usual on the French side towards the gates. I do not think that they have closed the F6x gate space, they have just made it accessible from the Swiss side. Or do planes leave from Swiss-side gates? If they do, still not a problem for the lounge, just go out through the same door you came in on the Swiss side.
I'll fly in 10 days and will report, although presumably someone else will have been there before.
#37
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So I flew CDG-GVA the other night and the flight was operated by Hop! as the Geneva route has been for a while now. It was dreadful, staff were so unfriendly and not even a Hello. I thought this apology of an airline was being phased out, but I read in Air Journal today that it was staying to operate domestic and shorthaul as Air France operated by Hop! So presumably it will keep its AOC but not operate flights under its own code. Previously it had its own revenue system and marketing team, but all that will be subsumed into Air France. Sounds a bit like what happened to Germanwings at the end (and who misses that).
#38
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This Morning (Thursday) at 10:00, AF and KLM had two seperate checkin zones, next to each other, in the main terminal.
It was a mess, it took me 30 mins to check in my bag using Sky Priority for the KLM flight. It felt we had gone backwards big time.
The lounge still has and will keep Air France Staff ! It is still a place of peace and professionalism.
To note the self service for the refreshments has now ended ( both food and drinks ), you are now assisted by a member of the team.
Happy travels.
It was a mess, it took me 30 mins to check in my bag using Sky Priority for the KLM flight. It felt we had gone backwards big time.
The lounge still has and will keep Air France Staff ! It is still a place of peace and professionalism.
To note the self service for the refreshments has now ended ( both food and drinks ), you are now assisted by a member of the team.
Happy travels.
#39
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Just further on the subject of flight attendants, I was reading a review of Aeromexico in business class on Simple Flying, which was apparently excellent in all respects. But the author made this comment about cabin crew, which I think is spot on:
Flying through the pandemic, there are two different types of flight attendants. The first type is thankful to have people onboard the aircraft after months of pain and ache, which continues, and they do their best to make passengers feel welcome and safe. The second type is more upset about the ongoing crisis, a little drained, and less enthusiastic to see passengers.
I would say that the second type very much applies to Hop! cabin crew, at least, on all my recent flights which include a lot of Hop! operated CDG-GVA and vv.
Flying through the pandemic, there are two different types of flight attendants. The first type is thankful to have people onboard the aircraft after months of pain and ache, which continues, and they do their best to make passengers feel welcome and safe. The second type is more upset about the ongoing crisis, a little drained, and less enthusiastic to see passengers.
I would say that the second type very much applies to Hop! cabin crew, at least, on all my recent flights which include a lot of Hop! operated CDG-GVA and vv.
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Just further on the subject of flight attendants, I was reading a review of Aeromexico in business class on Simple Flying, which was apparently excellent in all respects. But the author made this comment about cabin crew, which I think is spot on:
Flying through the pandemic, there are two different types of flight attendants. The first type is thankful to have people onboard the aircraft after months of pain and ache, which continues, and they do their best to make passengers feel welcome and safe. The second type is more upset about the ongoing crisis, a little drained, and less enthusiastic to see passengers.
I would say that the second type very much applies to Hop! cabin crew, at least, on all my recent flights which include a lot of Hop! operated CDG-GVA and vv.
Flying through the pandemic, there are two different types of flight attendants. The first type is thankful to have people onboard the aircraft after months of pain and ache, which continues, and they do their best to make passengers feel welcome and safe. The second type is more upset about the ongoing crisis, a little drained, and less enthusiastic to see passengers.
I would say that the second type very much applies to Hop! cabin crew, at least, on all my recent flights which include a lot of Hop! operated CDG-GVA and vv.
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Yes, I'm sure you are right, there are probably a lot of good and motivated crews. Maybe they are down and have low morale at the moment because of the airline being closed, or downgraded. To be honest, I am not exactly sure what has happened to them.
#45
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Out of 8 daily flights only 1 is currently operating, all others are cancelled. All CDG-ZRH cancelled. Is AF abandoning Switzerland?
I understand that there might not be any point to point demand, but what about potential transfer pax?
I understand that there might not be any point to point demand, but what about potential transfer pax?