"Please turn off all devices, due to autopilot landing'' Here we go again,.. or not?
Dec 10, 2016, 2:35 pm
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"Please turn off all devices, due to autopilot landing'' Here we go again,.. or not?
This was annouced prior to landing on AF into CDG this afternoon. Visibility wasn't very good.
But what does turning off all devices for an autopilot landing have to do with the influence of that current weather and the smog, to the computers of an aircraft?
Thanks in advance :-)
But what does turning off all devices for an autopilot landing have to do with the influence of that current weather and the smog, to the computers of an aircraft?
Thanks in advance :-)
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Dec 10, 2016, 3:04 pm
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The opspecs of some airlines specify that personal electronic devices must be turned off when the plane is performing Category II or Category III ILS approaches. (These approaches are mostly used during very poor visibility, but are sometimes done in clear weather for currency.) Most airlines have updated their opspecs to eliminate that requirement, but I imagine a few have been slow to drop it.
Dec 10, 2016, 4:12 pm
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Had this landing at DUS last weekend. The FA made me remove my noise cancelling headphones.
Dec 10, 2016, 4:18 pm
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Electronic emissions can theoretically influence some of the avionics used for the auto landing.
Better safe than sorry, even if it's only a one in a million chance it could cause a problem.
Better safe than sorry, even if it's only a one in a million chance it could cause a problem.
Dec 10, 2016, 4:22 pm
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This was annouced prior to landing on AF into CDG this afternoon. Visibility wasn't very good.
But what does turning off all devices for an autopilot landing have to do with the influence of that current weather and the smog, to the computers of an aircraft?
Thanks in advance :-)
But what does turning off all devices for an autopilot landing have to do with the influence of that current weather and the smog, to the computers of an aircraft?
Thanks in advance :-)
Dec 11, 2016, 5:34 am
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Dec 11, 2016, 7:38 am
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Johan
Dec 11, 2016, 11:48 am
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You are free to wager your own life for fun all day long. But what gives you the right to wager the lives of the other passengers?
Dec 12, 2016, 2:57 am
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Human beings are not infallible. Despite the best intentions, people forget to switch their phones off, or forget to set them to airplane mode. I know I've done it, I have no doubt whatsover that others beyond counting have done so too, and that it continues to happen every day. Most likely on just about every flight. If any of these many devices has ever caused a CAT II/III landing to end in a fiery crash, then please do tell. I've never heard of one.
If the potential risk still leaves you in fear of your life, you should restrict your flying to the few airlines that have still not updated their opspecs to eliminate this pointless requirement. Once they do, you will have to consider walking to your destination instead. Just be careful when crossing the street, the sky might fall down on you.
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Dec 12, 2016, 5:54 am
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I don't, but since you don't get my point, allow me to explain again:
Human beings are not infallible. Despite the best intentions, people forget to switch their phones off, or forget to set them to airplane mode. I know I've done it, I have no doubt whatsover that others beyond counting have done so too, and that it continues to happen every day. Most likely on just about every flight. If any of these many devices has ever caused a CAT II/III landing to end in a fiery crash, then please do tell. I've never heard of one.
If the potential risk still leaves you in fear of your life, you should restrict your flying to the few airlines that have still not updated their opspecs to eliminate this pointless requirement. Once they do, you will have to consider walking to your destination instead. Just be careful when crossing the street, the sky might fall down on you.
Johan
Human beings are not infallible. Despite the best intentions, people forget to switch their phones off, or forget to set them to airplane mode. I know I've done it, I have no doubt whatsover that others beyond counting have done so too, and that it continues to happen every day. Most likely on just about every flight. If any of these many devices has ever caused a CAT II/III landing to end in a fiery crash, then please do tell. I've never heard of one.
If the potential risk still leaves you in fear of your life, you should restrict your flying to the few airlines that have still not updated their opspecs to eliminate this pointless requirement. Once they do, you will have to consider walking to your destination instead. Just be careful when crossing the street, the sky might fall down on you.
Johan
If you took the time to read the heading of the thread, you would have known that we are discussing a situation in which it was announced that all of the devices should be turned off. If you fail to turn your device off after the announcement was made, you are either deaf or are intentionally breaking the rules.
Dec 18, 2016, 7:59 pm
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Why is it so hard to believe that even well-intentioned people can simply forget?
Dec 21, 2016, 3:35 pm
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It looks like we are dealing with people who are not able, or simply refuse, to pay attention to detail.
If you took the time to read the heading of the thread, you would have known that we are discussing a situation in which it was announced that all of the devices should be turned off. If you fail to turn your device off after the announcement was made, you are either deaf or are intentionally breaking the rules.
If you took the time to read the heading of the thread, you would have known that we are discussing a situation in which it was announced that all of the devices should be turned off. If you fail to turn your device off after the announcement was made, you are either deaf or are intentionally breaking the rules.
What about:
Passenger sleeping and did not hear it.
Those are talking to others and do not listen to announcement.
Those that try to listen, but can not understand what was said. Common.
Those with a different language.
Those that put their devices in the overhead and forgot they were still turned on.
Those that think their spouse turned it off, so they ignore it
etc
etc
Any or all of those are on your plane. Time to bend over and kiss it goodbye as the plane is about to nosedive.