Jan 2, 2015, 8:17 am
Last edit by: Goldorak
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Paid access options for AF lounges are displayed after the lounge list.
EUROPE
Paid access options for AF lounges are displayed after the lounge list.
EUROPE
France
- CDG : AF lounges in
- Terminal 2F (Schengen)
- Terminal 2G (Schengen) : More info here.
- Terminal 2E (non-Schengen) : one lounge in each concourse (K, L, M gates).Pictures of the renovated L lounge can be found here. La Premičre lounge is located in 2E-K and is subjected to special rules for access (P pax on AF-operating flights only, or capacity-controlled paid access for J pax flying on an AF-operating flight without P class).
Terminal 2C : arrival lounge, located landside at the extreme right of the terminal, after the last check-in counter, just before the corridor leading to 2A. This lounge has specific access rules and there is a specific thread about this lounge.This lounge is definitely closed. No arrival lounge facility is currently available for AF/Skyteam pax ending their journey in CDG (usual lounges are still available for transit pax).
- KL, AZ, UX depart from T2F and use AF lounges.
- ME, DL, VN, CZ, MU, RO, AM, KE, KQ depart from T2E and use AF lounges.
- SU and SV depart from T2C, where AF is not present anymore. So those airlines are using the contract lounges available in this terminal.
- OK departs from T2D, where AF is not present anymore. OK is using the contract lounge (SheltAir lounge) available in this terminal. (NO GUESTS ALLOWED FOR AF-TICKETED PAX on OK-SERVICE)
- AR, GA, CI and Xiamen do not serve CDG.
Train station (air+rail ticket): AF air+rail counter gives you if eligible a 16€-voucher to use at the Sheraton (opens at 7:30am).
- ORY :
- Orly 1 - A Gates (Former Orly West Hall 1 / Schengen flights) : contract lounge (Premium Traveler). Note 09/2022 : This lounge is not anymore accessible for free by AF pax (paid access only) More info here.
Orly 1 - B Gates (Former Orly West Hall 2 / Schengen flights) - AF lounge : more info here andhere.This lounge is definitely closed.- Orly 2 (Schengen flights / C gates): AF lounge located near gate C16, upstairs.
- Orly 3 (non-Schengen & Schengen flights) - AF lounge for non-Schengen flights.
- BOD : AF lounge in terminal B (more info here). For the rare case that a flight would depart from Terminal A (or KLM flights BOD->AMS), there is a contract lounge available.
- LYS (T1): All AFKL flights depart from T1. Eligible pax can use the Confluence Lounge (see description here, pictures there).
- MRS : airport lounge (located airside in Term 1 hall B (formerly known as Hall 3)). More Info.
- NCE (T2): airport lounges (Infinity lounge# for Schengen flights, Levity lounge for non-Schengen flights). More info here and here. Note : those lounges were previously called Cap Ferrat and Cap d'Antibes, respectively.
- TLS : airport lounge (La croix du sud), airside. More info here.
- MPL : airport lounge, airside. More info here.
- MLH: Skyview lounge. more info here.
- Other AF stations in France not listed above : no lounge.
Armenia
- EVN : Converse Bank Business Lounge. This is the generic contract lounge for all airlines at EVN. More info here
Austria
- VIE (terminal 1) : Vienna Lounge. More info here. Note that there is no more cooperation/code-share agreement between AF & OS on CDG-VIE route ==> no more access to OS lounge.
Belgium
- ZYR : Eurostar (ex-Thalys) lounge (business days), Pullman hotel (1st floor) on week-ends. Thalys lounge is outside the station, across the street from the AF counter. More info here.
- BRU : Diamond lounge, concourse A More info here Note that passengers on DL codeshare will have access to BA lounge in concourse B.
Bulgaria
- SOF : Preslav lounge
Croatia
- DBV : Business Lounge. More info here
- SPU : ???
- ZAG : Primeclass lounge. More info here
Czech Republic
- PRG : Erste Premier lounge. More info here and here.
Denmark
- BLL : airport lounge (King Amlet lounge).
- CPH : Aviator lounge. Review can be read here
Finland
- HEL : 2 airport lounges (Aspire) can be used by AF/KL eligible flyers. More info here (gate 27) and here (gate 13 - most recent one).
Georgia
- TBS : ?
Germany
- BER : Tempelhof lounge. More info here. Also available since 01/06/2023 : Tegel lounge.
- BRE : airport lounge. More info here
- DUS : airport lounge (Hugo Junkers). More info here
- FRA : AF lounge. More info here.
- HAJ : airport lounge (Karl Jato). More info here
- HAM : airport lounge. More info here
- MUC : AF lounge. More info here
- NUE : airport lounge. More info here (04/2018) and here (update 08/2023).
- STR : AF lounge. More info here and here (update 10/2023).
Greece
- ATH : airport lounge (Goldair Handling). More info here
- CFU : ???
- HER : no lounge
- JTR : no lounge
- JMK (Mykonos) : ???
- RHO (Rhodes) : no lounge
Hungary
- BUD : airport lounge (Skycourt lounge). More info here.
