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Goldorak Jul 18, 2016 1:27 am


Originally Posted by sebach (Post 26929629)
Actually, as the 2f2 will be closed in August, you'll use the one in 2f1 even if you're on the other pier.

Correct. I missed the August information in OP's question.

Leadership Jul 30, 2016 12:14 pm

I had the chance to experience the recently (soft) opened Air France HOP! Lounge at Orly West Hall 2/Navette:

Pictures and full story in french:
http://flight-report.com/en/report/1...s-ORY-Nice-NCE

You may wish to update the wiki, afaik it has been reopened last Thursday.

Goldorak Jul 30, 2016 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by Leadership (Post 26990695)
I had the chance to experience the recently (soft) opened Air France HOP! Lounge at Orly West Hall 2/Navette:

Pictures and full story in french:
http://flight-report.com/en/report/1...s-ORY-Nice-NCE

You may wish to update the wiki, afaik it has been reopened last Thursday.

Thank you. Looks much nicer than the crappy Patio ^
Wiki updated.

Goldorak Jul 30, 2016 6:58 pm

Update on BOS AF lounge
 
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Posting from BOS lounge :mad:
Look at the picture and the number of airlines now using it + pass holders :eek:

I understand the need to increase revenues, but this is wayyy too much as most of those airlines have their flights at the same time as the AF ones. As a result, the lounge is hyper crowded, very noisy, the staff is constantly adding new food and drinks and everything dissappear in 2 minutes. Infants and young kids crying everywhere (don't get me wrong I love kids, but tonight in this lounge this is too much :( ).
And about pass holders, what is "Dragon Pass" ? Never heard about that. Is it to pass the barrier of the lounge Dragon ? :D
During my last visit in this lounge, it was just shared with AZ and Icelandair and that was more than enough.

Goldorak Aug 10, 2016 2:58 pm

LIS Terminal 1 – ANA lounge
 
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Name of the lounge : LIS Terminal 1 – ANA lounge

This 900m2 lounge is open since June 2015. What an improvement compared to previous contract lounge used by AF/KL !

Location : Airside - after Security Checks, the lounge is located at Praça Lisboa ("Lisbon Square") upstairs (escalator). Note that, due to the configuration of the terminal (no segregation of arriving and departing pax), this lounge can be accessed on arrival as a paid access (for a shower for instance – see price below)

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Opening Hours : 5 am to 11 pm. CLOSED on 24 & 25/12

Entry requirements : Usual AF/KL requirements. Possibility of a paid access : adult 25 Euros, children 15 Euros, shower 15,45 Euros. Accessible also with Priority Pass

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Food offer : pastries, sandwiches (not too bad compared to other lounges), fruits, snacks

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Drinks offer : large selection of soft drinks, water, Nespresso coffee, several wines including a sparkling wine, and of course port wine.

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Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: yes
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: no
Loungers/sleep area: yes
Business area: yes (see picture below, sponsored by HP)
Spa: no
TV area: yes
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes (large selection of foreign ones)

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Other information
Number of seats: about 200 ( ?)
Level of noise: medium
Design: very modern
View: yes
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: yes (see picture below)
Direct boarding: no

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Goldorak Aug 10, 2016 3:47 pm

ARN T2 - Aurora Menzies lounge
 
Name of the lounge : ARN T2 - Aurora Menzies lounge

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This was my 2nd vsit in this contract lounge. I remember i was not very enthusiastic about it the 1st time, but this one was even worse. A total scandal :mad:. I arrived about 1.5 hrs before boarding and every single place was full of dirty plates, glasses and leftover food/drnks. The staff was just starting to collect all this when I arrived and it took them a while to do it and, obviously, it had not been done for a long time.:td::td::td:

Location : facing gate 67, go upstairs, turn left and cross the restaurant (yes, it can be confusing when you arrive upstairs as it is not obvious to guess that you have to cross a restaurant to arrive to the lounge).

Opening Hours : 5:15 am to 9 pm

Entry requirements : usual AF/KL requirements.

I precise that the pictures below were taken after the (long) cleaning process !

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Food offer : see text & pics below

Drinks offer : see text & pics below

After looking for not-too-dirty place to seat, if you want to eat or drink something, then another interesting moment starts…:rolleyes:
Nothing to eat except a few remaining (non-appealing) slices of ham and cheese (all stands and shelves were totally empty :eek: ).

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Desperately so empty...

