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Paid access options for AF lounges are displayed after the lounge list.

EUROPE
France
  • CDG : AF lounges in
    • Terminal 2F (Schengen)
    • Terminal 2G (Schengen) : More info here.
    • Terminal 2E (non-Schengen) : one lounge in each concourse (K, L, M gates).Pictures of the renovated L lounge can be found here. La Premičre lounge is located in 2E-K and is subjected to special rules for access (P pax on AF-operating flights only, or capacity-controlled paid access for J pax flying on an AF-operating flight without P class).
    • Terminal 2C : arrival lounge, located landside at the extreme right of the terminal, after the last check-in counter, just before the corridor leading to 2A. This lounge has specific access rules and there is a specific thread about this lounge. This lounge is definitely closed. No arrival lounge facility is currently available for AF/Skyteam pax ending their journey in CDG (usual lounges are still available for transit pax).
Note that, among Skyteam partners :
- KL, AZ, UX depart from T2F and use AF lounges.
- ME, DL, VN, CZ, MU, RO, AM, KE, KQ depart from T2E and use AF lounges.
- SU and SV depart from T2C, where AF is not present anymore. So those airlines are using the contract lounges available in this terminal.
- OK departs from T2D, where AF is not present anymore. OK is using the contract lounge (SheltAir lounge) available in this terminal. (NO GUESTS ALLOWED FOR AF-TICKETED PAX on OK-SERVICE)
- AR, GA, CI and Xiamen do not serve CDG.

Train station (air+rail ticket): AF air+rail counter gives you if eligible a 16€-voucher to use at the Sheraton (opens at 7:30am).
  • ORY :
    • Orly 1 - A Gates (Former Orly West Hall 1 / Schengen flights) : contract lounge (Premium Traveler). Note 09/2022 : This lounge is not anymore accessible for free by AF pax (paid access only) More info here.
    • Orly 1 - B Gates (Former Orly West Hall 2 / Schengen flights) - AF lounge : more info here and here. This lounge is definitely closed.
    • Orly 2 (Schengen flights / C gates): AF lounge located near gate C16, upstairs.
    • Orly 3 (non-Schengen & Schengen flights) - AF lounge for non-Schengen flights.
  • BOD : AF lounge in terminal B (more info here). For the rare case that a flight would depart from Terminal A (or KLM flights BOD->AMS), there is a contract lounge available.
  • LYS (T1): All AFKL flights depart from T1. Eligible pax can use the Confluence Lounge (see description here, pictures there).
  • MRS : airport lounge (located airside in Term 1 hall B (formerly known as Hall 3)). More Info.
  • NCE (T2): airport lounges (Infinity lounge# for Schengen flights, Levity lounge for non-Schengen flights). More info here and here. Note : those lounges were previously called Cap Ferrat and Cap d'Antibes, respectively.
  • TLS : airport lounge (La croix du sud), airside. More info here.
  • MPL : airport lounge, airside. More info here.
  • MLH: Skyview lounge. more info here.
  • Other AF stations in France not listed above : no lounge.

Armenia
- EVN : Converse Bank Business Lounge. This is the generic contract lounge for all airlines at EVN. More info here

Austria
- VIE (terminal 1) : Vienna Lounge. More info here. Note that there is no more cooperation/code-share agreement between AF & OS on CDG-VIE route ==> no more access to OS lounge.

Belgium
- ZYR : Eurostar (ex-Thalys) lounge (business days), Pullman hotel (1st floor) on week-ends. Thalys lounge is outside the station, across the street from the AF counter. More info here.
- BRU : Diamond lounge, concourse A More info here Note that passengers on DL codeshare will have access to BA lounge in concourse B.
Bulgaria
- SOF : Preslav lounge

Croatia
- DBV : Business Lounge. More info here
- SPU : ???
- ZAG : Primeclass lounge. More info here

Czech Republic
- PRG : Erste Premier lounge. More info here and here.