Ireland
- DUB : airport lounge (DAA Executive Lounge). More info here
- ORK : Aspire lounge
Italy
- BLQ : airport lounge (MBL lounge). More info here
- BRI :
.- CAG: Prima Vista Lounge. More info here.
- CTA : former AZ lounge.
- FCO (T1 Schengen) : Plaza Premium for AF/KL departures. New AZ lounge "The Hangar" seems to be for ITA and Air Europa only. (July '23). More info on Plaza Premium lounge here.
- FLR : airport lounge (VIP Club lounge). Pictures here and here.
- GOA : airport lounge (Sala Genova).- located landside, but with an exit directly into the fast track lane for security check. Note : AF route suspended since beginning of pandemic but KL operates and you have access.
- LIN : SEA Lounge Leonardo.
- MXP : Schengen area: Sala Monteverdi (more info here). Non-Schengen: Montale Lounge by default, Casa Alitalia only if on AZ ticket or AZ operated flight.
- NAP : New airport lounge (Pearl lounge) opened early July 2021. More info here and updated here
- OLB : Olbia Airport Club Lounge
- PMO : ???
- TRN : Airport lounge (Piemonte lounge). More info here
- VCE : Marco Polo lounge (more info here)
Latvia
- RIX*: Business lounge
* Route only flown by BT metal (AF & KL codeshares)
Lithuania
- VNO* : Business lounge
* Route only flown by BT metal (AF & KL codeshares)
The Netherlands
- AMS : 2 KL lounges (1 Schengen - lounge 25 and 1 non-Schengen - lounge 52). Pictures of the new non-Schengen KL lounge can be found here.
Norway
- BGO : Bergen Lounge More Info
- OSL : airport lounge (OSL lounge). More Info
Poland
- KRK : Airport business lounge. More info here
- KTW : Business lounge.
- WAW : airport lounge (Fantazja). More info here and here
- WRO : ?
Portugal
- LIS (T1) : airport lounge (ANA lounge). More info here
- OPO : Airport Lounge (ANA lounge). More info here
Romania
- OTP : Tarom Business lounge (more info here).
Russia
- LED : airport lounge (Pulkovo lounge).
- SVO (Term E): "Space" lounge for AF/KL (and other non-SU operated) flights. "Galaxy" lounge for SU operated flights. See info on Space lounge here
Serbia
- BEG : airport lounge (Bizniz lounge) for Y Elite+ pax; Air Serbia lounge for C pax.
Slovenia
- LJU : Business lounge. More info here
Spain
- AGP : airport lounge (Aena). More info here
- BCN (T1) : airport lounge (Pau Casals). More info here
- BIO : airport lounge (Aena). More info here
- IBZ (Seasonal) : airport lounge (Aena - Cap Des Falco). More info here
- MAD : airport lounge (Puerta del sol - more info here). Since this review, the lounge has been renovated. Other info about food offering here and here
- PMI : Sala Formentor. More info here
- SVQ : Airport lounge (Azahar lounge). More info here
- TFN : airport lounge (Aena - Nivaria). After security, 1st floor on the right before duty free.
- VLC : airport lounge (Aena - Joan Olivert lounge). More info here.
Sweden
- ARN (T2) : airport lounge (Pearl Lounge). More info here and here and here
- GOT : airport lounge (Menzies). More info here.
Switzerland
- GVA : AF lounge (French sector). More info here.
- ZRH :
- BSL : see France / MLH
Turkey
- IST: Skyteam lounge
Ukraine
- KBP : airport lounge
United Kingdom
- ABZ: airport lounge (Servisair), called “Northern Lights” upstairs near gate 1.
- BHX : Aspire lounge, more info here. Aspire south also available.
- BRS :
- EDI : airport lounge (Two Aspire lounges - original by gate 4 and new one by gate 12) (more info here)
- GLA :
-HUY: Aspire lounge. (Route only flown by KL). More info
- LHR (T4) : Update March 2023 : AFKL are returning to T4. Lounge used seems to be the Plaza Premium. The Skyteam lounge in T4 is definitely closed(a review of this ST lounge can still be seen here: More Info). FB platinum members can use VS lounge in T3 when flying VS or DL from UK.
- MAN (T2) : Escape lounge until 17:00, then 1903 lounge after 17:00. More info here and there.
- NCL : Aspire Lounge.
- SOU : Spitfire Lounge (at least when traveling KL, not sure what happens when traveling T3 on AF-codeshare). More info.
NORTH AMERICA
Canada
- YQB : Salon VIP Club Med. More info here.
- YUL: AF/KL lounge. More info on the renovated lounge here and here. Pictures and review of the lounge before renovation can be found here.
- YOW : Aspire lounge. (Caution: FB members cannot bring guests into this lounge, a paid visit is $50.85 CAD; sending the receipt and boarding passes to AF and they may reimburse)
- YVR (International Terminal - Concourse D) : Skyteam lounge. More info here.
- YYZ (Term 3) : AF/KL lounge. More info here.
USA
Hereafter are listed the nonstop destinations to/from France (AF- and DL-operated as part of their transatlantic JV). DL SkyClubs are available in several other US airports and can be found on DL web site).
