"New" Orly - April 2019

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This wikipost keeps track of the different changes at Orly and to provide guidance to passengers traveling through Orly.

Terminals:
Since end of March, the old names for the two Orly terminals (Ouest/West and Sud/South) have been changed and Orly reorganized into a single terminal with four departure areas.
They are as following:

Orly 1 (Ex Ouest Hall 1 & 2):
Orly 1 is comprised of two boarding areas and two check-in areas, which do not change from what people have seen with Halls 1 and 2. The distribution is as follows:

Check-in areas 11, 12 & 14:
Alitalia, Iberia, TAP, Vueling, Air Malta

Check-in areas 15, 16, 17 & 18:
Air France & Air France HOP
SkyPriority check-in area 18

Boarding Area A:
Alitalia, Iberia, TAP Vueling, Air Malta, some Air France HOP regional flights
A contract lounge (accepts Priority Pass and SkyTeam credentials) is available downstairs by gates A01-A05 straight after security to the left.

Boarding Area B:
Air France (most mainline flights) and some Air France HOP regional flights
The Air France Lounge is located one floor up straight after security.

Orly 2 (Ex Ouest halls 3 & 4):
This departure area is comprised of two boarding areas, both named C-Gates, divided in a Schengen and Non-Schengen section.

Check-in Area 24:
Air Europa

Check-in Area 26:
EasyJet

Boarding Area C (Schengen Gates C11-C12 & C21-C27):
Air Europa
EasyJet

Boarding Area C (Non-Schengen Gates C14-C20):
Currently not in service, may be converted into Schengen gates

Orly 3 (New junction building):
This building links Orly 1/2 (ex-West) and Orly 4 (ex-South). This departure area is comprised of a single check-in area and security filter, with the split between gates E (Schengen) and D (Non-Schengen) happening after security and shopping areas. Check-in area assignments for areas 34 & 35 are based mostly on observation and day-to-day data.

Check-in Area 32:
Air France long-haul and SkyPriority check-in
Pegasus

Check-in Area 33:
Air France flights to LYS, NTE and Corsica, Air Corsica

Check-in Area 34:
Transavia Schengen-based flights

Check-in Area 35:
Transavia Non-Schengen and Level

Boarding Area D (Non-Schengen):
Transavia, Air France, Pegasus, Level
Temporary Air France lounge located by D11/E04

Boarding Area E (Schengen):
Air France (NTE, LYS, Corsica), Air Corsica and Transavia
This boarding area is also accessible from Orly 4.

Orly 4 (ex-South):
This terminal has now become a primarily Non-Schengen terminal with the bulk of airlines operating non-schengen flights. The E gates (formerly B gates i believe) are accessible from Orly 4.
Airlines operating from this terminal:
Royal Air Maroc, Rossiya, Aigle Azur, Corsair, Tunisair, TUIfly, Air Algerie, La Compagnie, Flybe, Norwegian, Frenchbee, Air Caraibes

Boarding Area F (former A-Gates):
Royal Air Maroc, Rossiya, Aigle Azur, Corsair, Tunisair, TUIfly, Air Algerie, La Compagnie, Frenchbee, Air Caraibes

Boarding Area E (Former B-Gates and Orly 3):
Norwegian, Flybe, Aigle Azur

How do i transfer at Orly?
Due to Orly undergoing significant change with the new junction building, the transfers will become easier and finally airside connections will become possible. This section will therefore evolve as more information becomes available.

You are arriving at the A-Gates:
At the moment, only an A to A connection is possible airside. If connecting to another flight at the A-Gates, you will need to turn left and head upstairs if arriving at gates A12-A17 (this seems to be a temporary arrangement while construction is ongoing), or you will arrive directly into the gate area. If you leave from any other departure area, you must leave the secure area and re-clear security.

You are arriving at the B-Gates:
You will arrive directly on the upper level from which you can either head down to arrivals, or follow the signs towards the right for C (5 mins), D, E (10 mins) & F gates (15-20 mins). If connecting to a flight at the A-Gates, you must head down to arrivals, then back up to departures and re-clear security.

You are arriving at the C-Gates (Non-Schengen)
This area is currently not in service.

You are arriving at the C-Gates (Schengen)
You will arrive directly into the boarding area. If leaving from the C-Gates, the connection will take less than 5 minutes. If leaving from another departure area, head towards the upper level and the transfer corridor, and follow signs to your next departure area, B (5 mins), D & E (5 mins) or F (10-15 mins).

You are arriving at the D-Gates (Non-Schengen)
You should arrive on the upper level directly where you will clear passport control. If connecting, follow signs and turn left in order to clear transfer security. You will then enter the secure area and can then head for your next departure area, B (10 mins), C (5 mins), D & E (2-3 mins) or F (10-15 mins).

You are arriving at the E-Gates
More information is needed to confirm transfer process, but expect either to be channeled into gate area or on upper level where you can easily head back down to connect to D, E & F-Gates, or follow transfer corridor for B & C-Gates.