Denmark
- BLL : airport lounge (King Amlet lounge).
- CPH : Aviator lounge. Review can be read here

Finland
- HEL : 2 airport lounges (Aspire) can be used by AF/KL eligible flyers. More info here (gate 27) and here (gate 13 - most recent one).

Georgia
- TBS : ?

Germany
- BER : Tempelhof lounge. More info here. Also available since 01/06/2023 : Tegel lounge.
- BRE : airport lounge. More info here
- DUS : airport lounge (Hugo Junkers). More info here
- FRA : AF lounge. More info here.
- HAJ : airport lounge (Karl Jato). More info here
- HAM : airport lounge. More info here
- MUC : AF lounge. More info here
- NUE : airport lounge. More info here (04/2018) and here (update 08/2023).
- STR : AF lounge. More info here and here (update 10/2023).

Greece
- ATH : airport lounge (Goldair Handling). More info here
- CFU : ???
- HER : no lounge
- JTR : no lounge
- JMK (Mykonos) : ???
- RHO (Rhodes) : no lounge

Hungary
- BUD : airport lounge (Skycourt lounge). More info here.

Ireland
- DUB : airport lounge (DAA Executive Lounge). More info here
- ORK : Aspire lounge

Italy
- BLQ : airport lounge (MBL lounge). More info here
- BRI : airport VIP lounge (Gaudio). More info here. Update 04/24 : AF doesn't provide anymore lounge access in BRI .
- CAG: Prima Vista Lounge. More info here.
- CTA : former AZ lounge.
- FCO (T1 Schengen) : Plaza Premium for AF/KL departures. New AZ lounge "The Hangar" seems to be for ITA and Air Europa only. (July '23). More info on Plaza Premium lounge here.
- FLR : airport lounge (VIP Club lounge). Pictures here and here.
- GOA : airport lounge (Sala Genova).- located landside, but with an exit directly into the fast track lane for security check. Note : AF route suspended since beginning of pandemic but KL operates and you have access.
- LIN : SEA Lounge Leonardo.
- MXP : Schengen area: Sala Monteverdi (more info here). Non-Schengen: Montale Lounge by default, Casa Alitalia only if on AZ ticket or AZ operated flight.
- NAP : New airport lounge (Pearl lounge) opened early July 2021. More info here and updated here
- OLB : Olbia Airport Club Lounge
- PMO : ???
- TRN : Airport lounge (Piemonte lounge). More info here
- VCE : Marco Polo lounge (more info here)

Latvia
- RIX*: Business lounge

* Route only flown by BT metal (AF & KL codeshares)

Lithuania
- VNO* : Business lounge

* Route only flown by BT metal (AF & KL codeshares)

The Netherlands
- AMS : 2 KL lounges (1 Schengen - lounge 25 and 1 non-Schengen - lounge 52). Pictures of the new non-Schengen KL lounge can be found here.

Norway
- BGO : Bergen Lounge More Info
- OSL : airport lounge (OSL lounge). More Info

Poland
- KRK : Airport business lounge. More info here
- KTW : Business lounge.
- WAW : airport lounge (Fantazja). More info here and here
- WRO : ?

Portugal
- LIS (T1) : airport lounge (ANA lounge). More info here
- OPO : Airport Lounge (ANA lounge). More info here

Romania
- OTP : Tarom Business lounge (more info here).

Russia
- LED : airport lounge (Pulkovo lounge).
- SVO (Term E): "Space" lounge for AF/KL (and other non-SU operated) flights. "Galaxy" lounge for SU operated flights. See info on Space lounge here

Serbia
- BEG : airport lounge (Bizniz lounge) for Y Elite+ pax; Air Serbia lounge for C pax.

Slovenia
- LJU : Business lounge. More info here

Spain
- AGP : airport lounge (Aena). More info here
- BCN (T1) : airport lounge (Pau Casals). More info here
- BIO : airport lounge (Aena). More info here
- IBZ (Seasonal) : airport lounge (Aena - Cap Des Falco). More info here
- MAD : airport lounge (Puerta del sol - more info here). Since this review, the lounge has been renovated. Other info about food offering here and here
- PMI : Sala Formentor. More info here
- SVQ : Airport lounge (Azahar lounge). More info here
- TFN : airport lounge (Aena - Nivaria). After security, 1st floor on the right before duty free.
- VLC : airport lounge (Aena - Joan Olivert lounge). More info here.

