Constructive Criticism of La Premiere

Old Apr 5, 2017, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by lloydah
They do, yes. Just thought it would be interesting once in a while to know in advance and do some homework on those I didn't recognise. Perhaps the best way would be simply to taste all of them. ^
Here's the wine list from CDG-JFK a couple of weeks ago.
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
Here's the wine list from CDG-JFK a couple of weeks ago.
Thank you for those images. I think I could do worse than try a couple.....

My next flight in half way through May then again at the beginning of July. I will try and get some images of the wine list on my flights too.

Thanks again ijgordon
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by rosensfole
Glad to see standards being maintained ; former UK prime minister Gordon Brown refused entry as he's not an eligible passenger. No amount of DYKWIA cut through the rules ^
How strange. The Rt Hon Gordon Brown was famous for travelling in Club World (not F) when he was Prime Minister. Perhaps his ambitions have risen.
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 3:43 pm
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How strange. The Rt Hon Gordon Brown was famous for travelling in Club World (not F) when he was Prime Minister. Perhaps his ambitions have risen.
Maybe he tried AF P once and became addict
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Maybe he tried AF P once and became addict
And who would blame him
I suspect his assistants saw the "La Premiere" sign and assumed it meant private space for ex-Premiers.

Anyhow... back to "constructive criticism"; since arriving at SIN in P I have read reports that JetQuay arrival service has been offered. Has this been withdrawn? I wasn't offered this though I was met by a SIN airport rep, moved around on a buggy then made to wait in an interminable passport control line, shown the transit station then dumped.

The rep did give me a letter from a Gary Denson (Regional station manager) inviting me, as a La Premiere passenger, to avail myself of JetQuay check-in for the return trip (as mentioned earlier in the thread), however I'm a bog standard Z class passenger on this leg to Paris. Is this normal? Will I be turned away? Well, of course I'll give it a go and present the letter but I won't be too surprised if I'm rebuffed.

I love La Premiere but sometimes I wonder if AF are still refining the experience...
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by rosensfole
Anyhow... back to "constructive criticism"; since arriving at SIN in P I have read reports that JetQuay arrival service has been offered. Has this been withdrawn? I wasn't offered this though I was met by a SIN airport rep, moved around on a buggy then made to wait in an interminable passport control line, shown the transit station then dumped.
Yes, the arrival service at the JetQuay lounge (with the private immigration) has been unfortunately ended. It's the case for about 2 years already.

Originally Posted by rosensfole
The rep did give me a letter from a Gary Denson (Regional station manager) inviting me, as a La Premiere passenger, to avail myself of JetQuay check-in for the return trip (as mentioned earlier in the thread), however I'm a bog standard Z class passenger on this leg to Paris. Is this normal? Will I be turned away? Well, of course I'll give it a go and present the letter but I won't be too surprised if I'm rebuffed.
I believe it's a mistake from them, but clearly give it a try and please report here !
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 12:22 am
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My experience arriving in P at SIN two weeks ago was similar to yours rosensfole, although the rep was very kind and picked the fastest moving immigration line then escorted me all the way to the check-in desk at the Crown Plaza.

I am back in the lounge at CDG after my return P flight from SIN this morning. They are doing the transfers with brand new Jaguars now. I am no car expert, but the interior was gorgeous.

After two long P flights, I must say I am VERY impressed with the overall experience. The new seat has style AND function. I am a fan of Sofitel's beds in their hotels so I was very pleased that they provided the bedding for the seat. It is easily the most comfortable sleeping experience I have had in the air. My only issue with the cabin design is how narrow the aisle feels between the window seats and the center pair. I was in the window with a stranger next to me in one of the center seats, and a little more separation would have been nice. However, that was fixed by pulling one of the curtains forward, which immediately gave me much more privacy.

I wish I had gone ahead and pre-ordered my main dish, because the current menu choices didn't do much for me. That said, the soups, salads, and desserts were phenomenal and the lounge catering more than made up for any in-flight shortcomings. AF might want to look at improving their outstation flight catering though, as the quality of the main dishes seems more than a few steps below the offerings out of CDG.
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Yes, the arrival service at the JetQuay lounge (with the private immigration) has been unfortunately ended. It's the case for about 2 years already.
Ah, OK. That's a shame. I didn't expect it so I guess I'm not disappointed

Originally Posted by Goldorak
I believe it's a mistake from them, but clearly give it a try and please report here !
I will indeed Goldorak.

Originally Posted by luluv
My experience arriving in P at SIN two weeks ago was similar to yours rosensfole, although the rep was very kind and picked the fastest moving immigration line then escorted me all the way to the check-in desk at the Crown Plaza.
My line took about 25 minutes. I think there was an issue with one of the travellers though which can't be accounted for I guess.

Originally Posted by luluv
I am back in the lounge at CDG after my return P flight from SIN this morning. They are doing the transfers with brand new Jaguars now. I am no car expert, but the interior was gorgeous.
Nice! My escort at CDG told me I would be one the last to have the Mercedes. The journey to the lounge isn't long enough to fully appreciate the comfort so I was happy enough.

Originally Posted by luluv
After two long P flights, I must say I am VERY impressed with the overall experience. The new seat has style AND function. I am a fan of Sofitel's beds in their hotels so I was very pleased that they provided the bedding for the seat. It is easily the most comfortable sleeping experience I have had in the air. My only issue with the cabin design is how narrow the aisle feels between the window seats and the center pair. I was in the window with a stranger next to me in one of the center seats, and a little more separation would have been nice. However, that was fixed by pulling one of the curtains forward, which immediately gave me much more privacy.
I love the bed too. I only got 4 hours sleep on my last trip due to my neighbour being quite a loud snorer. I couldn't re-settle. I do like the flexibility of the curtains as well, you can choose how private you'd like to be. Glad you enjoyed the experience, I just wish I could always travel this way.