You are arriving at the F-Gates
More information is needed to confirm transfer process, expect to clear passport controls and head landside before reclearing security.

How to get to & from Orly?
Orly may be slightly less convenient to access by public transport, but is closer to Paris by car.

By Public Transport:

RER B + Orlyval:
This line, which links southern Paris and northern Paris, has several central stops in the city (Gare du Nord, Chatelet, Saint Michel, Denfert etc). Take the RER B to Antony, where you will then switch to the Orlyval, which stops in front of Orly 1 and Orly 4. The price for a Paris - Orly ticket + Orlyval is 12,1. If you have a Navigo card, the RER B leg is included but you still need to buy a 2,80 Orlyval ticket. Count 35-40 minutes from Chatelet to Orly. If transferring from Orly to CDG (or vice versa), count 75 minutes.

Metro 7 + Tramway 7:
This takes a bit more time from central Paris, but is convenient if you are directly on the Metro 7 line or are looking to get to Orly on the cheap. Take Metro 7 to Villejuif-Louis-Aragon and then change to Tramway 7 which goes all the way to Orly Airport.

Orlybus:
RATP bus line from Denfert-Rochereau to Orly. Ticket price: 8,70 (Navigo zones 1-4 passes accepted), leaves every 10 to 15 minutes. 25 to 35 min travel time.

Le Bus Direct:
Le Bus Direct is the airport bus offered by Paris Aeroport and has several stops in Paris proper. There is also a line between Orly and CDG. More detail here.

By Car:
Several car parks are available at Orly and can be pre-booked. Travel time can vary wildly from central Paris, from 30 mins to 45 mins in normal conditions, and more if congestion is very bad. Always check a map app (Google Maps, Waze) for traffic info beforehand. Most of the big rental companies have a presence at Orly 1/2 and Orly 4.

By Taxi/Uber/VTC:
A taxi stand is available in front of Orly 4 and Orly 1, and soon in front of Orly 3. Uber and the other ride-sharing companies offer service to and from Orly. Taxis can be pre-booked from differents providers such as G7.
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Old Dec 21, 18, 4:39 am
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FAQ 5A2 - Paris Orly Airport

So the new junction building at Orly is nearing completion and the end of Orly Ouest and Orly Sud with it...

Orly will become a single terminal building in March/April 2019 split into four departure/arrival halls, named Orly 1, 2, 3 and 4.

The change of names will take place during the night of 18/19 March, with a one month transitory period until the opening of Orly 3 on April 16th.

During the transitory period AF flights will be allotted as follows:

Orly 1 (Currrent Ouest Halls 1, 2) - Short and Medium haul
Orly 2 (Current Hall 3) - Long haul and Non-schengen

If i understand the AF newsletter (in french), current Ouest Hall 4 will be closed during the transitory period for the merger with Orly 3.

However in true French fashion the Paris Aeroport website does not give the same info at all for the transitory period

As for future airline repartition, Air Corsica is tweeting about operating from Orly 3 in April 2019, so hopefully with a bit of luck AF/ST airlines will co-locate their short and medium haul in Orly 3 and simplify connections at Orly.

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Old Dec 21, 18, 2:46 pm
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Thank you for those information. Interesting.

Originally Posted by joyu12 View Post
As for future airline repartition, Air Corsica is tweeting about operating from Orly 3 in April 2019, so hopefully with a bit of luck AF/ST airlines will co-locate their short and medium haul in Orly 3 and simplify connections at Orly.
AFAIK, AF will not leave current hall 2 and the lounge they have there.
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Connecting building between CDG 2 D & B

Has anyone noticed, that a connecting terminal is being built between CDG 2 B & D, in the same manner as the existing one between 2A & C?

I had read that they were considering it, but did not know that the decision had been made.

I saw this when taxiing to 2D from the south runway.
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Has anyone noticed, that a connecting terminal is being built between CDG 2 B & D, in the same manner as the existing one between 2A & C?
Yes, I confirm.
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Interesting. Will the current users of ORY Ouest Hall 1 (TAP, Vueling, Iberia...) remain there or move elsewhere, so that AF has all of current Halls 1 and 2 to itself?
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo View Post
Interesting. Will the current users of ORY Ouest Hall 1 (TAP, Vueling, Iberia...) remain there or move elsewhere, so that AF has all of current Halls 1 and 2 to itself?
Nothing announced yet, i assume they will stay there (and UX in Hall 4) for the transitory period, but after that i wouldn't be surprised to see AF try and have two halls to themselves.
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Does this mean that it will be easier to get from the Ouest Hall 1 gates to the Ibis/Novotel complex across the road from the Sud gates (over the long walkway)? It's not horrible now, but it's annoying in that you can't push a trolley onto the little rail thingie between Ouest and Sud. Being able to take a nice long slow walk with one's trolley would be an advantage.
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Originally Posted by ElmhurstNick View Post
Does this mean that it will be easier to get from the Ouest Hall 1 gates to the Ibis/Novotel complex across the road from the Sud gates (over the long walkway)? It's not horrible now, but it's annoying in that you can't push a trolley onto the little rail thingie between Ouest and Sud. Being able to take a nice long slow walk with one's trolley would be an advantage.
That is my understanding yes.
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Found this in the January issue of AF Magazine yesterday on my flight, it does seem a lot like AF will be moving to ORY3 in April.

