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carnarvon May 28, 2016 6:25 am


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 26693565)
I believe the classical ones : flying J or being FB gold/plat.

There is indeed no reason to believe it could be any different.

Have been to this lounge on numerous occasions when flying on AF (code share) flights and accessed as Plat.

NB : If the works are finished, the access should now be air-side which is a bonus compared to the old configuration when one always had to allow extra time for security after leaving the lounge.

The only downside is when arriving very early (due to long TGV Air connection for example), then check in is not open and lounge can therefore cannot be accessed.

Goldorak Jun 12, 2016 1:07 pm

Canton / Guangzhou (CAN) China Southern Premium Class lounge
 
Name of the lounge : CAN - China Southern Premium Class lounge

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7596/2...d87d1406_z.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7369/2...5e60da10_z.jpg

This lounge is divided in 2 distinct parts. If you fly CZ metal, you go left at the lounge check-in desk. If you fly AF metal, you turn right. Having been to both parts, the « left part » (flying CZ metal) is much better, even if the « right » part is very acceptable, especially knowing how poor lounges are usually in mainland China. For lounges (and other reasons), I would choose CAN any time for connecting in China compared to PVG.

Location : immediately on the right when you have passed the international transit check-point

Opening Hours

Entry requirements : usual Skyteam requirements

Food offer : large (and good) choice on the « left side », nothing fantastic on the « right side ». Warm and cold options available on both sub-lounges but more choice (and better) on CZ side. See pictures below.

Drinks offer : soft drinks, wines (not goos), water, etc

Services
Wifi: yes but works not well.
Showers: yes
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: not sure
Loungers/sleep area: yes, on CZ side
Business area: area with computers
Spa: no
TV area: yes
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes (Chinese only of course…)

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7364/2...972d0610_z.jpg

Other information
Number of seats: always hard to say, but I’d say about 150 on CZ side and 80 on the « right side »
Level of noise: medium
Design: modern, nice in both lounges but still nicer on CZ side in my opinion. See pictures below.
View: yes
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: unknown
Direct boarding: no

Pictures of the « left (CZ) side »

https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7102/2...40deb847_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7402/2...ef531ffe_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7089/2...ccef7e9b_z.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7433/2...5e26e908_z.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7737/2...1740c629_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7404/2...6d35b552_z.jpg

Pictures of the « right (partners) side »

https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1455/2...e27006a9_z.jpg

https://c8.staticflickr.com/2/1478/2...25a853fe_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1556/2...f31a6179_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1503/2...85a00392_z.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/2/1456/2...4b2206ab_z.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/2/1577/2...22c33741_z.jpg

https://c4.staticflickr.com/2/1608/2...67e5ef4c_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1688/2...6590d446_z.jpg

https://c5.staticflickr.com/2/1587/2...1d820c94_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1604/2...8e6ff63a_z.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/2/1450/2...93d8c464_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1670/2...136d345c_z.jpg

Goldorak Jun 12, 2016 1:15 pm

Rio de Janeiro Galeao Tom Jobim (GIG) - AF lounge
 
Name of the lounge : GIG – AF lounge

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7091/2...b2d4c02c_z.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7497/2...fdb06698_z.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7063/2...e7c697b6_z.jpg

Location : upstairs from the boarding lounge

Opening Hours : 13:00-21:30 on Mon/Wed/Sat/Sunday (the days with 2 AF flights) ; 13:00 – 18:00 on Tues/Thurs/Friday (the days with one AF flight)

Entry requirements : usual AF/Skyteam requirements

Food offer : very limited : snacks, a few (bad) sandwiches

Drinks offer : soft drinks, juices, water, wines, Champagne

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7442/2...7610bff0_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7504/2...577407b7_z.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7219/2...802b39ef_z.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7454/2...12a1dc5a_z.jpg

Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: unknown
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: no
Loungers/sleep area: no
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: no
Passengers are called: yes
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes (good choice)

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7335/2...d5016b85_z.jpg

Other information
Number of seats: quite small. It gets very crowded rapidly. I would say about 60 seats
Level of noise: low
Design: typical AF lounge style but in a dated room, so overall not nice
View: yes

View before the storm

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7248/2...56396c64_z.jpg

View during the storm (with an helicopter bonus !)

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7348/2...68f2311f_z.jpg

View after the storm

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7396/2...6f53ffec_z.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7583/2...a29ff53f_z.jpg

Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no

Overall, a rather poor lounge in a very poor terminal.

Goldorak Jun 12, 2016 1:33 pm

Milan Linate (LIN) - AZ Manzoni lounge
 
Name of the lounge : LIN - AZ Manzoni lounge

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7750/2...a0cc023c_z.jpg

Location : upstairs after the duty free area

Opening Hours : unknown, but as this an important AZ station, we can guess it is open all day.

Entry requirements : usual Skyteam rules

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7198/2...3b24721b_z.jpg

Food offer : very limited, very poor (really bad). A shame for an important AZ station and in a country where the food is excellent. Obviously, EY has not influenced yet that part of AZoperations.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7425/2...20e392fe_z.jpg

Drinks offer : soft drinks, water, wines, prosecco. There is a bar with an attendant.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7757/2...2e5ab082_z.jpg

Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: no
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: no
Loungers/sleep area: no
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: no
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes

Other information
Number of seats: about 60
Level of noise: low
Design: see pictures

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7139/2...5ca9a3e3_z.jpg

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7189/2...e37b1dc3_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7455/2...088cdae6_z.jpg

View: yes

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7289/2...b4f0e597_z.jpg

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7766/2...7e6534a2_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7762/2...b5a74af3_z.jpg

Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no

Goldorak Jun 12, 2016 1:47 pm

Hambourg (HAM) - Airport lounge
 
Name of the lounge : HAM - Airport lounge

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7525/2...d37bf1f5_z.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7346/2...912e5d29_z.jpg

Location : upstairs after the main security check-point

Opening Hours : 5 15 to 21:00

Entry requirements : AF J pax and FB Gold/Plat

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7253/2...8cd0a435_z.jpg

Food offer : very limited and poor (snacks, fruits, sausages, haribo sweets !)