- ATL (Concourse F) : DL SkyClub (+ other DL SkyClubs in other concourses)
- BOS : for AF-operated flights (term E) : AF lounge (Graf lounge) - See here. Note that from 04/22, the DL- flights to CDG, AMS, LHR, FCO also depart from Term E and pax can use the AF lounge. For the other DL-operated flight (Term A): DL SkyClub. A new DL SkyClub will be available in 2023 in Terminal E.
- JFK : AF lounge in T1 (some pictures here and in this trip report). The mezzanine has been further enhanced for providing night service - see here and here. For the DL-operated flights JFK-NCE and JFK-CDG : DL SkyClub in T4.
- EWR (terminal B) : Plaza Premium lounge (ex-Virgin Club House). Note 08/2023 : lounge closed for renovation. A 35$ voucher can be obtained at check-in counter and used for F&B in the terminal.
- IAD : AF lounge (concourse A). Update July 2019 : lounge has reopened after extension and renovation. Pictures of the lounge before extension & renovation can be found here. More info after renovation here.
- MIA : LATAM lounge on J concourse.
- CVG* : DL SkyClub.
- DFW : Mar 2023 = AF uses Capital One lounge.
- DTW : several DL SkyClubs available in each concourse. AF (and DL) flights to CDG depart from Concourse A, which has 3 SkyClubs (the main one in the middle of the terminal and 1 at each of the terminal station of the trains system).
- ORD (T5) : Update 11 OCT 2022 : new DL SkyClub in terminal 5 where DL has moved operations. More info about DL lounge here. AF lounge is definitely closed (you can access previous review of the AF lounge here and a review of the Swissport lounge here that has been used temporarily until 10/10/2022).
- MSP : DL SkyClub.
- RDU* : DL SkyClub
- SLC* : DL SkyClub.
- SEA : DL SkyClub gate A1. Beware : AF leaves from S gates. No lounge for AF pax in S gates ==> need to use DL SkyClub at gate A1.
- IAH: AF lounge (Term D) reports of upcoming renovations, KLM lounge (recently renovated)
- SFO : AF lounge (International terminal - Concourse A). Note 16/06/2023 : the renovated and extended AF lounge has reopen. It includes a separate room for P pax and another one for Ultimate pax. Review of new SFO lounge can be read here.
- LAX (TBIT) : KE lounge. AF has also a plan to build their own lounge at TBIT (last info is april 2022). As of May 2022, AF is using OW lounge again (per pax report) and also DL in T2/3 is available with the new airside walkway to TBIT, also all ST-operated business/first class passengers can enter via the Delta One Private Check in on the arrivals level of T3, which has a private check-in lounge with food and beverages, private security and elevator access directly into the SkyClub
https://www.delta.com/us/en/airports...t-map#onecheck
* route flown by DL metal only
CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
- BOG : El Dorado lounge. More info here
- CAY : AF lounge.
- CCS : airport lounge (Premier club). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- CUN (T4): Mera Business lounge.
- EZE (Term C): AR lounge (salon Condor). More Info
- FOR : ? (supposed to be a GOL lounge, TBC)
- GIG (T2) : GOL VIP lounge (more info here). Note : AF has moved their operations from T1 to T2 in June 2016. The former AF lounge in T1 has been definitely closed (a review of the former AF lounge in T1 is accessible here.). Note 01/23 : GOL lounge is still closed. AFKL pax can access the Plaza Premium lounge in T2. (More info here)
- GYE : Sala VIP $43
- GRU : WPremium lounge. More info here. (Formerly used executive VIP lounge (more info here) and American Express Centurion Lounge on the mezzanine of T3 (more info here)).
- LIM : airport lounge (SUMAQ VIP lounge). More info here.
- MEX (T1) : Grand Premier lounge : More info here.A specific lounge was used in 2019 for P pax, but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore (More info here). T2 Lounge "Sala VIP"
- PTY : Copa Club lounge.
- SCL : Skyteam lounge. More info here and here
- SJO : Jose Santamaria VIP Lounge next to gate 5. Wifi, food and drinks available. Make sure to mention that you are on AF as not all participating airlines offer free alcoholic beverages.
- UIO : Mitad del Mundo lounge. Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
ASIA / PACIFIC
- BKK : AF lounge (concourse F). See here. Some pictures after the renovation are available here, here and here.
- BLR : Above Ground Lounge and partly closed for renovation (expected to re-open Summer 2020?). Currently Bangalore International Lounge.
- BOM : airport lounge (MALS - Mumbai Airport Lounge Services).
- DEL : Encalm Lounge on 2nd floor, accessible via elevator
- HKG :AFKL pax use the Qantas Lounge (reviews here and here with 2023 pictures)
- HND (Int’l terminal) : JL Sakura lounge (more info here). There is also a DL SkyClub accessible to AF pax. AF P pax and FB Ultimates can use the JAL 1st class lounge near gate 112 in T3.
- ICN : KE lounge. See here. Note April 2018 : since this review, AFKL have moved operations to new terminal 2 and use the new KE lounge in T2.
- KIX : KIX Airside lounge.
- NOU : SB Hibiscus lounge (accessible to AF pax only when flying J between NOU and NRT or KIX, in connection with an AF flight to CDG).
