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Old Jul 11, 2021, 1:24 am
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Post your upgrade offers to LP here. Dates are MMM YY

FROM PARIS:
CDG-MEX - Nov 20 - 999 EUR
CDG-MEX - Dec 21 - 989 EUR
CDG-LAX - Jul 21 - 2434 USD
CDG-DXB - Aug 21 - 1019 EUR
CDG-IAD - Aug 21 - 1500 EUR
CDG-JFK - Sep 21 - 2269 EUR
CDG-JNB - Sep 21 - 1400 EUR
CDG-IAH - Jan 22 - 1699 EUR
CDG-DXB - Feb 22 - 1225 USD
CDG-DXB - Apr 22 - 949 EUR
CDG-DXB - May 22 - 1089 EUR
CDG-SFO - Jun 22 - 1836 USD
CDG-DXB - Aug 22 - 979.20 USD (PP 2 tickets)
CDG-SFO - Oct 22 - 1862 USD
CDG-LAX - Nov 22 - 2589 EUR
CDG-DXB - Jan 23 - 1258 USD
CDG-SIN - Feb 23 - 1199 EUR
CDG-JFK - Mar 23 - 2459 EUR
CDG-GRU - Apr 23 - 1679€ at -30hrs, 1829€ at -28hrs until flight departure (empty P cabin)
CDG-SFO - Apr 28 - 2917 USD (PP 2 tickets); [P3F2 on EF]
CDG-JFK - Jul 23 - 2569 EUR
CDG-SIN - Aug 23 - 2289 EUR
CDG-SIN - Sep 23 - EUR 1849 / CAD 2676 - P4F3
CDG-MIA - Sep 23 - USD 2,547.80 at OLCI. Not available at T-24 but available again at T-17
CDG-SIN - Oct 1st - EUR 2039 — P2F1. Flying blue platinum
CDG-SFO - Apr 24 - EUR 2639 / 329900 miles (offered on award to FB Gold)

TO PARIS:
SFO-CDG - Dec 19 - $2500 USD
LAX-CDG - Oct 20 - $2800 USD
MEX-CDG - Dec 21 - $1322 USD / 1699 CAD / 1181 EUR
JFK-CDG - Aug 21 - $2700 USD
LAX-CDG - Oct 21 - $2747 USD
SFO-CDG - Nov 21 - $2047 USD
DXB-CDG - Nov 21 - €1049 / US$1189
DXB-CDG - Apr 22 - 4850AED/1250EUR
JFK-CDG - Dec 21 - $2500 USD
JFK-CDG - Feb 22 - 2009 EUR
SFO-CDG - Feb 22 - $2013 USD
LAX-CDG - Apr 22 - $2710 USD
SFO-CDG - July 22 - $2,694 @ 30 hour, then $1,789 after 5-10 min interval (after two of four seats taken per EF)
DXB-CDG - Sept 5 - $1018 USD
LAX-CDG - Nov 22 - $2669 USD
LAX-CDG - Dec 31 - $1870 USD @ 30 hour
LAX-CDG - Jan 23 $3137 USD
SFO-CDG - Jan ‘23 $1865 USD @ 30 hour OLCI (or 219K miles)
DXB-CDG - JAN 23 $1459.10 USD @ 30 hour
DXB-CDG - MAR 23 1457 GBP @ 30 hour
GRU-CDG - FEB 23 - 1645GBP - OLCI 30h
JFK-CDG - APR 23 - 4469 EUR - OLCI 30h then 2.5k EUR at the airport
GRU-CDG (04/23) for a P1F0 flight : no offer at -30hrs. 2019€ at -5hrs.
DXB-CDG - May 23 - 2,149 EUR or 268,600 miles - OLCI
GRU-CDG - Jul 23 - 2490 € or 259000 miles @ T3 ticket counter
IAD-CDG - Aug 23 - $1797.50 @ IAD AF Lounge
SIN-CDG - Aug 23 - USD 1861
SIN-CDG - Aug 23 - CHF1600
SIN-CDG - Aug 23 - EUR 1849
MIA-CDG - Sep 23 - USD 2080 or 243700 Miles
DXB-CDG - Nov 23 - AED6250 @ check-in counter (not offered at OLCI)
SFO-CDG - Dec 23 - USD 4964
HND-CDG - Jan 24 - EUR 1899


