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updated information about new J seats deployments and other information

Old Mar 12, 2018, 2:46 pm
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This wikipost presents an updated summary of AF plans for retrofitting the long-haul fleet with new J (and W) seats. For more details, please refer to the thread below

Last update on 17 JAN 2024

B772
21 planes. All B772 are already retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat). A refit programme is underway to standardise the 772 fleet with a 28J 32W 268M configuration, with refits expected to be complete before summer 2024.
- Seating config 1: C28W32Y268
- Seating config 2: C28W24Y260
- Seating config 3: C40W32Y216

B77W
Version with P (19 planes out of 43 77W): 19/19 completed (F-GSQA, F-GSQB, F-GSQC, F-GSQF, F-GSQG, F-GSQH, F-GSQI, F-GSQJ, F-GSQK, F-GSQL, F-GSQM, F-GSQU, F-GSQV, F-GSQY, F-GZNA, F-GZNB, F-GZNC, F-GZND, and F-GZNE)
- They are already all retrofitted with the BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat).
- Seating config: F4C58W28Y206

COI version (14J) (12 planes out of 43 B77W): all retrofitted (F-GSQO, F-GSQP, F-GSQT, F-GSQX, F-GZNG. F-GSQS, F-GZNF, F-GSQR, F-GSQN, F-GZNO, F-GZNL and F-GZNN).
- The J seat is Zodiac Optima (same as chosen for the A350), similar to the UA Polaris seat. The config is 1-2-1 and total 14J.
- The W seat is the same as in the B789.
- Seating config: C14W32Y422

Remaining 77W (the 12 planes in NEV4 "loisirs" config (42J)): 10/12 completed (F-GZNK, F-GZNP, F-GZNQ, F-GZNS, F-GZNT, F-GZNI, F-GZNR, F-GZNU, F-GZNJ, and F-GZNH)
- The new seat will be a slightly improved version of the BEST seat, with a door for privacy.
- Retrofits started in March 2022 and are projected to finish by the end of 2023 per AF and other sources.
- Aircraft in retrofit: none
- Aircraft yet to be converted: F-GSQD, F-GSQE
- Seating config: C48W48Y273
- Old config: C42W24Y315

B789
- Direct deliveries with BEST cabins (Zodiac Cirrus seat, slightly smaller than the 777 one, due to fuselage width limitation).
- Ten planes have been delivered to AF (F-HRBA to F-HRBJ).
- AF initially ordered 15 B789, with the remaining to go to KL.
- Seating config: C30W21Y228

A332
- 15 planes. Retrofitted in 2-2-2 with the Stelia Equinoxe seat. A similar seat can be seen in the UX B787. Also, the W seats are the same as the B789.
- More info on A332 retrofit can be found in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...-retrofit.html
- Since October 2020, all aircraft have the new cabin.
- Seating config: C36W21Y167

A343
Update 01/2020: Only 4 planes remaining (in Joon livery & interiors : F-GLZK/N/O/P). They will leave the fleet between 03/3020 and end 2021.
All retired per ch-aviation.


A359
- Overall, AF will have 38 A359. 22 planes have been delivered as of 22/09/2023:
First batch (20): F-HTYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T
- Direct delivery with Zodiac Optima, similar to UA Polaris seat (see above B777 COI). Config 1-2-1.
- The W seat is a Recaro recliner seat.
- All the A359 ordered for both AF & KL are finally going to AF (while KL will receive all the B789 remaining to be delivered on the AF sub-order).
- As per an information post by frausflyer , the 20th A350 (likely F-HTYT) to be delivered to AF will have a P cabin. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33283076-post467.html. However, this eventually did not happen, and F-HTYT has the same cabin as the 19 aircraft that preceded it.
- Seating config: C34W24Y266

Second batch (7/18): F-HUVA/B/C/D/E/F/G
- The 21st A359 (F-HUVA) has the new 48J cabin with small differences compared to the B77W one. According to Aerolopa, it and 17 A350s to follow will not have P.
- Seating config: C48W32Y212

A388
All A380 will leave the fleet by 2022 and so, will not be retrofitted with new seats. F-HPJB is the 1st to leave the fleet : it has been returned to the lessor in January 2020.
All retired June 26 2020 due to COVID-19.

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updated information about new J seats deployments and other information

Old May 10, 2022, 1:29 pm
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There will also be 48 business class seats (vs 42 in the current configuration) and 48 Premium Economy seats. The PE seats will be those featured on the A350s and will replace the heavily criticized fixed shell seats.
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Here is a link to the English article:

https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/p...inues-its-move
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Lots of pics of all the new seats and the new campaign here as well: https://thedesignair.net/2022/05/10/...o-new-heights/
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I find these waist high “doors” all airlines seem to be going for to be such a gimmick
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Press release about the cabin mods on the last 12 77Ws: https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/p...inues-its-move
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Very bland and sterile design; not much of a visual identity
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Originally Posted by N515CR
Press release about the cabin mods on the last 12 77Ws: https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/p...inues-its-move
Privacy with Air France, what a new concept.. Not that bad.. Isn't it ?
That's explain why F-GZNK still at BOD since the 27 march.. I hope AF gonna get quicker with the others.

"Named Fontainebleau, the first aircraft equipped with these new cabins and a WiFi connection will fly to New York-JFK this autumn."

Humm... 6 months ?!
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updated information about new J seats deployments and other information
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Old May 10, 2022, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Vaviation
Privacy with Air France, what a new concept.. Not that bad.. Isn't it ?
That's explain why F-GZNK still at BOD since the 27 march.. I hope AF gonna get quicker with the others.

"Named Fontainebleau, the first aircraft equipped with these new cabins and a WiFi connection will fly to New York-JFK this autumn."

Humm... 6 months ?!
The first of a new configuration always takes a good bit longer than future conversions.
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Old May 10, 2022, 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by N515CR
Press release about the cabin mods on the last 12 77Ws: https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/p...inues-its-move
PE switching to recliners at last they heard us !
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Old May 11, 2022, 11:10 am
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Why only 12 a/c being refreshed? Seems service will be inconsistent.
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Old May 11, 2022, 11:22 am
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PE switching to recliners at last they heard us !
And getting its own meal... Will this be a VS style separate menu now? J also getting preorder, like DL and VS.
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Originally Posted by deltatrav
Why only 12 a/c being refreshed? Seems service will be inconsistent.
These 12 frames have the most inferior hard product in the fleet, and the new seat will be similar in many ways to the existing J product on the rest of the 777 fleet (and other types).
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Old May 11, 2022, 12:44 pm
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Now that we know that there won't be P in these 12 last 77W, do we know if there are plans to introduce P in the future a350 deliveries?
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Wonder if the bulkhead will be sold for a premium given all the extra space.
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