- NRT : Premier lounge (Terminal 1). more info
- PEK (T2) : Skyteam lounge. More info here and here and here. Update DEC 2018 : Lounge temporarily (?) closed. Pax can use the T2 BGS lounge.
- PPT : TN lounge (Manuhiri lounge).
- PVG (T1) : P pax: MU "lounge 36" (gate 18). J and Elite+ pax: lounge 37 (gate 18) or 39 (just after security)
- SGN : VN lounge.
- SIN :
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- TPE : CI lounge (Dynasty lounge). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- WUH : Airport lounge. Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
CARIBBEAN & INDIAN OCEAN
- FDF : AF lounge.
- HAV : airport lounge.
- MLE : Leeli lounge
- MRU : MK lounge. More Info
- PAP : ?
- PTP : AF lounge.
- PUJ : airport lounge (VIP Lounge Punta Cana)
- RUN : AF lounge.
- SDQ : airport lounge (Sala VIP Caribe) More Info
- SEZ: airport lounge.
- SXM : airport lounge (Soualiga). Note 12/2021: lounge closed
- TNR : Constellation lounge
MIDDLE EAST
- AMM : airport lounge (Crown lounge). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- AUH (Term. A): Pearl lounge. More info here
- BEY : MEA Cedar lounge. More info here
- CAI (T2): SV Alfursan lounge. More info here
- DXB : Skyteam lounge in terminal 1 concourse D (more info here). AF P & Ultimate pax use the Ahlan lounge (more info on Ahlan lounge here).
- JED : (SV Lounge) Al Fursan Lounge. Info Here
- RUH (T2) : Contract lounge (Wellcome Lounge) Info here
- TLV (T3) : Airport lounges (Dan lounge, one at Concourse B and one at Concourse C). See info here
AFRICA
- ABJ : airport lounge (Aeria).
- ABV : airport lounge (FAAN VIP lounge)
- ACC: Akwaaba Lounge
- AGA : Pearl lounge. More info here
- ALG : AH lounge.
- BGF : airport lounge.
- BKO : airport lounge.
- BZV : ?
- CKY : airport lounge.
- CMN : AT lounge. More info here.
- COO : airport lounge.
- CPT : International - BidVest airport lounge
- DAR : CIP lounge. More info here
- DLA : AF lounge.
- DSS (New Dakar airport): Infinity lounge
- FIH : "VIP Départs" lounge. More info here
- FNA : airport lounge.
- JIB : AF lounge. More info here.
- JNB : SLOW lounge (P pax have access to a special controlled access VIP room with a butler in the SLOW lounge) - More info here. Note that the AF/KL lounge is closed permanently since April 1st, 2016. A review (with pics) of the ex AF lounge can be read here
- LAD : TAAG lounge.
- LBV : airport lounge.
- LFW: airport lounge (salon Union). More info here
- LOS : AF lounge.
- MBA : Safari lounge
- NBO : KQ lounge (Simba or Pride lounge). More info here. Note: Simba lounge is closed and may not reopen. Pride lounge is open.
- NDJ : ?
- NIM : airport lounge.
- NKC : airport lounge.
- ORN : VIP Egsa lounge
- OUA : airport lounge (Regie).
- PHC : airport lounge. Note : route to be suspended from end March 2019.
- PNR : airport lounge (HAT Enterprises).
- RAK : AT Oasis Lounge. More info here
- RBA : airport lounge (Pearl lounge). More info here
- ROB : ?
- SSG : Sala VIP lounge
- TNG : Pearl lounge
- TUN : TU lounge. More info here
- ZNZ : no lounge
Paid access for AF-operated lounges (as of 14 July 2023 for CDG/ORY lounges. Info for other lounges are dated from 17 OCT 2018 and are likely outdated):
FRANCE CDG & ORY
Advanced booking is possible online (in MMB), except for ORY2 (Schengen) lounge and one can pay in cash or miles. FB Silver members get 25% off if booked online at least 24hrs before flight (except ORY2 as it's not possible to pre-book the option for this lounge).There is no more 25% rebate for W pax applicable in CDG/ORY lounges.
- ORY3 (non-Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- ORY2 (Schengen) : adult 30€ or 6,000 miles; child 15€ or 3,000 miles.
- CDG 2F (Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- CDG 2E (non-Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- CDG 2G (Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
OTHER FRANCE STATIONS (Outdated info)
BOD : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
EUROPE (non-France) (Outdated info)
- FRA : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- MUC : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- STR : 25 EUR or 6000 miles (lounge closed since beginning of pandemic)
- GVA : 40 CHF or 6000 miles
NORTH AMERICA (Outdated info)
- BOS : 35 USD or 6000 miles
- JFK : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- IAD : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- IAH : 35 USD or 6000 miles
- SFO : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- YYZ : 35 CAD or 6000 miles
- YUL : ?
APAC (Outdated info)
- BKK : 1000 THB or 6000 miles
AFRICA / MIDDLE EAST (Outdated info)
- DLA : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- LOS : ?
CARRIBEAN / INDIAN OCEAN (Outdated info)
- PTP : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- FDF : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- RUN : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- CAY : ?