Sweden
- ARN (T2) : airport lounge (Pearl Lounge). More info here and here and here
- GOT : airport lounge (Menzies). More info here.

Switzerland
- GVA : AF lounge (French sector). More info here.
- ZRH : Aspire lounge (concourse B). More info here. Since 07/22, AF has moved to Marhaba lounge.
- BSL : see France / MLH

Turkey
- IST: Skyteam lounge

Ukraine
- KBP : airport lounge

United Kingdom
- ABZ: airport lounge (Servisair), called “Northern Lights” upstairs near gate 1.
- BHX : Aspire lounge, more info here. Aspire south also available.
- BRS : 1903 lounge. Update 04/2024 : being rebranded as Escape+ lounge.
- EDI : airport lounge (Two Aspire lounges - original by gate 4 and new one by gate 12) (more info here)
- GLA : airport lounge (Upper Deck). More info As from at least Dec'23, KL has moved to the Lomond Lounge More info
-HUY: Aspire lounge. (Route only flown by KL). More info
- LHR (T4) : Update March 2023 : AFKL are returning to T4. Lounge used seems to be the Plaza Premium. The Skyteam lounge in T4 is definitely closed(a review of this ST lounge can still be seen here: More Info). FB platinum members can use VS lounge in T3 when flying VS or DL from UK.
- MAN (T2) : Escape lounge until 17:00, then 1903 lounge after 17:00. More info here and there.
- NCL : Aspire Lounge.
- SOU : Spitfire Lounge (at least when traveling KL, not sure what happens when traveling T3 on AF-codeshare). More info.


NORTH AMERICA
Canada
- YQB : Salon VIP Club Med. More info here.
- YUL: AF/KL lounge. More info on the renovated lounge here and here. Pictures and review of the lounge before renovation can be found here.
- YOW : Aspire lounge. (Caution: FB members cannot bring guests into this lounge, a paid visit is $50.85 CAD; sending the receipt and boarding passes to AF and they may reimburse)
- YVR (International Terminal - Concourse D) : Skyteam lounge. More info here.
- YYZ (Term 3) : AF/KL lounge. More info here.

USA
Hereafter are listed the nonstop destinations to/from France (AF- and DL-operated as part of their transatlantic JV). DL SkyClubs are available in several other US airports and can be found on DL web site).
- ATL (Concourse F) : DL SkyClub (+ other DL SkyClubs in other concourses)
- BOS : for AF-operated flights (term E) : AF lounge (Graf lounge) - See here. Note that from 04/22, the DL- flights to CDG, AMS, LHR, FCO also depart from Term E and pax can use the AF lounge. For the other DL-operated flight (Term A): DL SkyClub. A new DL SkyClub will be available in 2023 in Terminal E.
- JFK : AF lounge in T1 (some pictures here and in this trip report). The mezzanine has been further enhanced for providing night service - see here and here. For the DL-operated flights JFK-NCE and JFK-CDG : DL SkyClub in T4.
- EWR (terminal B) : Plaza Premium lounge (ex-Virgin Club House). Note 08/2023 : lounge closed for renovation. A 35$ voucher can be obtained at check-in counter and used for F&B in the terminal.
- IAD : AF lounge (concourse A). Update July 2019 : lounge has reopened after extension and renovation. Pictures of the lounge before extension & renovation can be found here. More info after renovation here.
- MIA : LATAM lounge on J concourse.
- CVG* : DL SkyClub.
- DFW : Mar 2023 = AF uses Capital One lounge.
- DTW : several DL SkyClubs available in each concourse. AF (and DL) flights to CDG depart from Concourse A, which has 3 SkyClubs (the main one in the middle of the terminal and 1 at each of the terminal station of the trains system).
- ORD (T5) : Update 11 OCT 2022 : new DL SkyClub in terminal 5 where DL has moved operations. More info about DL lounge here. AF lounge is definitely closed (you can access previous review of the AF lounge here and a review of the Swissport lounge here that has been used temporarily until 10/10/2022).
- MSP : DL SkyClub.
- RDU* : DL SkyClub
- SLC* : DL SkyClub.
- SEA : DL SkyClub gate A1. Beware : AF leaves from S gates. No lounge for AF pax in S gates ==> need to use DL SkyClub at gate A1.
- IAH: AF lounge (Term D) reports of upcoming renovations, KLM lounge (recently renovated)
- SFO : AF lounge (International terminal - Concourse A). Note 16/06/2023 : the renovated and extended AF lounge has reopen. It includes a separate room for P pax and another one for Ultimate pax. Review of new SFO lounge can be read here.
- LAX (TBIT) : KE lounge. AF has also a plan to build their own lounge at TBIT (last info is april 2022). As of May 2022, AF is using OW lounge again (per pax report) and also DL in T2/3 is available with the new airside walkway to TBIT, also all ST-operated business/first class passengers can enter via the Delta One Private Check in on the arrivals level of T3, which has a private check-in lounge with food and beverages, private security and elevator access directly into the SkyClub
https://www.delta.com/us/en/airports...t-map#onecheck