NOTE ON GETTING OLCI OFFER ON OAL ORIGINATING:
If the AF LP flight segment is down line from your originating segment operated by another airline which forces you to use the OAL’s checkin system, you can manually use the AF website to check-in for the downline AF flight and still get the offer. For example, GRU-MEX-CDG sold as AM14 / AM 6103 (operated as AF179), you can checkin via AM as usual. Before or after, go to the AF website for the currency you want to pay for the upgrade in. Check-in using just your PNR / Lastname and the AF flight number you want to check-in for. It will allow a mid-trip check-in and will offer the LP upgrade if eligible.
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Old Mar 24, 2022, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by celsdon
Would people say it's worth it to upgrade to La Premiere if you are a solo passenger and end up in one of the centre seats? I have a flight CDG-SFO and was interested to see if this impacts the flight enough to not pull the trigger on an upgrade.
While it's not "as good" as being by the window, that alone would not make me not do it.
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Old Mar 24, 2022, 9:17 am
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Thanks I thought that would be the case
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Old Apr 11, 2022, 8:56 pm
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I’ve got two trips this summer in J: TIJ-MEX-CDG and then DXB-CDG.

For Trip 1: I’m flying AM and connecting to AF in MEX. I see posts about manually checking into my AF flight 30 hours prior to departure, even though my first segment is operated by AM. How do I access this feature on the AF website to get the UG offer?

For Trip 2: If I’m offered the opportunity to UG to LP and the price is right, what lounge do LP pax use in DXB? How’s the ground experience?


Finally, 2 quick questions:

1) Does fare class impact the price of the UG? For example, to cost of upgrading from Z vs. full J would be higher. (Similar to what KL does.)

2) Does UG to LP also impact mileage earnings (i.e., more miles)? Specifically, I’m a Delta Medallion member and curious if the ticket is reissued as revenue LP.
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Old Apr 11, 2022, 11:46 pm
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Originally Posted by UVAhoo06
I’ve got two trips this summer in J: TIJ-MEX-CDG and then DXB-CDG.

For Trip 1: I’m flying AM and connecting to AF in MEX. I see posts about manually checking into my AF flight 30 hours prior to departure, even though my first segment is operated by AM. How do I access this feature on the AF website to get the UG offer?

For Trip 2: If I’m offered the opportunity to UG to LP and the price is right, what lounge do LP pax use in DXB? How’s the ground experience?


Finally, 2 quick questions:

1) Does fare class impact the price of the UG? For example, to cost of upgrading from Z vs. full J would be higher. (Similar to what KL does.)

2) Does UG to LP also impact mileage earnings (i.e., more miles)? Specifically, I’m a Delta Medallion member and curious if the ticket is reissued as revenue LP.
You should look in the AF app, that will be the most convenient. Do not create a FB account (you don't need this to use the app), as it will create a big mess with your SM account and your miles are likely to end up in the FB account. Import the booking in AF app and look at the seat map and see if you can see the P cabin. If the case, the price of the upgrade will be mentioned in the legend at the bottom. If OK, you can change your seat and pay the upgrade price.
If you can't see the P cabin, it means that there is no offer for you. You can ask again at MEX at the counter.
In DXB, you will benefit from the Marhaba Meet & Greet ground service (escort from check-in through immigration and security to lounge and from lounge to plane). The lounge used for P pax is the Ahlan lounge. You can read a review with picture in the AF lounge thread.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33805531-post1864.html

For your other questions :
1) nobody knows the details of the very mysterious algorithm of AFKL paid upgrades. From all the data points we have collected, it seems it plays a minor role.
2) No, you will earn the miles of your originally booked fare/cabin
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Old Apr 12, 2022, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
You should look in the AF app, that will be the most convenient. Do not create a FB account (you don't need this to use the app), as it will create a big mess with your SM account and your miles are likely to end up in the FB account. Import the booking in AF app and look at the seat map and see if you can see the P cabin. If the case, the price of the upgrade will be mentioned in the legend at the bottom. If OK, you can change your seat and pay the upgrade price.
If you can't see the P cabin, it means that there is no offer for you. You can ask again at MEX at the counter.
In DXB, you will benefit from the Marhaba Meet & Greet ground service (escort from check-in through immigration and security to lounge and from lounge to plane). The lounge used for P pax is the Ahlan lounge. You can read a review with picture in the AF lounge thread.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33805531-post1864.html

For your other questions :
1) nobody knows the details of the very mysterious algorithm of AFKL paid upgrades. From all the data points we have collected, it seems it plays a minor role.
2) No, you will earn the miles of your originally booked fare/cabin
Thanks a ton for this helpful info! Will I be able to check in on the AF app *before* I've flown the first segment (TIJ-MEX) on AM? I would've thought that the AF app or AF website would direct me to the AM website to check in for my flight.