Template lounge review
Name of the lounge
Location
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Entry requirements
Food offer
Drinks offer
Services
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Loungers/sleep area:
Business area:
Spa:
TV area:
Passengers are called:
Information screen:
Newspapers:
Other information
Number of seats:
Level of noise:
Design:
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Air France lounges and contract lounges master thread
Apr 10, 2017, 3:42 pm
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Apr 11, 2017, 3:29 am
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Earlier at the lounge in the K gates, I was told by an AF agent that part of the L gates lounge will close soon for renovation.
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thank you for the info. They can indeed do it half/half. But this lounge can get so crowded sometime, that even if they close only half of it, they will need to find a temporary place for the other half. Or for the afternoon services, they could transfer some flights to the M concourse (extending its operation hours).
Apr 13, 2017, 6:58 am
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SVO - Moscow Sheremetyevo - Term E
Name of the lounge: SVO Term E - Space lounge
Location : after immigration and security, go upstairs at the gate level. Follow the signs for Galaxy/Space lounge. Those 2 lounges are adjacent, but AF/KL use the Space lounge on the right.
It's been several years since I have been in Moscow and it was the 1st time since AF moved to this terminal & lounge. So of course, the experience is a huge improvement compared to the absolute crap terminal and lounge they were using before (was it F ?). But overall, not the best lounge in the world, but acceptable. Also, a hint for SVO travelers, AF sends you electronic BP in the app or by e-mail, but they are systematically refused and you absolutely need a paper BP so that they can stamp it everywhere every 5 minutes
Opening Hours : unknown, but likely all day knowing the number of airlines using it
Entry requirements : FB Gold/Plat. Physical card required. They make a copy of card + paper BP.
Food offer : I was there early morning, so breakfast time : some bad looking sausages as the sole warm option. Muffins, cold cuts and sliced cheese (not very good looking), muffins, cakes, fruits
Drinks offer : there is an attended bar (closed when I was there) which seems to have a large choice of wines and liquors. Otherwise the classical juices, soft drinks, coffee, etc.
Services
Wifi: yes (airport wifi, no lounge network)
Showers: unknown
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: no but the lounge was quiet
Loungers/sleep area: no, but some sofa you can lay down on
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: yes
Passengers are called: yes
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes
Other information
Number of seats: about 100
Level of noise: low
Design: see pictures
View: yes
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: unknown
Direct boarding: No
Location : after immigration and security, go upstairs at the gate level. Follow the signs for Galaxy/Space lounge. Those 2 lounges are adjacent, but AF/KL use the Space lounge on the right.
It's been several years since I have been in Moscow and it was the 1st time since AF moved to this terminal & lounge. So of course, the experience is a huge improvement compared to the absolute crap terminal and lounge they were using before (was it F ?). But overall, not the best lounge in the world, but acceptable. Also, a hint for SVO travelers, AF sends you electronic BP in the app or by e-mail, but they are systematically refused and you absolutely need a paper BP so that they can stamp it everywhere every 5 minutes
Opening Hours : unknown, but likely all day knowing the number of airlines using it
Entry requirements : FB Gold/Plat. Physical card required. They make a copy of card + paper BP.
Food offer : I was there early morning, so breakfast time : some bad looking sausages as the sole warm option. Muffins, cold cuts and sliced cheese (not very good looking), muffins, cakes, fruits
Drinks offer : there is an attended bar (closed when I was there) which seems to have a large choice of wines and liquors. Otherwise the classical juices, soft drinks, coffee, etc.
Services
Wifi: yes (airport wifi, no lounge network)
Showers: unknown
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: no but the lounge was quiet
Loungers/sleep area: no, but some sofa you can lay down on
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: yes
Passengers are called: yes
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes
Other information
Number of seats: about 100
Level of noise: low
Design: see pictures
View: yes
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: unknown
Direct boarding: No
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Apr 14, 2017, 1:04 pm
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CDG 2E-L concourse lounge closed for renovation
CDG 2E - L concourse lounge is closed for renovation since 20/04 and until 15 JAN 2018. We can guess it is a real renovation !!
This time, no temporary lounge, but customers flying from L will be able to use K and M lounges, with the following rules announced by AF:
- if you are on one of the flights departing 2E but with a check-in in 2F, you go to M lounge and there is a special airside shuttle at gates M21/M23 to bring you to L.
- if you check-in in 2E, you go to K lounge, and there is a special airside shuttle at gates K25/K26 to bring you to L.
Impacted customers will receive an e-mail 24hrs before their flight informing them of L lounge being closed.
AF has also released a leaflet with a map and a list of flights corresponding to the 2 categories described above. But it is rather confusing and incomplete, as for the 2nd category, they list only flights departing in the last bank (23:00- 23:30). And no partners flights are listed (DL, VN, CZ, MU, etc).
One question that will come quickly is "do we have to follow those rules if we leave from L, i.e. can we go to M lounge even if we are supposed to go to the K one?" I don't know for sure, but I would tend to say yes, as this "if your check-in-in is in 2F rule" makes no sense for connecting pax.
It is of course a good news that they are renovating this lounge, but I am worrying for the K and M lounge experience, knowing how crowded the 3 lounges can be every day, especially in the morning and until 2 pm. I think I will appreciate my "Ultimate corner"...