* route flown by DL metal only

CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
- BOG : Avianca Diamond Lounge (AF is not using anymore the El Dorado lounge, reviewed here).
- CAY : AF lounge.
- CCS : airport lounge (Premier club). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- CUN (T4): Mera Business lounge.
- EZE (Term C): AR lounge (salon Condor). More Info
- FOR : ? (supposed to be a GOL lounge, TBC)
- GIG (T2) : GOL VIP lounge (more info here). Note : AF has moved their operations from T1 to T2 in June 2016. The former AF lounge in T1 has been definitely closed (a review of the former AF lounge in T1 is accessible here.). Note 01/23 : GOL lounge is still closed. AFKL pax can access the Plaza Premium lounge in T2. (More info here)
- GYE : Sala VIP $43
- GRU : WPremium lounge. More info here. (Formerly used executive VIP lounge (more info here) and American Express Centurion Lounge on the mezzanine of T3 (more info here)).
- LIM : airport lounge (SUMAQ VIP lounge). More info here.
- MEX (T1) : Grand Premier lounge : More info here.A specific lounge was used in 2019 for P pax, but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore (More info here). T2 Lounge "Sala VIP"
- PTY : Copa Club lounge.
- SCL : Skyteam lounge. More info here and here
- SJO : Jose Santamaria VIP Lounge next to gate 5. Wifi, food and drinks available. Make sure to mention that you are on AF as not all participating airlines offer free alcoholic beverages.
- UIO : Mitad del Mundo lounge. Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic

ASIA / PACIFIC
- BKK : AF lounge (concourse F). See here. Some pictures after the renovation are available here, here and here.
- BLR : Above Ground Lounge and partly closed for renovation (expected to re-open Summer 2020?). Currently Bangalore International Lounge.
- BOM : airport lounge (MALS - Mumbai Airport Lounge Services).
- DEL : Encalm Lounge on 2nd floor, accessible via elevator airport lounge (Plaza premium). Note 07/2023: Lounge closed. PAX receive vouchers for redemption at airport bars.
- HKG :AFKL pax use the Qantas Lounge (reviews here and here with 2023 pictures)
- HND (Int’l terminal) : JL Sakura lounge (more info here). There is also a DL SkyClub accessible to AF pax. AF P pax and FB Ultimates can use the JAL 1st class lounge near gate 112 in T3.
- ICN : KE lounge. See here. Note April 2018 : since this review, AFKL have moved operations to new terminal 2 and use the new KE lounge in T2.
- KIX : KIX Airside lounge.
- NOU : SB Hibiscus lounge (accessible to AF pax only when flying J between NOU and NRT or KIX, in connection with an AF flight to CDG).
- NRT : Premier lounge (Terminal 1). more info
- PEK (T2) : Skyteam lounge. More info here and here and here. Update DEC 2018 : Lounge temporarily (?) closed. Pax can use the T2 BGS lounge.
- PPT : TN lounge (Manuhiri lounge).
- PVG (T1) : P pax: MU "lounge 36" (gate 18). J and Elite+ pax: lounge 37 (gate 18) or 39 (just after security)
- SGN : VN lounge.
- SIN : Dnata SkyView lounge (term 1) for J and Elite Plus pax (more info here). EDIT 06/22: The Marhaba lounge is currently used for AF and KL J/Elite+ Pax -More info about Marhaba lounge here. For P pax : JetQuay lounge at C.I.P. terminal (more info in two trip reports : report 1 and report 2) and/or QF lounge airside (More info here). EDIT 12/23: All eligible pax. can now use the Qantas lounge in Terminal. See here and here.
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- TPE : CI lounge (Dynasty lounge). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- WUH : Airport lounge. Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic

