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Old Jan 26, 2015, 5:52 am
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La Premiere - Promo ex France

Hello,

I haven't see it on FT:
Book by February 5, 2015, travel from February 6 to May 31st, 2015

2 fares only:
5 kEUR to Johannesburg, Tokyo, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Los Angeles, New York, Singapore, Jakarta, Boston, Washington, San Francisco and Sao Paulo,
4 kEUR to Dubai, Beirut and Bangalore


It seems a quite good deal. I am surprised that it occurs so close to the December 14 promotion. Maybe to push people to buy F ticket even if the new seats are not available to all destinations.


http://www.airfrance.fr/FR/en/local/...a-premiere.htm
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 8:07 am
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I can see Goldorak and olivedel dancing in happiness!!!
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 8:11 am
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FCE = France?

How much of a discount do these fares represent? They don't appear particularly attractive fares to me!!!
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What does "two fares" mean? Two people - if yes, it's a great price!
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 8:27 am
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Very good question!!!

From the website:

2 fares**
** Indicated fares are return fares, departing from Paris, airport taxes and issuance fees included.

Appears to mean "return fare" then.

But the French-language page also refers to "2 tarifs" so it seems no less confusing in French.

Do they really mean this fare is for 2 people???

If it is a 2-for-1 return fare, then that is quite good value on some of those routes, moreso the longer ones!
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 8:47 am
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A dummy booking suggests it is a price per one person! What a pity, otherwise I would have likely jumped on this!
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 9:00 am
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Yes, FCE is for France. I can be misleading, but I cannot edit the thread title.


I think 2 fares means that AF is pricing all destinations on 2 costs only instead of having one cost per city.

2 pax for that price would have been a Premiere year
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by freretuc
I think 2 fares means that AF is pricing all destinations on 2 costs only instead of having one cost per city.
Indeed, that seems to be what they mean. Which is an extraordinarily unusual way of summarising the offer!

I have never before seen any airline refer to a sale/promo by the number of distinct price points on offer within the sale/promo!
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
FCE = France?

How much of a discount do these fares represent? They don't appear particularly attractive fares to me!!!
Well, I would say they are . CDG-NRT round trip outside this promotion is around 8.7K€.

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Yes, FCE is for France. I can be misleading, but I cannot edit the thread title.
Title has been updated .

It's better than if the promo had been limited to itineraries ex-CFE

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Old Jan 26, 2015, 11:37 am
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I liked CFE when was used as regional hub. but on the airplanes, I took flying thru CFE, there was no F ...
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
How much of a discount do these fares represent? They don't appear particularly attractive fares to me!!!
They are not attractive fares but they are a very significant discount over normal F fares, especially from France.
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
I can see Goldorak and olivedel dancing in happiness!!!
Indeed . I received this promo by e-mail about 10 days ago and found it pretty cool, even if it's less interesting than what we paid ex-DUS or TUN for our last revenue trips.

Originally Posted by irishguy28
How much of a discount do these fares represent? They don't appear particularly attractive fares to me!!!
They represent 50-60% discount, so not bad at all.

Originally Posted by JOUY31
Well, I would say they are . CDG-NRT round trip outside this promotion is around 8.7K€.
PAR-TYO is usually more in the 10-12 K€.
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak

PAR-TYO is usually more in the 10-12 K€.
Crazy money!

Does anyone pay full whack? I expect most tickets are corporate ones, sold at rates closer to these offer fares.

I wonder if JAL is cheaper?
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
Crazy money!

Does anyone pay full whack? I expect most tickets are corporate ones, sold at rates closer to these offer fares.

I wonder if JAL is cheaper?
I have of course no precise information but obviously, corporate tickets are discounted and large corporations which still allow some high level staff to fly F likely get big discounts. But, having flown a certain number of AF flights in P or having passed additionally several times through the P lounge (thanks to the paid option for the P services in CDG when flying J in a flight without P ), I have the feeling that about 30-40% of AF P pax are non-corporate pax, i.e. pax who can afford to fly P on their own money. But, again, that's just an impression and I might be completely wrong.

About JAL, I haven't checked but I'm sure the classical rule applies : JL is likely cheaper ex-CDG but not necessarily ex-Japan. But on JL ex-CDG, you don't have access to the fabulous P services proposed by AF, but just a "reserved" corner in the regular J lounge
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 1:42 pm
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Perhaps the lounge situation in Tokyo would more than offset this!

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but considering a couple of hours in a lounge - any lounge! - as being worth paying an extra few hundred Euro, let alone an extra few thousand Euro, just does not make sense to me.
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