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7374/2...ba35bd2b_z.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7424/2...612e7525_z.jpg

Drinks offer : beer, soft drinks, juices, water, wines (not good)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7337/2...7177497d_z.jpg

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7591/2...758bc415_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7311/2...294141e3_z.jpg

Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: yes
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: no
Loungers/sleep area: no
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: no
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: yes (large selection of German and foreign newspapers and magazines)

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7410/2...d499419c_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7221/2...ef2ed4d6_z.jpg

Other information
Number of seats: about 80
Level of noise: low
Design: see pictures

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7270/2...0e2201e9_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7379/2...51eb699d_z.jpg

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7617/2...05629481_z.jpg

View: limited
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no

C010T3 Jun 17, 2016 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 26767884)
Name of the lounge : GIG – AF lounge

It's great that your took pictures, since it is now closed, because AF was forced to change terminals.

Goldorak Jun 18, 2016 2:19 am


Originally Posted by C010T3 (Post 26794993)
It's great that your took pictures, since it is now closed, because AF was forced to change terminals.

I just saw your post in the KL forum about the fact that AF lounge has just closed and that they now use the GOL VIP lounge. But I'm confused about your terminal change information : so they're not anymore in T1 ? And GOL was also in T1 unless I'm mistaken ?
GIG website still list them in T1

Goldorak Jun 18, 2016 2:35 am

Does anyone has information on the re-opening of AF lounge in ORY hall 3 ?

C010T3 Jun 18, 2016 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 26795437)
I just saw your post in the KL forum about the fact that AF lounge has just closed and that they now use the GOL VIP lounge. But I'm confused about your terminal change information : so they're not anymore in T1 ? And GOL was also in T1 unless I'm mistaken ?
GIG website still list them in T1

Gol's lounge at T2 is an inheritance from VARIG. Gol never operated at T2.
Yes, it never made sense that they continued operating it, but they did.
Gol will move to T2 by next year, so it now makes sense that they are opening a new lounge.

Goldorak Jun 19, 2016 3:01 am


Originally Posted by C010T3 (Post 26797688)
Gol's lounge at T2 is an inheritance from VARIG. Gol never operated at T2.
Yes, it never made sense that they continued operating it, but they did.
Gol will move to T2 by next year, so it now makes sense that they are opening a new lounge.

Sorry to insist, but are AF/KL now based in T2 ?

Andy49 Jun 20, 2016 1:40 am


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 26799043)
Sorry to insist, but are AF/KL now based in T2 ?

I had no idea that there had been a change of terminal but I just looked at my booking for the beginning of July and sure enough it says T2

https://s5.postimg.cc/w4595mhzb/GIG_T2.jpg

loimu Jun 20, 2016 6:45 am

LUX lounge access
 
I'm an AZ Elite Plus member and flown LUX-CDG, ticketed by AF, operated by Luxair three times now. I have had varying success with lounge access. Twice I have been denied access and once they let me in with my Alitalia FF card. The explanations have also varied, e.g. had I been on a KLM ticket instead of Air France, they would have let me in. Had I been on a "platinum" level with Alitalia, they would have let me in, had I flown with an AZ coded ticket, they would have let me in etc.

LUX lounge is operated by Luxair but it's listed in the Skyteam online lounge finder. I asked Luxair for explanation for this varying practice and for a confirmation on the access policy. The answer I got was that KLM indeed pays the fee for all Elite Plus level passengers to be let in to the lounge but AF has agreed to pay the entrance to their own elites only, which is why my access has been denied. I think such a practice is strange and surprising and against the AF and Skyteam marketing. Or is this normal?

Ditto Jun 20, 2016 7:04 am


Originally Posted by loimu (Post 26803778)
I'm an AZ Elite Plus member and flown LUX-CDG, ticketed by AF, operated by Luxair three times now. I have had varying success with lounge access. Twice I have been denied access and once they let me in with my Alitalia FF card. The explanations have also varied, e.g. had I been on a KLM ticket instead of Air France, they would have let me in. Had I been on a "platinum" level with Alitalia, they would have let me in, had I flown with an AZ coded ticket, they would have let me in etc.

LUX lounge is operated by Luxair but it's listed in the Skyteam online lounge finder. I asked Luxair for explanation for this varying practice and for a confirmation on the access policy. The answer I got was that KLM indeed pays the fee for all Elite Plus level passengers to be let in to the lounge but AF has agreed to pay the entrance to their own elites only, which is why my access has been denied. I think such a practice is strange and surprising and against the AF and Skyteam marketing. Or is this normal?

Actually, according to AZ policy, you are only allowed access to non AZ/ST lounges when flying on an AZ flight.

http://beta.alitalia.com/il_en/Image...tcm29-1297.pdf

loimu Jun 20, 2016 7:21 am


Originally Posted by Ditto (Post 26803845)
Actually, according to AZ policy, you are only allowed access to non AZ/ST lounges when flying on an AZ flight.

http://beta.alitalia.com/il_en/Image...tcm29-1297.pdf

Thanks Ditto - that came as a surprise but indeed answers my question perfectly.

Goldorak Jun 20, 2016 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by Andy49 (Post 26803113)
I had no idea that there had been a change of terminal but I just looked at my booking for the beginning of July and sure enough it says T2

Thank you Andy49. GIG website still mentions T1 :rolleyes: :td:


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