CARIBBEAN & INDIAN OCEAN
- FDF : AF lounge.
- HAV : airport lounge.
- MLE : Leeli lounge
- MRU : MK lounge. More Info
- PAP : ?
- PTP : AF lounge.
- PUJ : airport lounge (VIP Lounge Punta Cana)
- RUN : AF lounge.
- SDQ : airport lounge (Sala VIP Caribe) More Info
- SEZ: airport lounge.
- SXM : airport lounge (Soualiga). Note 12/2021: lounge closed
- TNR : Constellation lounge


MIDDLE EAST
- AMM : airport lounge (Crown lounge). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- AUH (Term. A): Pearl lounge. More info here
- BEY : MEA Cedar lounge. More info here
- CAI (T2): SV Alfursan lounge. More info here
- DXB : Skyteam lounge in terminal 1 concourse D (more info here). AF P & Ultimate pax use the Ahlan lounge (more info on Ahlan lounge here).
- JED : (SV Lounge) Al Fursan Lounge. Info Here
- RUH (T2) : Contract lounge (Wellcome Lounge) Info here
- TLV (T3) : Airport lounges (Dan lounge, one at Concourse B and one at Concourse C). See info here



AFRICA
- ABJ : airport lounge (Aeria).
- ABV : airport lounge (FAAN VIP lounge)
- ACC: Akwaaba Lounge
- AGA : Pearl lounge. More info here
- ALG : AH lounge.
- BGF : airport lounge.
- BKO : airport lounge.
- BZV : ?
- CKY : airport lounge.
- CMN : AT lounge. More info here.
- COO : airport lounge.
- CPT : International - BidVest airport lounge
- DAR : CIP lounge. More info here
- DLA : AF lounge.
- DSS (New Dakar airport): Infinity lounge
- FIH : "VIP Départs" lounge. More info here
- FNA : airport lounge.
- JIB : AF lounge. More info here.
- JNB : SLOW lounge (P pax have access to a special controlled access VIP room with a butler in the SLOW lounge) - More info here. Note that the AF/KL lounge is closed permanently since April 1st, 2016. A review (with pics) of the ex AF lounge can be read here
- LAD : TAAG lounge.
- LBV : airport lounge.
- LFW: airport lounge (salon Union). More info here
- LOS : AF lounge.
- MBA : Safari lounge
- NBO : KQ lounge (Simba or Pride lounge). More info here. Note: Simba lounge is closed and may not reopen. Pride lounge is open.
- NDJ : ?
- NIM : airport lounge.
- NKC : airport lounge.
- ORN : VIP Egsa lounge
- OUA : airport lounge (Regie).
- PHC : airport lounge. Note : route to be suspended from end March 2019.
- PNR : airport lounge (HAT Enterprises).
- RAK : AT Oasis Lounge. More info here
- RBA : airport lounge (Pearl lounge). More info here
- ROB : ?
- SSG : Sala VIP lounge
- TNG : Pearl lounge
- TUN : TU lounge. More info here
- ZNZ : no lounge

