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Old May 5, 2021, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Yes, and it was time. I never understood why AF was not serving this route, instead of selling their precious LHR slot to whoever needed them. Strange that it is Y only. This is a route that can sell J point-to-point.
Are all EU regional routes Y only? I'm booked on ATH-NCE in August and it's indeed Y only as well.
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Old May 5, 2021, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by NickB
This is a route that can indeed sell J point to point but not with 5 flights weekly in a two months period in the summer when BA offers ten times that number of flights year round and also offers attractive discounted fares for the J leisure traffic (around the Ł300 return mark)..
I agree. But this is coming back to the fact I don’t understand why AF is not serving this route properly year round. There is certainly room for 2 full-service carriers on this route. I know one of the likely issue is the LHR slots, but I’m sure AF could have done it if they had wished.
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Old May 5, 2021, 2:40 am
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Originally Posted by offvoice
Are all EU regional routes Y only? I'm booked on ATH-NCE in August and it's indeed Y only as well.
Yes, especially for those summer-only routes, which are primarily directed at tourist and VFR traffic.
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Old May 5, 2021, 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
I agree. But this is coming back to the fact I don’t understand why AF is not serving this route properly year round. There is certainly room for 2 full-service carriers on this route. I know one of the likely issue is the LHR slots, but I’m sure AF could have done it if they had wished.
Pure point-to-point traffic to a non-hub is rather tricky on a full service basis. It is noteworthy that even BA only operates two daily flights from NCE to LCY whereas it operates 7 daily flights to LHR. LH also pulled out of all non-hub services and shifted that the Eurowings for similar reasons. AF will always be at a disadvantage on that route compared to BA. As you point out, the slot issue and the revenue from leasing the slot vs the profits expected from operating the route is also an element.
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Old May 11, 2021, 2:51 pm
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I thought it was already reported, but I don't see it in this thread (except NCE-LHR), so let's go. AF is launching or re-starting a couple of seasonal routes this summer :
- CDG to to/from TGN, AGA, MIR, MLA, LPA, CFU, RHO and PSA from 5 July 2021
- ORY to/from BRI as of 31 May 2021, IBZ and ALG as of 28 June 2021
- MRS to/from CTA from 26 June 2021 and CFU from 19 July 2021
- NCE to/from LHR and TUN from 28 June 2021

Domestically, there is the classical increase of Corsica services from CDG in addition to the ORY services:- CDG to/from AJA, BIA, CLY and FSC from 5 June 2021
- PGF to/from BES, SXB and NTE from 25 June 2021
- BIQ to/from CFR from 25 June 2021
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Old May 17, 2021, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
- ORY to/from BRI as of 31 May 2021, IBZ and ALG as of 28 June 2021
- MRS to/from CTA from 26 June 2021 and CFU from 19 July 2021
MRS to CTA with Mainline AF
And all domestic flights from ORY operated by TO, there is a logic that I really don't understand there...
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Old May 17, 2021, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by olivedel
MRS to CTA with Mainline AF
And all domestic flights from ORY operated by TO, there is a logic that I really don't understand there...
ORY to MRS and NCE are operated by mainline AF. It is not illogical that the same fleet operates all flights.
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Old Jun 9, 2021, 12:23 am
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I don't remember this already announced : AF has started CDG-FAO on June 6 for the summer period. Several weekly frequencies in June, increasing to daily most of july & august. Plane = A320 family.
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Old Jun 9, 2021, 3:11 am
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AF will also start flying CDG HEL on its own A319 metal while maintaining its codeshare agreement with Finnair.

https://www.air-journal.fr/2021-05-2...i-5228104.html
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Old Jul 2, 2021, 12:17 am
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AF just announced 3 new routes for the winter season:
  • Muscat (Oman), 3 days a week, starting Oct. 31st, 787-9 operating
  • Colombo (Sri Lanka), 3 days a week, starting Nov. 1st, 787-9 operating
  • Zanzibar (Tanzania), twice a week, starting Oct.. 18th, 787-9 operating, with a stopover in NBO both ways.
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Old Jul 2, 2021, 12:41 am
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Originally Posted by offvoice
AF just announced 3 new routes for the winter season:
  • Mascate (Oman), 3 days a week, starting Oct. 31st, 787-9 operating
  • Colombo (Sri Lanka), 3 days a week, starting Nov. 1st, 787-9 operating
  • Zanzibar (Tanzania), twice a week, starting Oct.. 18th, 787-9 operating, with a stopover in NBO both ways.
loved the last two destinations.
Muscat is definitely on my list!
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Old Jul 2, 2021, 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by bostontraveler
loved the last two destinations.
Muscat is definitely on my list!
Really happy about Muscat!
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Old Jul 7, 2021, 2:29 pm
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AF has finally started the new route to Chennai MAA end June. Really the worst period to launch a new route to India, but it's only once a week at the moment (thursday for CDG departure). Aircraft = B789.
AF108 CDG 10:25 MAA 23:45
AF107 MAA 01:20 CDG 08.15
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Old Jul 7, 2021, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by KL714
Seems like AF will start flying to Maputo, Mozambique from June. Two weekly flights via JNB:

https://clubofmozambique.com/news/ai...a-week-188566/
This has been postponed until Oct. 31.
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Old Aug 6, 2021, 1:00 am
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AF just announced 4 new routes from CDG & ORY for the winter season:
  • Tenerife , 2 days a week, starting Nov. 1st, 319 operating
  • Rovaniemi, 2 days a week, starting Dec. 4th, until Mar. 5th, 319 operating
  • BER & MUC from ORY, daily, starting Oct. 31st, 318 operating
Last edited by offvoice; Aug 6, 2021 at 1:50 am Reason: 318 from ORY, not 319
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