Originally Posted by luluv
wish I had gone ahead and pre-ordered my main dish, because the current menu choices didn't do much for me. That said, the soups, salads, and desserts were phenomenal and the lounge catering more than made up for any in-flight shortcomings. AF might want to look at improving their outstation flight catering though, as the quality of the main dishes seems more than a few steps below the offerings out of CDG.
I'm no foodie and am allergic to some seafood but I usually find enough in the menu to make it work. The FAs, once appraised, are often very flexible and will help ensure one is very well fed indeed. The pre-ordered options never suit me at all so I just end up accepting the standard offering roulette and I've not been disappointed yet. I don't have a sweet tooth so extra wine is my dessert
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Am going to Hong Kong next week. Does anyone know if they still skip the immigration lines?
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 6:41 am
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Am going to Hong Kong next week. Does anyone know if they still skip the immigration lines?
I don't know, but I do know that it is relatively easy and free to get E-Channel access at HKG for most frequent flyers. Never a line at those channels in my experience.

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Old Apr 6, 2017, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by luluv
After two long P flights, I must say I am VERY impressed with the overall experience. The new seat has style AND function.
So thought I'd chime in with my own opinions after a recent CDG-JFK. Style and function, for sure, but I wasn't crazy about the seat comfort for lounging. Couldn't seem to get a comfortable "Z" position.

I am a fan of Sofitel's beds in their hotels so I was very pleased that they provided the bedding for the seat. It is easily the most comfortable sleeping experience I have had in the air.
This was a "day" flight (an early evening departure from CDG, so to be fair, it was dark almost the entire flight), so I didn't really intend on sleeping. But after a week of skiing I guess I was a bit tired. I had the FA make the bed just to give it a try. Wow, yes, super-comfortable bedding. I slept a couple of hours.

My only issue with the cabin design is how narrow the aisle feels between the window seats and the center pair. I was in the window with a stranger next to me in one of the center seats, and a little more separation would have been nice. However, that was fixed by pulling one of the curtains forward, which immediately gave me much more privacy.
So unfortunately due to a misconnect, I had to change flights, and the window seats were both taken. Fortunately, nobody else was in the other center seat. There was a privacy divider on the aisle, so that mostly blocked the view to the aisle passenger, but pulling the curtain even just partly closed helped more. And I agree the aisle is a bit narrow, but less from a privacy issue and more from a "claustrophobic cabin" issue. Probably compounded by the curtains. I can't say I really loved the single-row cabin, particularly when the curtains were closed. It just felt a bit claustrophobic. I really like the CX F suite - they have 2 rows of 1-1-1, so it's still exclusive, but the cabin feels much more open, and there's still decent privacy even without a suite door or cabin.

And back to that center seat -- a real good thing nobody was next to me. For one, you don't get the same level of privacy you would in the window because the privacy divider only rises less than halfway to the ceiling. I'd still probably feel a little uncomfortable with both curtains closed if someone was in the other seat even with the divider up. And herein is my biggest complaint - the divider made a LOT of noise in the up position with the bouncing of the plane, even when it was very light. Squeek, squeek, squeek. So I had to put the divider down. Again, fortunately I didn't have a seatmate.

I wonder if I would have enjoyed the A380 cabin more?

I wish I had gone ahead and pre-ordered my main dish, because the current menu choices didn't do much for me. That said, the soups, salads, and desserts were phenomenal and the lounge catering more than made up for any in-flight shortcomings.
I was pretty full from the lounge, so delayed my dinner for a couple of hours after departure. (And apparently the FA had to check with the purser because they were reportedly short-staffed due to the strike, but in the end it wasn't a problem.)
Had a tough time deciding between the veal chop and the fish, because the latter was the Joel Rebouchon choice, but I ultimately went with the fish. It was pretty darn good, I'd say. But some of the lounge dishes were really, really good. Soup was so-so, appetizer (lobster salad) and desert were great. I didn't get a chance to try the crab cakes as a snack later, was just too full!
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by rosensfole
I just wish I could always travel this way.
Me too
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 7:27 pm
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ijgordon - I had the same issue with seat comfort. I did a trip report comparing P with first on LX, and LX clearly won on seat comfort variety.
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Originally Posted by luluv
I am back in the lounge at CDG after my return P flight from SIN this morning. They are doing the transfers with brand new Jaguars now. I am no car expert, but the interior was gorgeous.
I was the first guest to have been in one of the new Jaguars. Upon arrival, I was picked up in of their Mercedes fleet cars (in Dec it was a BMW). On departure, my handler told me that all the cars were just switched out an hour ago for Jaguar, and she apologized for the car still being dirty. New car smell permeated.

Photos of my A380 La Première experience from earlier this week.
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Fun rumor - she mentioned that she heard the fleet was being upgraded again in a few months with Teslas!
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Old Apr 7, 2017, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Yes, the arrival service at the JetQuay lounge (with the private immigration) has been unfortunately ended. It's the case for about 2 years already.
I had full use of the JetQuay facilities this past Dec... so if it ended, it ended very recently. JetQuay isn't very impressive beyond the private immigrations line. It's too bad... that's a long enough flight where the full La Première experience adds significant premium value.
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