Paid access for AF-operated lounges (as of 14 July 2023 for CDG/ORY lounges. Info for other lounges are dated from 17 OCT 2018 and are likely outdated):
FRANCE CDG & ORY
Advanced booking is possible online (in MMB), except for ORY2 (Schengen) lounge and one can pay in cash or miles. FB Silver members get 25% off if booked online at least 24hrs before flight (except ORY2 as it's not possible to pre-book the option for this lounge).There is no more 25% rebate for W pax applicable in CDG/ORY lounges.
- ORY3 (non-Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- ORY2 (Schengen) : adult 30€ or 6,000 miles; child 15€ or 3,000 miles.
- CDG 2F (Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- CDG 2E (non-Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- CDG 2G (Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.

OTHER FRANCE STATIONS (Outdated info)
BOD : 25 EUR or 6000 miles

EUROPE (non-France) (Outdated info)
- FRA : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- MUC : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- STR : 25 EUR or 6000 miles (lounge closed since beginning of pandemic)
- GVA : 40 CHF or 6000 miles

NORTH AMERICA (Outdated info)
- BOS : 35 USD or 6000 miles
- JFK : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- IAD : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- IAH : 35 USD or 6000 miles
- SFO : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- YYZ : 35 CAD or 6000 miles
- YUL : ?

APAC (Outdated info)
- BKK : 1000 THB or 6000 miles

AFRICA / MIDDLE EAST (Outdated info)
- DLA : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- LOS : ?

CARRIBEAN / INDIAN OCEAN (Outdated info)
- PTP : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- FDF : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- RUN : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- CAY : ?

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Old Jun 19, 2020, 1:45 am
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... and the pax on the picture is not scolded for not wearing a mask?

(I refrain from judgment whether that is a problem or not, I am not a scientist or otherwise qualified to have a valid opiniion - just surprised, because my impression was that AF were very strict with the mask thing).

BTW, is the opening schedule for the new lounge still more or less valid?
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Good news! Hopefully the lounge staff is not taking as much risk interacting with passengers as a cabin crew would take by serving a glass of water or a packed sandwich!
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Originally Posted by Porcepic
Good news! Hopefully the lounge staff is not taking as much risk interacting with passengers as a cabin crew would take by serving a glass of water or a packed sandwich!
Hilarious
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Originally Posted by Porcepic
Good news! Hopefully the lounge staff is not taking as much risk interacting with passengers as a cabin crew would take by serving a glass of water or a packed sandwich!
Tonight at 20H, let's all lean out of our windows and applaud those brave Flight Attendants.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 4:26 am
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
Tonight at 20H, let's all lean out of our windows and applaud those brave Flight Attendants.
On a longhaul KLM flight the purser made an announcement saying that the crew “volunteered to work on this flight” despite the risks. Clapping ensued. Meanwhile Business class passengers were left with a small bottle of water and cereal bar for a 9h flight despite paying north of $4k for a roundtrip ticket.
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
... and the pax on the picture is not scolded for not wearing a mask?

(I refrain from judgment whether that is a problem or not, I am not a scientist or otherwise qualified to have a valid opiniion - just surprised, because my impression was that AF were very strict with the mask thing).
You are correct and indeed AF is strict. I didn’t pay attention to what happened with this woman.

Originally Posted by San Gottardo
BTW, is the opening schedule for the new lounge still more or less valid?
yes. 2F1 is open since tuesday from 5:30 am to 6 pm. 2F2 reopens next Tuesday - same opening times as F1. If your reaction is « why closing so early ? », it is because the last flight is leaving at 18:00. Here was the departure board yesterday :




I was pleasantly surprised to see the terminal « busy » (as it was really ghost town during the lockdown and after until the restrictions for traveling were lifted in France). See pics below. The lounge attendant who was super happy to see me back told me all flights you can see on the picture above were full yesterday. Good to see that activity is re-starting.