Please report experiences here for accessing one or the other lounge. Good luck
This time, no temporary lounge, but customers flying from L will be able to use K and M lounges, with the following rules announced by AF:
- if you are on one of the flights departing 2E but with a check-in in 2F, you go to M lounge and there is a special airside shuttle at gates M21/M23 to bring you to L.
- if you check-in in 2E, you go to K lounge, and there is a special airside shuttle at gates K25/K26 to bring you to L.
Impacted customers will receive an e-mail 24hrs before their flight informing them of L lounge being closed.
AF has also released a leaflet with a map and a list of flights corresponding to the 2 categories described above. But it is rather confusing and incomplete, as for the 2nd category, they list only flights departing in the last bank (23:00- 23:30). And no partners flights are listed (DL, VN, CZ, MU, etc).
One question that will come quickly is "do we have to follow those rules if we leave from L, i.e. can we go to M lounge even if we are supposed to go to the K one?" I don't know for sure, but I would tend to say yes, as this "if your check-in-in is in 2F rule" makes no sense for connecting pax.
It is of course a good news that they are renovating this lounge, but I am worrying for the K and M lounge experience, knowing how crowded the 3 lounges can be every day, especially in the morning and until 2 pm. I think I will appreciate my "Ultimate corner"...
Please report experiences here for accessing one or the other lounge. Good luck
Last edited by Goldorak; Apr 22, 2017 at 2:14 am
Apr 22, 2017, 2:28 am
#415
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PEK : New Skyteam lounge
A new Skyteam lounge has been inaugurated in PEK Terminal 2 on April 7, 2017.
All Skyteam airlines serving PEK operates from T2, except AZ and CI. I don't know if those carriers will move to T2 or not. For a strange reason, the AF announcement says that GA, SU and VN will not use this lounge, despite they operate from T2.
. See this on the positive side, it means less people in the Skyteam lounge . But to add to the confusion, Skyteam website indicates that GA is using the lounge...
It looks nice as per the pictures you can see on Skyteam website (sorry, I can't link to English language. My computer always brings me to the French pages).
https://www.skyteam.com/fr/lounges/Beijing
From AF/KL travel agent portal:
All Skyteam airlines serving PEK operates from T2, except AZ and CI. I don't know if those carriers will move to T2 or not. For a strange reason, the AF announcement says that GA, SU and VN will not use this lounge, despite they operate from T2.
. See this on the positive side, it means less people in the Skyteam lounge . But to add to the confusion, Skyteam website indicates that GA is using the lounge...It looks nice as per the pictures you can see on Skyteam website (sorry, I can't link to English language. My computer always brings me to the French pages).
https://www.skyteam.com/fr/lounges/Beijing
From AF/KL travel agent portal:
Un nouveau salon SkyTeam a été inauguré le 7 avril 2017 dans la zone des départs internationaux du Terminal 2 de l'aéroport de la capitale, Beijing (Pékin).
Le salon a été mis en place en étroite collaboration avec China Eastern et China Southern. L'entreprise Beijing Aviation Ground Services gčre et exploite les installations au nom de l'alliance.
Nos clients haute contribution bénéficieront d'une expérience réellement améliorée ŕ Beijing (BJS), car le salon permet d'accéder aux services suivants :
- Un buffet proposant toute la journée des plats chauds et froids issus de la gastronomie chinoise et internationale. Les clients ont l'opportunité de se servir des boissons chaudes, de l'eau, des boissons gazeuses, des bičres de qualité supérieure, des spiritueux ou de prendre un verre au bar ŕ vin.
- De grandes fenętres incurvées laissant pénétrer la lumičre du jour offrent des panoramas sur l'aéroport, tandis que le célčbre mur végétal SkyTeam’s – une création botanique présente dans tous les salons – ajoute une note naturelle accueillante.
- Le Wi-Fi gratuit, un espace Affaires avec des ordinateurs et des prises électriques réparties dans l'ensemble du salon
- Des douches équipées de serviettes et d'articles de toilette pour se rafraichir avant le vol
- Un espace de tranquillité avec salle télé séparée, une zone de relaxation et une salle VIP pour plus d'intimité
Ŕ l'aéroport de Beijing (PEK), l'ensemble des transporteurs SkyTeam opčrent ŕ partir du Terminal 2, ŕ l'exception de Alitalia (AZ) et China Airlines (CI) qui oprčrent ŕ partir du Terminal 3.
Notez par ailleurs que le salon ne sera pas utilisé par Garuda (GA), Aeroflot (SU) et Vietnam Airlines (VN), qui opčrent ŕ partir du Terminal 2.
Le salon a été mis en place en étroite collaboration avec China Eastern et China Southern. L'entreprise Beijing Aviation Ground Services gčre et exploite les installations au nom de l'alliance.
Nos clients haute contribution bénéficieront d'une expérience réellement améliorée ŕ Beijing (BJS), car le salon permet d'accéder aux services suivants :
- Un buffet proposant toute la journée des plats chauds et froids issus de la gastronomie chinoise et internationale. Les clients ont l'opportunité de se servir des boissons chaudes, de l'eau, des boissons gazeuses, des bičres de qualité supérieure, des spiritueux ou de prendre un verre au bar ŕ vin.