For my second trip, I’m going to be flying from DXB-CDG-JFK. If I decide to UG to LP on the DXB-CDG route but am flying in J from CDG-JFK (LP isn’t offered on my flight), will I have access to the LP lounge during my transit in CDG?

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Old Apr 12, 2022, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by UVAhoo06
Thanks a ton for this helpful info! Will I be able to check in on the AF app *before* I've flown the first segment (TIJ-MEX) on AM? I would've thought that the AF app or AF website would direct me to the AM website to check in for my flight.
You can try direct in the AF app, but I believe you will have to check-in with AM first. Once you're checked-in, look in AF app. If nothing or doesn't work, ask at AF counter in MEX.

Originally Posted by UVAhoo06
For my second trip, I’m going to be flying from DXB-CDG-JFK. If I decide to UG to LP on the DXB-CDG route but am flying in J from CDG-JFK (LP isn’t offered on my flight), will I have access to the LP lounge during my transit in CDG?
Yes.
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Old Apr 12, 2022, 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
You can try direct in the AF app, but I believe you will have to check-in with AM first. Once you're checked-in, look in AF app. If nothing or doesn't work, ask at AF counter in MEX.


Yes.
Thanks for the helpful info, Goldorak! My layover in CDG is about 12 hrs, and I was thinking about heading into the city. If I do so, would I still be able to access the LP lounge when I return to catch my flight to JFK? (12 hours in the LP lounge seems a bit excessive…)
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Old Apr 13, 2022, 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by UVAhoo06
Thanks for the helpful info, Goldorak! My layover in CDG is about 12 hrs, and I was thinking about heading into the city. If I do so, would I still be able to access the LP lounge when I return to catch my flight to JFK? (12 hours in the LP lounge seems a bit excessive…)
No idea. You may decide at the last minute depending on the weather. But it will be certainly nice to go downtown with such a long layover. But 12hrs in the P lounge go fast
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Old Apr 13, 2022, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
No idea. You may decide at the last minute depending on the weather. But it will be certainly nice to go downtown with such a long layover. But 12hrs in the P lounge go fast
Three full meals + snacks + spa + reading in the LP lounge? Then again, the idea of heading to Paris and going to a museum (or two) and perhaps doing some shopping is tempting....

Given the relatively lower cost of upgrading to LP from MEX and DXB--both routes that I'm flying (for the first time)--I keep wondering if I'd be crazy NOT to enjoy the LP product. (Honestly, it's been on my bucket list since it was presented.) Most people rave about it, but then I read this one blogger who enjoyed it but wasn't perhaps as impressed: https://www.bougiemiles.com/air-fran...o-first-class/
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 8:35 am
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CDG-DXB 949€ or 118000 miles. Took it in cash.
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by SkyteamEP
CDG-DXB 949€ or 118000 miles. Took it in cash.
Good call.
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 10:01 am
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My boarding pass is still showing business while the seat is 01A (I got the email saying that I bought an upgrade to La Première). Is that expected?
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by SkyteamEP
My boarding pass is still showing business while the seat is 01A (I got the email saying that I bought an upgrade to La Première). Is that expected?
This is how I’ve always experienced it. AF isn’t technically reissuing the ticket, rather they are just taking your money and switching your seat.

This poses a problem for Delta MQD earn, which will remain at 40% of mileage flown. (As opposed to 60%, which you get for a paid P or F fare.)
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Old Apr 15, 2022, 6:34 am
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I have been checking the app and the web site since T30 and now T22 even though there is 1 seat left but no upgrade option whatsoever. I am on BCN-CDG-MEX-GRU ticket, wondering if it’s because the business almost full and so AF hopes to sell the 1 LP at prime price or because of my route?
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Old Apr 15, 2022, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by SQ025
I have been checking the app and the web site since T30 and now T22 even though there is 1 seat left but no upgrade option whatsoever. I am on BCN-CDG-MEX-GRU ticket, wondering if it’s because the business almost full and so AF hopes to sell the 1 LP at prime price or because of my route?
They don’t always offer it. Presumably because they expect to be able to sell the seat outright.
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