HOP! becomes Air France HOP
Jun 24, 2019, 11:12 am
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Actually, I thought that these short flights were going to be rebranded simply as Air France HOP, even though the HOP mark effectively gors away. Anyone up for doing a final Lyon-Poitiers-La Rochelle before it gets canned?
Jun 25, 2019, 2:03 am
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Who had this idea ? Btw, I always wanted to know if the La Rochelle - Poitiers and Poitiers - La Rochelle were considered as 2 distincts segments (so 2 x 2 XP ?)
Jun 25, 2019, 2:29 am
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I have taken that LRH-LYS flight, nothing special. Just like any other flight with intermediate stops, it counts as one leg for mileage earnings.
Jun 25, 2019, 6:22 am
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No, there are others, or at least there were until not too long ago. Lyon-Le Havre-Caen is another one. And if you go further back into the 1980s you'll find some routes that by today's standards would be considered odd (Lyon – Bordeaux – Pointe-a-Pitre – Fort de France – Marseille – Mulhouse, on a 747; Paris CDG – Recife – Rio de Janeiro – Buenos Aires – Santiago de Chile – Buenos Aires – Montevideo – Rio de Janeiro – Paris CDG, also a 747; Metz-Mulhouse-Tunis, on a 727. A I'd need to look up when in the 80s they stopped stopping in Manaus on their way to Ecuador)
I have taken that LRH-LYS flight, nothing special. Just like any other flight with intermediate stops, it counts as one leg for mileage earnings.
I have taken that LRH-LYS flight, nothing special. Just like any other flight with intermediate stops, it counts as one leg for mileage earnings.
Jul 23, 2019, 9:21 am
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Jul 23, 2019, 9:23 am
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Jul 23, 2019, 11:21 am
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Hang on, which one are you talking about? In your question you mention "Air France shorthaul" (which they call "moyen courrier"). Seat reservations are possible. Howver, I believe they are not possible on flights operated by HOP.
Jul 23, 2019, 11:31 am
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Looking above, hopefully by September 1st - when the last vestiges of HOP! have been purged, it should be possible to select seats in advance.
For the mainline AF shorthaul flights - how soon before the flight can seats be selected? Or is this already available from the time of booking? I hate to admit it, but it has been many, many years since I booked a shorthaul AF flight.
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Jul 23, 2019, 12:11 pm
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At OLCI forward seats are allocated on the basis of status and fare. But you can try to change your seat. Again the forward part of the cabin is not open to low fare/no status. But even for those, it can happen on a light-load flight or close to departure.
Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 pm
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Sorry San Gottardo, but there is no advanced seat selection on AF domestic (called short haul). European flights are called medium haul (moyen courrier).
At OLCI forward seats are allocated on the basis of status and fare. But you can try to change your seat. Again the forward part of the cabin is not open to low fare/no status. But even for those, it can happen on a light-load flight or close to departure.
At OLCI forward seats are allocated on the basis of status and fare. But you can try to change your seat. Again the forward part of the cabin is not open to low fare/no status. But even for those, it can happen on a light-load flight or close to departure.
The poster just above used the term short term for a European flight.
So, to make things a little clearer, here is (at least what I believe to be) the situation:
- France domestic flights "short haul": whether operated by AF mainline jets (Airbus A318-319-320-321) or regional planes (Embraer 145, Embraer E-Jets, Canadair CRJs, etc) - no advance seat reservation
- European flights "medium haul", operated by AF mainline jets (Airbus A318-319-320-321): advance seat selection at time of booking
- European flights "medium haul", operated by regional planes (Embraer 145, Embraer E-Jets, Canadair CRJs, etc) - no advance seat reservation
Jul 24, 2019, 2:52 am
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- European flights "medium haul", operated by AF mainline jets (Airbus A318-319-320-321): advance seat selection at time of booking
- European flights "medium haul", operated by regional planes (Embraer 145, Embraer E-Jets, Canadair CRJs, etc) - no advance seat reservation
Jul 25, 2019, 1:34 am
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Air France (and KLM) is actually quite rubbish when it comes to flights on its regional planes, service is below mainline. No seat reservation in Y, no free neighbouring seat in Business, no pillows on board ("flight is too short" - BS). Mind you, BA also has 2-2 config in Business. Unlike LH Group or the US carriers.