- De grandes fenętres incurvées laissant pénétrer la lumičre du jour offrent des panoramas sur l'aéroport, tandis que le célčbre mur végétal SkyTeam’s – une création botanique présente dans tous les salons – ajoute une note naturelle accueillante.
- Le Wi-Fi gratuit, un espace Affaires avec des ordinateurs et des prises électriques réparties dans l'ensemble du salon
- Des douches équipées de serviettes et d'articles de toilette pour se rafraichir avant le vol
- Un espace de tranquillité avec salle télé séparée, une zone de relaxation et une salle VIP pour plus d'intimité
Ŕ l'aéroport de Beijing (PEK), l'ensemble des transporteurs SkyTeam opčrent ŕ partir du Terminal 2, ŕ l'exception de Alitalia (AZ) et China Airlines (CI) qui oprčrent ŕ partir du Terminal 3.
Notez par ailleurs que le salon ne sera pas utilisé par Garuda (GA), Aeroflot (SU) et Vietnam Airlines (VN), qui opčrent ŕ partir du Terminal 2.
May 3, 2017, 3:02 pm
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New contract lounge in ORY W hall 1
Our friend Olivedel has kindly indicated me that a new contract lounge is now available for AF/A5 pax in Orly West hall 1. It is a 289 m2 lounge located at the lower level of hall 1 (so close to the bus gates of hall 1). It is called Premium Traveller. This lounge exists since last november, but the agreement with AF/A5 is new. This lounge is also accessible to IB/Vueling/TP pax and there is a possibility of paid access for any pax for €36.
Thank you to Olivedel for the information.
http://tylerbirth.boardingarea.com/n...-a-orly-ouest/
EDIT 09/2022 : this lounge is not accessible for free when flying on AF-marketed flights leaving from ORY 1 (gates A). Example of AF-marketed flights on Amelia(8R)-operated flights (BVE, RDZ, CFE)
Thank you to Olivedel for the information.
http://tylerbirth.boardingarea.com/n...-a-orly-ouest/
EDIT 09/2022 : this lounge is not accessible for free when flying on AF-marketed flights leaving from ORY 1 (gates A). Example of AF-marketed flights on Amelia(8R)-operated flights (BVE, RDZ, CFE)
Last edited by Goldorak; Sep 4, 2022 at 3:37 pm
May 4, 2017, 4:30 pm
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Our friend Olivedel has kindly indicated me that a new contract lounge is now available for AF/A5
pax in Orly West hall 1. It is a 289 m2 lounge located ŕ the lower level of hall 1 (so close to the AF bus gates of hall 1). It is called Premium Traveller. This lounge exists since last november, but the agreement with AF/A5 is new. This lounge is also accessible to IB/Vueling/TP pax and there is a possibility of paid access for any pax for €36.
Thank you to Olivedel for the information.
http://tylerbirth.boardingarea.com/n...-a-orly-ouest/
pax in Orly West hall 1. It is a 289 m2 lounge located ŕ the lower level of hall 1 (so close to the AF bus gates of hall 1). It is called Premium Traveller. This lounge exists since last november, but the agreement with AF/A5 is new. This lounge is also accessible to IB/Vueling/TP pax and there is a possibility of paid access for any pax for €36.
Thank you to Olivedel for the information.
http://tylerbirth.boardingarea.com/n...-a-orly-ouest/
Also i flew out of Hall 4 this evening and on my way to the far away 40G & 40H gates (what used to be the Hall 3 Schengen gates) i noticed that the space that used to be the old AF lounge is being repurposed as a contract lounge under the name of Alyzia Lounge (if im not wrong, Alyzia is the ground service provider for U2?) and has a "opening soon" sign on the door.
I don't know if AF intends to go into an agreement with this lounge or move out their last remaining A5/XK flights out of Hall 4 but this would mean all of Orly Ouest would now have lounges
May 5, 2017, 12:54 am
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Please excuse my ignorance as this most likely have been discussed multiple times, but I need to shout it out: the AF J lounge at ORD is probably the worst I have been to so far (even compared to AA's flagship lounges in the US).
Seemed like the lounge was used to park PAX that could not move by themselves (ie. wheeled in by airport staff) and by a holy miracle picked from the blue sky, there was no problem in running up and down to the food counter to then fill their carry on's with the newly picked food. I have absolutely NOTHING against mobility impaired people but I just found it odd to "park" all in the lounge.
Also, a premium lounge (as this is offered by AF in this case as I believe it's shared with other airlines - in fact it looked like it had old AF lounge furnishing) with no "private" toilets is a big minus IMO. The public restrooms were so unbelievably disgusting that I decided not to go before getting on the plane heading back to Europe 2 hours later
This said, the food selection was actually pretty good...
Seemed like the lounge was used to park PAX that could not move by themselves (ie. wheeled in by airport staff) and by a holy miracle picked from the blue sky, there was no problem in running up and down to the food counter to then fill their carry on's with the newly picked food. I have absolutely NOTHING against mobility impaired people but I just found it odd to "park" all in the lounge.