On an off-topic subject i also spotted an A319 on the gate next to mine (F-GRHQ) fitted with what looked a lot like a WI-FI dome when arriving into Orly last night...

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Hello all, the first phase of New Orly changing is today!

Orly 1, 2 and 4 has entered service and a new gate numbering system has been implemented, A for old hall 1, B for old hall 2, C for hall 3/4 while Orly 3 will use D for international flights and E for Schengen flights. Orly 4 will use E for Schengen flights (It is a common terminal after all, so it looks like the old schengen gates in Orly Sud will merge with new Orly 3) and F for international flights.

Until April 30th, AF/XK/TO flights will operate from their current halls, before AF long-haul / TO / XK all moves to operate from Orly 3.
I hope ADP will also construct better transfer facilities so we can avoid clearing security multiple times when transferring at Orly, but i'm not holding my breath...
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An update on Orly 3:

Delays seem to accumulate in the move to Orly 3 for AF and XK operations as the move keeps being pushed back. No flights except TO Schengen operations are scheduled until next week, while the lounge in Orly 2 will close on May 27th, which makes it plausible that AF will move only at the end of the month.

However, the big news are the introduction of airside transfers, with Orly 1 B-Gates (navette gates), Orly 2, 3 and 4 all connected airside according to Paris Aeroport maps, making it possible to connect airside directly! The A-gates however will not be connected to the rest of Orly airside at the moment it seems from the maps i have looked at and the arrivals process i have gone through recently at the A-gates where airside connections are only available for A to A connections.
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Originally Posted by joyu12 View Post
Hello all, the first phase of New Orly changing is today!

Orly 1, 2 and 4 has entered service and a new gate numbering system has been implemented, A for old hall 1, B for old hall 2, C for hall 3/4 while Orly 3 will use D for international flights and E for Schengen flights. Orly 4 will use E for Schengen flights (It is a common terminal after all, so it looks like the old schengen gates in Orly Sud will merge with new Orly 3) and F for international flights.

Until April 30th, AF/XK/TO flights will operate from their current halls, before AF long-haul / TO / XK all moves to operate from Orly 3.
I hope ADP will also construct better transfer facilities so we can avoid clearing security multiple times when transferring at Orly, but i'm not holding my breath...
I am confused.
You indicate gate numbering A or B for Orly 1, but the airport website says gates 11 to 18 with two check-in area A and B.
Anyway, I will be boarding a flight to NCE. Are they still using the former Hall 2?
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Anyway, I will be boarding a flight to NCE. Are they still using the former Hall 2?
Yes and this now B gates.
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I am also confused. Not by your post, but by ADP. By their labelling logic. If in any case they have check-in areas labelled A-E, then why add another dimension, which is the numbers of "Orly x". And I cannot seem to find any comprehensive map that shows the location of every gate), only something that has an arrow pointing in the direction of the various gates. What makes it confusing is that there is no clear logic between the labels and Schengen vs. non-Schengen. Orly 1 has an A and a B pier, both of which are Schengen. Orly 2 has C gates, and is all non-Schengen. So far so good. But then Orly 3 has a Schengen and a non-Schengen part. To maintain that logic there should by an Orly 3 for either Schengen or non-Schengen. But no, Orly 3 is for both Schengen and non-Schengen. Where - just to make things really confusing - it is sharing the Schengen part with Orly 4, but not the non-Schengen part.

If there was a need for one more reason to privatise ADP there you have it. Being a privately run company that can afford to attract people with practical management skills and a clearly-structured view of things instead of bureaucrats with life-long jobs whose training was at some "Kafka School of Bureaucratic complication" with compulsory internships at CERFA and some other mindboggingly useless bureaucracy who produces nothing other than contradiction to other bureaucracies.

And I am confused by the AF move. I thought they'd stay where they are today. Which would be Orly 1B for domestic flights, with the domestic lounge right where it is now. And then Orly 2C for non-Schengen flights, with a lounge in that part of the airport. So why are they moving? Where to? Will there be a new lounge?
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Originally Posted by brunos View Post
I am confused.
You indicate gate numbering A or B for Orly 1, but the airport website says gates 11 to 18 with two check-in area A and B.
Anyway, I will be boarding a flight to NCE. Are they still using the former Hall 2?
Orly 1 is comprised of two boarding areas, A for former hall 1 and B for former Hall 2.
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