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To drink something, your 1st battle is to find a glass. There were none clean during almost my entire time in the lounge :mad:. I finally found one but…water…where is water ? No bottle. I asked and they showed me this (just a discrete sign in Swedish…) to have tap water…:rolleyes:

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You want wine ? Here it is (see pic below :eek:) and even if you are not discouraged to the liquid you expect from this, don’t worry as it was empty and remained empty during my entire stay. So I sticked to tap water…:D

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They bring a cheese tray, but…too bad… it was just minutes before my boarding

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Hopefully, my flight was in dinner time and I was in J, so I was expecting a good tray on-board.

Services
Wifi: Yes
Showers: don’t know but I would say no
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: no
Loungers/sleep area: yes
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: no
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes

Other information
Number of seats: about 100 ( ?)
Level of noise: low
Design: different styles of seating/furnitures. I’m not a big fan personally.
View: no
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no

So a pathetic experience. This is the only lounge in this terminal, so airlines have unfortunately no choice. I hope AF/KL do not pay too much for this crap. I have sent a complaint to AF, but 1.5 months after, I am still awaiting a response from them.

TrojanTraveler Aug 11, 2016 6:28 am

I spend quite a bit of time in the ARN T2 lounge and (with a huge exception), I like this lounge. When I am there it's nearly always quiet, no problem getting seating, etc. That said, as you point out, the catering leaves much to be desired.

Especially compared to the crappy US lounges in which I spend much time, this lounge is much more civilized and comfortable. Unless you want to eat and drink :)

delanotre Aug 14, 2016 7:42 am

New private area for La Première customers, at Geneva airport
 
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And a private car to and from GVA airport around 190 km!
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San Gottardo Aug 14, 2016 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 27062260)
And a private car to and from GVA airport around 190 km!
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Oh that one. Seen it when I passed through Geneva last week.

There is in fact nothing special about it. Just a cordoned-off area with some lounge chairs, to avoid that P customers have to fight for a seat with common mortals.

Nothing comparable to the First lounge of LX just 30 meters down the hallway (of course the official way from one to the other is much further), or the P lounge in Paris. And obviously a stark contrast if the CDG flight the passengers from the VIP area are then using is an A318 with the NEO cabin, before things dramatically improve again with the P experience in CDG.

delanotre Aug 15, 2016 4:58 am

IMHO, the private car to and from GVA is a must for all around leman lake customers with a P/F fare paid in Switzerland.
We wait for that service in Paris.

San Gottardo Aug 15, 2016 10:13 am


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 27066222)
IMHO, the private car to and from GVA is a must for all around leman lake customers with a P/F fare paid in Switzerland.
We wait for that service in Paris.

Agreed, would be great to have it in Paris!

Having said that, many people (including me and many that I know) use the car service on arrival, but never on departure. The times where the airlines want to pick you up from your home or office are ridiculously early, for instance with EK from downtown Geneva it's 3.5 hours before departure and I would assume Air France does something similar. Same in Paris (or even more, don't remember). When I go on my own I leave downtown one hour before when I don't have luggage (99.9% of my travel, even for longhaul), which is perfectly sufficient. Add 20-30 minutes when having to check in luggage. What do the airlines want us to do during all that time at the airport, watch the paint dry on the walls?

chrisny2 Aug 15, 2016 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 26992029)
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And about pass holders, what is "Dragon Pass" ? Never heard about that. Is it to pass the barrier of the lounge Dragon ? :D ...

http://en.dragonpass.com.cn/services/guibinshi :-) Looks sort of like a Chinese version of Priority Pass.

Goldorak Aug 15, 2016 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by chrisny2 (Post 27070057)
http://en.dragonpass.com.cn/services/guibinshi :-) Looks sort of like a Chinese version of Priority Pass.

Thank you !

sfvoyage Sep 1, 2016 5:34 pm

transfer at CDG
 
I'm flying SFO-CDG-LIS, arriving in Terminal 2E and departing in 2F. I suppose I can use one of the AF lounges in 2E instead of the temporary and supposedly crowded one in 2F, right?

Goldorak Sep 1, 2016 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by sfvoyage (Post 27153379)
I'm flying SFO-CDG-LIS, arriving in Terminal 2E and departing in 2F. I suppose I can use one of the AF lounges in 2E instead of the temporary and supposedly crowded one in 2F, right?

No. Only in your departure terminal.
I don't know when your flight is, but the 2F2 lounge is supposed to reopen on Monday.


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