Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Constructive Criticism of La Premiere

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 7, 2017, 8:02 pm
  #106  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,555
Having finally done my first flight in the new AF F, I would fully agree with Orbitmic and San Gottardo. All the top F products have some pluses and minuses, but they are all great unless you get noisy neighbors (snoring, chatting, crying child) or poor FAs.

The new AF seat is now comparable to the standard F seat facing-forward found on many 777 (LX, NH, JL, SQ,..). It is way better than the old AF sideways F seat or BA seats (except possibleywindow seats on A380). The single row makes the cabin a bit claustrophobic and I don't like the lack of privacy (I am not a big fan of the curtain). I still prefer CX seat.

AF beats most others on ground service.

But the food and wine selection is somewhat limited (not surprising with only 4 seats and typically a couple of pax as on my flight). Actually the wines are quite mediocre compared to competitors and that is an important parameter for me.

But again an excellent product in the top ten. Halas, there are only 76 such seats in the whole AF network.
brunos is offline  
Old Jan 7, 2017, 8:25 pm
  #107  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA Million Miler, Mosaic, Delta Platinum
Posts: 1,561
Speaking of the seat, am I the only one who had trouble finding just the right recline?
Yahtzee is offline  
Old Jan 8, 2017, 2:58 am
  #108  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Accor 25+ Badge
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Originally Posted by Yahtzee
Speaking of the seat, am I the only one who had trouble finding just the right recline?
Are you talking about the P seat ?? Old ? New ?
not sure what you are talking about because both old or new are full flat.
Goldorak is offline  
Old Jan 8, 2017, 5:28 am
  #109  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Originally Posted by Goldorak
Are you talking about the P seat ?? Old ? New ?
not sure what you are talking about because both old or new are full flat.
I assume Yahtzee meant recline for relaxing rather than sleeping.
Calchas is offline  
Old Jan 8, 2017, 7:08 am
  #110  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Accor 25+ Badge
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,922
Originally Posted by Calchas
I assume Yahtzee meant recline for relaxing rather than sleeping.
Ah OK. No, I never had any problem of that kind
Goldorak is offline  
Old Jan 8, 2017, 7:32 am
  #111  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA Million Miler, Mosaic, Delta Platinum
Posts: 1,561
Originally Posted by Calchas
I assume Yahtzee meant recline for relaxing rather than sleeping.
That's right. Couldn't find the sweet spot.
Yahtzee is offline  
Old Jan 9, 2017, 5:22 pm
  #112  
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SJC / SFO
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 785
What is the typical age of a P flyer? Does it look erm "highly unusual" when sbdy under 30 flies in P?
Sjondorn is offline  
Old Jan 9, 2017, 7:39 pm
  #113  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,836
Originally Posted by Sjondorn
What is the typical age of a P flyer? Does it look erm "highly unusual" when sbdy under 30 flies in P?
Most captains in the long haul fleet are of a more advanced aged, and so are typically their wives. Which pushes the average age in the Premiere cabin up a little bit.
San Gottardo is offline  
Old Jan 9, 2017, 9:38 pm
  #114  
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,520
Originally Posted by Sjondorn
What is the typical age of a P flyer? Does it look erm "highly unusual" when sbdy under 30 flies in P?
No. and not many dress in suit and tie either.
orbitmic is offline  
Old Jan 10, 2017, 3:03 am
  #115  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,555
Originally Posted by San Gottardo
Most captains in the long haul fleet are of a more advanced aged, and so are typically their wives. Which pushes the average age in the Premiere cabin up a little bit.
But you forgot the sons and daughters.
brunos is offline  
Old Jan 10, 2017, 4:19 am
  #116  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Anglia UK
Programs: BA-S UA LH-Sen KLM/AF-Plat.
Posts: 1,627
Originally Posted by brunos
But you forgot the sons and daughters.
And his sisters and his cousins and his aunts - or was that only Sir Joseph Porter KCB?
lloydah is online now  
Old Jan 10, 2017, 10:34 am
  #117  
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SJC / SFO
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 785
Thanks regarding the dress code. And regarding daughters it's better to book P cabin with China Eastern. Third question from (young) FA will be whether you're married ...
Sjondorn is offline  
Old Jan 10, 2017, 11:39 am
  #118  
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,520
Originally Posted by Sjondorn
Third question from (young) FA will be whether you're married ...
The question has been known to be asked on occasions...
orbitmic is offline  
Old Jan 11, 2017, 3:16 am
  #119  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,555
Originally Posted by Sjondorn
Thanks regarding the dress code. And regarding daughters it's better to book P cabin with China Eastern. Third question from (young) FA will be whether you're married ...
And China Eastern First class suites on 777 are really impressive. Business class is Zodiac Cirrus (full version, not AF lightweight).
brunos is offline  
Old Jan 23, 2017, 1:40 pm
  #120  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,231
Hi all - I can't recall seeing this discussed.
How many flight attendants serve first class? I would guess one primary, but there would likely need to be another one assisting during mealtimes, as I imagine there's a fair amount of galley work required to prep the food, and you wouldn't want the pax getting thirsty out there. Two dedicated FAs seems excessive, especially if the cabin isn't full.

Also, looks like there are two lavatories per the AF seat map - is that correct?
(I hated LX F with only one lav for eight pax!)
ijgordon is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.