Can I skip the 1st train leg CDG to BRU with AF?
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2015
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Can I skip the 1st train leg CDG to BRU with AF?
Hello everyone:
I know this question could have been asked several times, but I'm really worried about and it's my first time in Europe.. look I bought a super deal with AF for Feb MEX-BRU (via CDG) and already booked a prepaid hotel in Paris, but I want to know if I can land in CDG go to the TGV kiosko to pick up my train ticket to BRU and not board on the train? Because I want to start my trip in Paris.
What about the luggage I can take it from the plane and pick up the tickets without checked in luggage?
Doing that would cancel my return flight? Do they have a way to know that I don't actually board the train?
Note that in the return flight I'm definitely taking the train from BRU station to CDG to MEX because I have learned that If you don't check-in in Brussels train station you can't take your flight in CDG
Thanks to those who reply.
I know this question could have been asked several times, but I'm really worried about and it's my first time in Europe.. look I bought a super deal with AF for Feb MEX-BRU (via CDG) and already booked a prepaid hotel in Paris, but I want to know if I can land in CDG go to the TGV kiosko to pick up my train ticket to BRU and not board on the train? Because I want to start my trip in Paris.
What about the luggage I can take it from the plane and pick up the tickets without checked in luggage?
Doing that would cancel my return flight? Do they have a way to know that I don't actually board the train?
Note that in the return flight I'm definitely taking the train from BRU station to CDG to MEX because I have learned that If you don't check-in in Brussels train station you can't take your flight in CDG
Thanks to those who reply.
#2
Join Date: Feb 2011
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You have to take your bags in CDG and recheck them for the train. You can of course leave them at CDG and take the train without luggage. The train ticket however will not be delivered by the ticket machine but by specific train staff when entering the train track. At least that was the way it was done when I pretended to take the train with AF ticket the last time, some time back however. I'm not sure anymore if I got a physical ticket or if they just crossed my name on their manifest. In the train there should be a control, so in theory they know when you don't take the train. In my case it was the last leg of the ticket so I did not care about consequences, but I did not get miles fot that segment and of course did not insist.
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#5
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In normal circumstances I would say that you should not have to worry. Yes, you will have to go to the ticket counter in the railway station, they will personally hand you a 'boarding pass' and strike your name off on a manifest. But after that there is not much more of a control. If your ticket is checked on the train it is by the SNCF/NMBS train staff - nothing to do with AF.
HOWEVER, with the current security situation, I'd be much more reluctant. A passenger listed on a manifest as checked in but not present on the train might raise all kind of suspicion and alerts.
HOWEVER, with the current security situation, I'd be much more reluctant. A passenger listed on a manifest as checked in but not present on the train might raise all kind of suspicion and alerts.
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You have to take your bags in CDG and recheck them for the train. You can of course leave them at CDG and take the train without luggage. The train ticket however will not be delivered by the ticket machine but by specific train staff when entering the train track. At least that was the way it was done when I pretended to take the train with AF ticket the last time, some time back however. I'm not sure anymore if I got a physical ticket or if they just crossed my name on their manifest. In the train there should be a control, so in theory they know when you don't take the train. In my case it was the last leg of the ticket so I did not care about consequences, but I did not get miles fot that segment and of course did not insist.
After getting your train ticket from AF staff at AF counter at the station, which kind of control did you have to go through?
P.s. on board the train is not an AF check.
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When I last did it, there were AF people at train boarding who did check train BPs against a list. They were marking who was on and who was not. I have no idea whether this would be used to cancel the itineraries of those who were not onboard but personally, this is not a risk that I would be willing to take. If you book MEX-CDG-BRU and back, I would fly just that.
Also, note that on the return, your check in for the whole itinerary is done at Bruxelles Midi so again, if you were not chcking in there, that would be an other opportunity for them to cancel your CDG-MEX segment.
Also, note that on the return, your check in for the whole itinerary is done at Bruxelles Midi so again, if you were not chcking in there, that would be an other opportunity for them to cancel your CDG-MEX segment.
#8
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What I know for sure is that I did not get miles for that segment, so I assume that somehow they realized that I did not take the train, but you could probably blame communication between AF and SNCF in case of problems and you should get away with it. In my case the ticket counter was not in the office but at the entrance to the rail tracks and the agent of course saw that I did not go down the stairs but turned around back to the waiting area.
#9
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When I last did it, there were AF people at train boarding who did check train BPs against a list. They were marking who was on and who was not. I have no idea whether this would be used to cancel the itineraries of those who were not onboard but personally, this is not a risk that I would be willing to take. If you book MEX-CDG-BRU and back, I would fly just that.
Also, note that on the return, your check in for the whole itinerary is done at Bruxelles Midi so again, if you were not chcking in there, that would be an other opportunity for them to cancel your CDG-MEX segment.
Also, note that on the return, your check in for the whole itinerary is done at Bruxelles Midi so again, if you were not chcking in there, that would be an other opportunity for them to cancel your CDG-MEX segment.
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#10
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Join Date: Nov 2015
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I will really regret to lost at least 4 hours going and returning from BRU the same day and miss some really great spots in Paris but as others said I would be too stressed my whole Eurotrip thinking if skipping the train will have consequences when I get to BRU station for my return train/flight ticket and they tell me it is cancelled.
Thank you guys for all your replies.
Thank you guys for all your replies.