Originally Posted by David7
On a longhaul KLM flight the purser made an announcement saying that the crew “volunteered to work on this flight” despite the risks. Clapping ensued. Meanwhile Business class passengers were left with a small bottle of water and cereal bar for a 9h flight despite paying north of $4k for a roundtrip ticket.
This is really laughable. I really like KL cabin crews usually but shame on them for that ridiculous attitude.
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Update on construction of new 2F lounge

The construction of the new single 2F lounge is progressing it seems, although I am sure the opening date will shift to 2021.
The future entrance zone:



The building :




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Thanks for the update on the new 2F lounge. That was actually the one I was curious about when asking about opening schedule (it was meant to open in 2020).
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
Thanks for the update on the new 2F lounge. That was actually the one I was curious about when asking about opening schedule (it was meant to open in 2020).
Sorry, I misread your post. No specific information, but as it was scheduled for end 2020, I believe that it will be now more towards end Q1-2021, assuming the construction has been stopped during 2-3 months.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 6:44 pm
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2F1 lounge expected to re-open on June 16th, 2F2 on June 23rd; 2E-K in early August after some refresh work.
I have a flight in 2 weeks out of CDG 2E, is it really true that the lounge is (still) closed?

In case of closure, will AF let me into the lounge in 2F, after arriving there? Or another option for me?

Due to the light loaded schedules, I am there with a long layover (6 hours...)

Thanks for the update
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by skycruiserNL
I have a flight in 2 weeks out of CDG 2E, is it really true that the lounge is (still) closed?
Yes, still closed.
Originally Posted by skycruiserNL
In case of closure, will AF let me into the lounge in 2F, after arriving there? Or another option for me?
I am sure they will accept.
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Yes, still closed.

I am sure they will accept.
But apparently still only til 6pm, leaving me 5 hours without a place to sit back... Will try to score a voucher at some counter I guess.

Thanks for your reply Goldorak!
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Originally Posted by skycruiserNL
But apparently still only til 6pm, leaving me 5 hours without a place to sit back... Will try to score a voucher at some counter I guess.

Thanks for your reply Goldorak!
I think they will extend the operating hours of the 2F lounges. Until last week, the last flight was around 18:00, hence the closing of the lounges at 18:00. But, from today, the number of flights is increasing and some are late (eg. BOD, TLS, MRS around 21:30). I will ask the Ultimate TA team.
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Originally Posted by skycruiserNL
But apparently still only til 6pm, leaving me 5 hours without a place to sit back... Will try to score a voucher at some counter I guess.

Thanks for your reply Goldorak!
Originally Posted by Goldorak
I think they will extend the operating hours of the 2F lounges. Until last week, the last flight was around 18:00, hence the closing of the lounges at 18:00. But, from today, the number of flights is increasing and some are late (eg. BOD, TLS, MRS around 21:30). I will ask the Ultimate TA team.
I was wayyy too optimistic when I wrote my post...I contacted the Ulti TA team as I have a late flight this week. And they answer that the lounges are still closing at 18:00 this week, as they do not have enough staff . I could not believe what I heard...
Lounges will close later from next week. Too bad for the pax flying this week...
They could have compensated that by proposing a 10 or 15 EUR voucher to use in a café of the terminal (don't even know what's open), but that's probably too much to ask.
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I was wayyy too optimistic when I wrote my post...I contacted the Ulti TA team as I have a late flight this week. And they answer that the lounges are still closing at 18:00 this week, as they do not have enough staff . I could not believe what I heard...
Lounges will close later from next week. Too bad for the pax flying this week...
They could have compensated that by proposing a 10 or 15 EUR voucher to use in a café of the terminal (don't even know what's open), but that's probably too much to ask.
most of the AF staff is still working partial time ; so , until they cannot work to 100%, we will not have the regular service we used to get .

AF needs to save money and for that AF is reducing service offered to PAX.
That’s a shame because ticket price have not decrease .
Onboard service on domestic and Europe and flights is closed to what you get on low cost carriers...
And at the same time, unions are making pressure to keep limited interactions with PAX, hence this limited service as well .

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