Is Joon over?

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Old Nov 30, 18, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by irishbcn View Post
I fly it a bit not because it's Joon but it's the only way from my home airport, BCN, to connect to AF routes from CDG that I use.
...and I suspect that you share the characteristic of not being that bothered with the name of the airline you fly with 99.9999% of other passengers.
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Old Nov 30, 18, 8:07 am
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...and I suspect that you share the characteristic of not being that bothered with the name of the airline you fly with 99.9999% of other passengers.
Not true. I am bothered with whom I fly longhaul and to connect to AF longhaul I have to connect on Joon.
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Old Nov 30, 18, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by irishbcn View Post
Not true. I am bothered with whom I fly longhaul and to connect to AF longhaul I have to connect on Joon.
I am sure that you care with whom you fly. But do you care about the name of the airline? Would you change your travel plans because of the name of an airline?
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Old Nov 30, 18, 12:54 pm
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Fantastic news. Air France needs to focus on its true product and keep their tried and true service but perhaps work on more training of the crew and ground staff for a more uniformed experience.
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Old Nov 30, 18, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by irishbcn View Post
Let's hope that now AF/KLM don't go BoB for shorthaul economy!
That's my fear now...
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Old Nov 30, 18, 2:49 pm
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It would be a shame, because I feel they have greatly improved their service offering in Economy. Par contre, I find European Business really poor. My flights to and from Moscow had school canteen dinner meals (but I probably already whinged about that somewhere else here).
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Old Nov 30, 18, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
That's my fear now...
Well, having the current long-haul menus la carte on the medium-haul network would be nice.
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Old Nov 30, 18, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by irishbcn View Post
Le Figaro is reporting that Joon is finished,

http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2018/11/29/20005-20181129ARTFIG00326-air-france-prete-a-stopper-l-aventure-joon.php
Love it, love it, love it. Please let it be true.
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Old Nov 30, 18, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
That's my fear now...
Maybe all the European AF flights will adopt the Joon model: free tea/coffee/juice/water and pay for everything else? So: they may get rid of the Joon brand, but keep its downgraded service concept.

It will be intersting to see if AC is used as a template. Interestingly enough, AC does offer free meals/snacks on domestic flights when connecting to/from international. I flew Montreal to Paris with AC last year and the food was so poor I swore I would never fly AC again. Breakfast consisted of a piece of banana bread. Vile.
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Old Nov 30, 18, 11:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
That's my fear now...
Be sure that will be presented as an improvement based on their customers' needs.
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Old Dec 1, 18, 2:32 am
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Be sure that will be presented as an improvement based on their customers' needs.
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Old Dec 1, 18, 4:39 am
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Unluckily for me, I will be flying Joon this weekend. Too bad the wind-down isn’t occurring today.
My AF1625 LIS-CDG on JOON A321 return flight was replaced with a A320 standard Air France crew/service yesterday.

Seats were reassigned weirdly, breaking down groups and families.

3 days before it was still the JOON crew/plane.

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Old Dec 2, 18, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by generikz View Post
My AF1625 LIS-CDG on JOON A321 return flight was replaced with a A320 standard Air France crew/service yesterday.

Seats were reassigned weirdly, breaking down groups and families.

3 days before it was still the JOON crew/plane.

Julien
You got lucky! Flew CDG-CPT today and it was Joon. We did get our originally booked seats which was good... although seat pitch was terrible. I am only 51 (long torso, short legs) so I never complain about seat pitch but it was a tough ride for both me and my 62 husband!
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Old Dec 3, 18, 12:30 am
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Looks like the SNPL is going to ask for the €40M worth of efforts back if Joon stops.
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Old Dec 3, 18, 8:39 am
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Will mainline AF take over all the routes? I am booking a trip to LIS on Delta for February. The Delta site still says Joon.
It is a short flight, so don't really care what plane. But would hate to find out after booking that they cancel the flight and replace it with a much later one, or an earlier one that prevents my already close 1:35 connection.
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