saraoutou

I thought the pictures were quite "speaking"
All U have to do is follow the signs pass immigration and TSA (no customs).
I also thought it was illustrating the precedent post."this file"

KLouis

This is absolutely not true!!! The "trip reporter" mentioned in one of the early answers in this thread wrote:

Il y a peu de monde et je passe vite. Aprčs cela il n’y a pas de douanes ŕ passer (plus de fiche bleue ŕ remplir) et on se dirige vers un passage marqué par un personnel AF tenant un panneau Paris CDG

which in plain English means:

There are few people and I pass quickly. After that there are no customs to pass (no more blue form to fill) and one goes towards a passage marked by AF staff holding a Paris CDG sign

I guess, the only hassle would be a long wait at immigration, something common when entering the US, although the "trip reporter" went through very fast. Time of that daY?

dbuster44

True. There is no Canadian immigration for CX's HKG-JFK vv passengers that take the flight with the YVR stop. So I don't see anything to be different if AF ever opts to do CDG-PPT via YVR. Not that I'm expecting them to do that anytime soon.
Pitiful that NZ axed the AKL-HKG-LHR route, forcing those wanting the "direct" flight to have to suck it up with the US nonsensical formalities. It "hardly" feels like a direct flight to be honest.

olivedel

You are right but I do not think that AF would leave without you.
I do not really see the point of USA making you go through immigration, besides the fact that US airports are just not physically designed to handle pure international connections.
For matters of safety, they could definitely make you clear security without immigration clearance.

Indeed, but how do immigration services check that you really have that transit visa, besides when checks are made at the end of the jet bridge, like they do sometimes at CDG?

orbitmic

To be honest it usually won't come to that as airlines check credentials carefully for flights into countries (including European) with strict visa regimes. If you would require a visa even to transit and do not have one, you simply won't be allowed to fly in the first place...

irishguy28

Well, I guess that if they cannot see in their systems that you have all the relevant visas required for your proposed journey [and in many cases the issuing of a visa is shared electronically - indeed, sometimes it only exists electronically - with relevant authorities, including airlines who must determine that the passenger is unlikely to be refused entry or further progress at any stage of the journey for which they are responsible for carriage] then they will ask you to provide documentary proof.

Any airline can determine at check-in whether an ESTA has been issued; most other forms of US visa should be documented in the passport itself. So determining who is eligible to "transfer" in the US should be relatively straightforward for anyone who needs to know this information. I presume the issuing of a transit visa for CDG, for instance, can also be verified electronically by anyone that would reasonably need to know this information in the course of their normal work (airlines, other immigration agencies, etc).

olivedel

Fair point.

Goldorak

But that's a sufficient reason ! Because you are mixed with departing pax, including for US domestic flights. There is no pure international departure areas in the US because there is no immigration/passport control on departure.

Of course, but as said previously, you are mixed with departing pax for intl or domestic flights and so, technically, you are on the US soil (hence immigration control)

NickB

Indeed and you can always walk out freely from departure areas at US airports so you could completely bypass immigration controls and enter the US.

SDQBound

My reply was based on the arrival procedures for another airline, and continuing on a different flight on the same airline but not the same airplane. What I described is the process "under normal circumstances" and I also mentioned that it is a bonus if the passengers don't have to claim their bags and re-check them.

I'm very sorry if my information was mistaken.

worldtraveler303

Any idea how the transit in LAX will be handled now? It is possible to book award tickets and purchase tickets from PPT to CDG via LAX. Would someone with a EU passport be allowed to pass through LAX given that it is not sterile? TN is routing via YVR, but it looks like AF continues LAX transit.

Goldorak

AF is also via YVR for August. But we can expect it will continue.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20France
TN seems also to continue CDG via YVR, but is re-starting PPT-LAX sector in September (without continuation to CDG)
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Tahiti

yno

friends did the flight via YVR a week or 2 ago, there was no deplaning. 21 hours in the plane

HalconBCN

wow! I would hope the catering is okay for such a long period on board

afmiami

Any info about the service in business class long haul recently? (catering specifically)