Also, a premium lounge (as this is offered by AF in this case as I believe it's shared with other airlines - in fact it looked like it had old AF lounge furnishing) with no "private" toilets is a big minus IMO. The public restrooms were so unbelievably disgusting that I decided not to go before getting on the plane heading back to Europe 2 hours later
This said, the food selection was actually pretty good...
Last edited by Cupart; May 5, 2017 at 3:34 am
May 5, 2017, 12:42 pm
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Please excuse my ignorance as this most likely have been discussed multiple times, but I need to shout it out: the AF J lounge at ORD is probably the worst I have been to so far (even compared to AA's flagship lounges in the US).
Seemed like the lounge was used to park PAX that could not move by themselves (ie. wheeled in by airport staff) and by a holy miracle picked from the blue sky, there was no problem in running up and down to the food counter to then fill their carry on's with the newly picked food. I have absolutely NOTHING against mobility impaired people but I just found it odd to "park" all in the lounge.
Also, a premium lounge (as this is offered by AF in this case as I believe it's shared with other airlines - in fact it looked like it had old AF lounge furnishing) with no "private" toilets is a big minus IMO. The public restrooms were so unbelievably disgusting that I decided not to go before getting on the plane heading back to Europe 2 hours later
This said, the food selection was actually pretty good...
Seemed like the lounge was used to park PAX that could not move by themselves (ie. wheeled in by airport staff) and by a holy miracle picked from the blue sky, there was no problem in running up and down to the food counter to then fill their carry on's with the newly picked food. I have absolutely NOTHING against mobility impaired people but I just found it odd to "park" all in the lounge.
Also, a premium lounge (as this is offered by AF in this case as I believe it's shared with other airlines - in fact it looked like it had old AF lounge furnishing) with no "private" toilets is a big minus IMO. The public restrooms were so unbelievably disgusting that I decided not to go before getting on the plane heading back to Europe 2 hours later
This said, the food selection was actually pretty good...
well...you can be sure that the pax in wheelchairs had lounge access because flying J or being Elite+. And in the US airports, you often have the feeling that half of the pax are mobility impaired (noticed the number of wheelchairs waiting in the jetway when disembarking ?). And I can tell you that a significant number of people asking for a wheelchair assistance in airports are just cheating to have expedited formalities (they may have minor disabilities but perfectly able to walk by themselves).
May 6, 2017, 3:04 am
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Paris CDG - Terminal 2G Air France lounge
Name of the lounge : Paris CDG 2G Air France lounge
A very nice lounge, long awaited to replace the dump place that they used previously. Congratulations to AF for such a nice achievement ^ T2G is now a place where we can go
Location : upstairs after security, access from the main waiting room (behind you when you are on the escalator coming from security)
Opening Hours : from 1st to last flight (the terminal is all AF + LG)
Entry requirements : FB Gold, Platinum, Club 2000, Skyteam Elite Plus
The Ultimate corner
Food offer : see pictures below. I was outside meal times but was enough to feed me (cold cuts, cheese, salted tarts, cakes, etc). I know that there’s more food options at meal times. Soon (from end may) there will be a kind of bakery inside the lounge with fresh bread, French pastries
Drinks offer : usual soft drinks and liquors and…Champagne !! I was very suprised to see Champagne in a Schengen lounge
Services
Wifi: Yes
Showers: Yes
Toilets: Yes
Quiet zone: No
Loungers/sleep area: No but there are sofas
Business area: No
Spa: No
TV area: not a TV area, but there are TVs in the lounge
Passengers are called: No
Information screen: Yes
Newspapers: Yes
Other information
Number of seats: about 100
Level of noise: low (but the lounge was virtually empty when I was there, filling up slowly). I heard that it is often full at peak hours
Design: very fresh and modern as you can see on the pictures. Similar style as the new ORY hall 2 lounge
View: Yes
Multi floors: No
Terrace: No
Smoking area: No
Direct boarding: No
A very nice lounge, long awaited to replace the dump place that they used previously. Congratulations to AF for such a nice achievement ^ T2G is now a place where we can go
Location : upstairs after security, access from the main waiting room (behind you when you are on the escalator coming from security)
Opening Hours : from 1st to last flight (the terminal is all AF + LG)
Entry requirements : FB Gold, Platinum, Club 2000, Skyteam Elite Plus
The Ultimate corner
Food offer : see pictures below. I was outside meal times but was enough to feed me (cold cuts, cheese, salted tarts, cakes, etc). I know that there’s more food options at meal times. Soon (from end may) there will be a kind of bakery inside the lounge with fresh bread, French pastries
Drinks offer : usual soft drinks and liquors and…Champagne !! I was very suprised to see Champagne in a Schengen lounge
Services
Wifi: Yes
Showers: Yes
Toilets: Yes
Quiet zone: No
Loungers/sleep area: No but there are sofas
Business area: No
Spa: No
TV area: not a TV area, but there are TVs in the lounge
Passengers are called: No
Information screen: Yes
Newspapers: Yes
Other information
Number of seats: about 100
Level of noise: low (but the lounge was virtually empty when I was there, filling up slowly). I heard that it is often full at peak hours
Design: very fresh and modern as you can see on the pictures. Similar style as the new ORY hall 2 lounge
View: Yes
Multi floors: No
Terrace: No
Smoking area: No
Direct boarding: No